Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Dave, > I'm sad to hear all this. The Cathedral was/is a perfect anchor to > that 'square' in city center. $100 million is a lot of cost per > square foot. I've got to believe you could build a modern replica for > a lot less. Christchurch will

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > (The TV images from the Tour de France are so spectacular.) A friend of mine watches it just for the scenery and the commentary. She couldn't care less about the cycling :) I need to get some cash together and set up a satellite receiver to pi

Re: OT: All done

On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Congratulations!! Will be looking for some pix from the prof, too. Thanks :) Yep I'll post some pics eventually. The film's away being developed, so to speak. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome Alban Your introduction to Pentax is similar to mine. My father also had an MX and many lenses and I was able to borrow them. Looking forward to seeing your work. You certainly live in an inspirational place. Chris On 2 March 2012 20:57, alban bernard wrote: > Hi PDMLers, > > I didn't

Re: OT: All done

Congratulations!! Will be looking for some pix from the prof, too. -p On 3/3/2012 12:27 AM, David Mann wrote: Just a quick snapshot. I'm not satisfied with exposure or DOF but meh, it was a quick grab shot and we hired a real photographer for the proper photos. http://www.multi.net.nz/rings

OT: All done

Just a quick snapshot. I'm not satisfied with exposure or DOF but meh, it was a quick grab shot and we hired a real photographer for the proper photos. http://www.multi.net.nz/rings/ The day went very well. There's a huge storm passing across the North Island today (nothing like what's happen

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

On 3/2/2012 10:15 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Well, then I guess that would be impossible inasmuch as I'm only 29. P/S: On Jupiter. -- Walt On 3/2/2012 10:11 PM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) wrote: For one, you'd have about 30 years more practce under your belt. Walt Gilbert w

Re: Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/2/2012

On 3/2/2012 10:43 PM, Tim Bray wrote: A very good set. And... Thank you. :-) On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: It was nearly 80 degrees here today I hate you -T I don't blame you, considering how much of the day I frittered away indoors. I actually hated myself once I

Re: Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/2/2012

A very good set. And... On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > It was nearly 80 degrees here today I hate you -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 3/2/2012

Hi all, It was nearly 80 degrees here today, and after frittering away the bulk of the afternoon, my conscience finally grabbed me by the lapels and proceeded to throttle me to within an inch of my life. So, I stepped out and took a few photos with the K100D and the K-50/1.4. I still love that

Re: OT PESO - Chris

Nice - I like that David... Both the black and white and the color shot... the COlor looks like a hand tinted deal and that's jsut as retro as the BW ann On 3/2/2012 11:33, David Savage wrote: G'day All, Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate& thought I'd share one of my f

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

From: David Mann On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters wrote: I'm not sure that Councillor Keown's comments are at all helpful. Our esteemed city councillors are about the biggest bunch of squabbling brats you could encounter. We should send them to Wellington or Canberra, they'd fit ri

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Well, then I guess that would be impossible inasmuch as I'm only 29. On 3/2/2012 10:11 PM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) wrote: For one, you'd have about 30 years more practce under your belt. Walt Gilbert wrote: It does have a wonderful feel to it compared to trying to manual

Re: PESO: Study in light and shadow

It's maybe a little too smooth to be noir, but very pleasing to the eye. -T On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Today was the preliminary day of the Professional Photographers of North > Carolina convention, opening with optional workshops. I signed up for the > "Film Noir" work

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

For one, you'd have about 30 years more practce under your belt. Walt Gilbert wrote: >It does have a wonderful feel to it compared to trying to manually >focus >the kit lenses that came with my K-x. The older lenses make me wish I'd > >taken up photography a long time ago. I can't help wonder

RE: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

From: David Mann Just announced this afternoon, a sad and already controversial decision over our city's landmark building. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6509814/Christ-Church-Cathedral-to-be-pulled-down Cheers, Dave Sad, but I hope they will be able to rebuild with something just as bea

PESO: Study in light and shadow

Today was the preliminary day of the Professional Photographers of North Carolina convention, opening with optional workshops. I signed up for the "Film Noir" workshop. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/6948061455/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/li

Re: Semi-OT: How motorsports photography is done

On 2012-03-02 21:04, Larry Colen wrote: http://motomatters.com/blog/2012/02/16/photographer_s_blog_motogp_story_the_cat.html Thanks for posting it. Yep, excellent article. It reminds me of how when it rains when we're racing Sears Point we would all head up to turn 2 to watch the start of

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

It does have a wonderful feel to it compared to trying to manually focus the kit lenses that came with my K-x. The older lenses make me wish I'd taken up photography a long time ago. I can't help wondering how much better I'd be as a photographer if I had started when those lenses were still be

Re: OT Red underscore lines

On 2012-03-01 15:19, John Sessoms wrote: How is in-line spell check supposed to know what word you meant to use when you don't? I don't know, but my girlfriend seems to always know, usually to my detriment. :-) -- Doug "Lefty" Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook "NutDriv

Re: PESO - Spring is on the Way

On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > That is a beautiful shot, George! The lighting and textures, in particular, > are great. I agree. That is exactly why I tend to bracket photos in awkward lighting, for when I get around to learning and using HDR, in the hopes of results exactly

Re: PESO - Spring is on the Way

That is a beautiful shot, George!  The lighting and textures, in particular, are great. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: George Sinos To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: PESO - Spring is on the Way It's gettin

Re: Semi-OT: How motorsports photography is done

On 3/2/2012 5:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: No Pentax content here but motorsports pro shooter Scott Jones describes the making of one photograph. Pretty interesting: http://motomatters.com/blog/2012/02/16/photographer_s_blog_motogp_story_the_cat.html Thanks for posting it. It reminds me of how

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

on 3/2/12 1:57 PMalban bernard wrote I'm Alban Bernard, I'm French and a pentaxian since my father offered me his MX and a couple of lenses on one of my early christmas (Pentax 50mm f/1.7 and a Sigma 28mm f/2.8 Macro as a bonus). Shooting films were a bit expensive for me at that time and so I

Semi-OT: How motorsports photography is done

No Pentax content here but motorsports pro shooter Scott Jones describes the making of one photograph. Pretty interesting: http://motomatters.com/blog/2012/02/16/photographer_s_blog_motogp_story_the_cat.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Dis

Re: K-5 Special Edition (with that lens)

On 3/2/2012 1:51 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Brian Walters wrote: http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/03/01/collectors-start-queuing-pentax-k-5-silver-special-edition-announced I thought the new 40mm had elements that projected out the back and might confli

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Bienvenue! -T On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:38 PM, alban bernard wrote: > Yep, I'm from Haute-Loire, Auvergne, near this nice little town: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Puy-en-Velay. Very proud of its history and > all it has to offer to a photographer. > > --- On Fri, 3/2/12, Mark Roberts wro

Re: PESO - Spring is on the Way

Lovely onions -T On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:17 PM, George Sinos wrote: > It's getting warmer. The weather forecast is calling for temps in the > mid-60's in the next few days. One of my neighbors is already working > in his yard cleaning up the winter mess. It won't be long before > people will be

Le masque et le carnaval

...is the subject of my French cinema class this term, so I have put together a collection of my photos on the subject for my co-students, and share it with you. You've seen most of them before, but some are probably new to you. B -- PDML Pentax-Dis

RE: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome - Le Puy-en-Velay is very well-known! I haven't been there yet, but it is high on my list. B > > Yep, I'm from Haute-Loire, Auvergne, near this nice little town: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Puy-en-Velay. Very proud of its history > and all it has to offer to a photographer. > > ---

Re: OT PESO - Chris

On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > On 3 March 2012 00:49, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:33 AM, David Savage wrote: >> >>> G'day All, >>> >>> Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd >>> share one of my first edits: >>> >>>

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome aboard! -Original Message- >From: alban bernard >Subject: Yet another but late newcomer. > >Hi PDMLers, > >I didn't dare to introduce myself earlier before I uploaded my three humble >shots to contribute to the PDML photo annual 2011. > >I'm Alban Bernard, I'm French and a pen

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Alban, Welcome aboard. It is always nice to have voices and images from other countries. France is somewwhere we miss seeing. (The TV images from the Tour de France are so spectacular.) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:57 PM, alban bernard wrote: > Hi PDMLers, > > I didn't dare to intro

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

This lens always remind me how it was difficult to machine some metal parts with micrometric precision during school hands-on sessions. It gives some respect and taste for manufactured objects. Handling a lens with perfectly adjusted but smooth focusing ring is really a joy in itself. It has a s

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome. Looking forward to see some photos of your town. Paul On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:38 PM, alban bernard wrote: > Yep, I'm from Haute-Loire, Auvergne, near this nice little town: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Puy-en-Velay. Very proud of its history and > all it has to offer to a photograph

FS : flash

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200718823094?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 still there - note there is a "make an offer" button - so make me one I can't refuse :-) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE fr

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Bon jour, Alban welcome! looking forward to seeing your stuff - throw us a Peso :-) ann On 3/2/2012 15:57, alban bernard wrote: Hi PDMLers, I didn't dare to introduce myself earlier before I uploaded my three humble shots to contribute to the PDML photo annual 2011. I'm Alban Bernard, I'm

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

:) I'll do my best. --- On Fri, 3/2/12, Bruce Walker wrote: > From: Bruce Walker > Subject: Re: Yet another but late newcomer. > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 10:07 PM > Welcome aboard, Alban. > Congratulations on de-lurking! :) > > Looking forward to any cont

Re: K-5 Special Edition (with that lens)

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/03/01/collectors-start-queuing-pentax-k-5-silver-special-edition-announced > > I thought the new 40mm had elements that projected out the back and might > conflict with the mirror.  Apparently not. T

Re: GESO: Floral Drumbeat

On 3/2/2012 12:34 AM, Tim Bray wrote: I shoot crocuses every year at this time of year, and see no reason to stop. They’re cliches, but *nice* cliches. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/02/26/2012-Crocuses Cliches be damned, I enjoy looking at p

Re: GESO: Floral Drumbeat

Quoting Tim Bray : I shoot crocuses every year at this time of year, and see no reason to stop. They're cliches, but *nice* cliches. That's my story and I'm sticking to it: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/02/26/2012-Crocuses Nice set of images. I like the light and composition

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Yep, I'm from Haute-Loire, Auvergne, near this nice little town: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Puy-en-Velay. Very proud of its history and all it has to offer to a photographer. --- On Fri, 3/2/12, Mark Roberts wrote: > From: Mark Roberts > Subject: Re: Yet another but late newcomer. > To:

K-5 Special Edition (with that lens)

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/03/01/collectors-start-queuing-pentax-k-5-silver-special-edition-announced I thought the new 40mm had elements that projected out the back and might conflict with the mirror. Apparently not. -- Cheers Brian ++ Bri

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Alban, welcome to the madhouse In case you need to know more about PDML, here's the (unofficial) FAQ: http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Quoting alban b

Re: PESO - Spring is on the Way

Nice light touch there, George. I like this shot. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:17 PM, George Sinos wrote: > It's getting warmer. The weather forecast is calling for temps in the > mid-60's in the next few days. One of my neighbors is already working > in his yard cleaning up the winter mess. It won'

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome, Alban! Will be looking for some production from your K200D and plan to check out your annual work. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: alban bernard To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: Yet another but late newcomer. Hi PDMLers, I

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome to the list, Alban! I'm looking forward to seeing submissions from you and hope you'll be able to participate in the discussion more in the future. I've gained an incredible amount of knowledge and inspiration from PDML and I consider joining the list to be the smartest thing I've don

PESO - Spring is on the Way

It's getting warmer. The weather forecast is calling for temps in the mid-60's in the next few days. One of my neighbors is already working in his yard cleaning up the winter mess. It won't be long before people will be out in their gardens planting things like these onions I found in a roadside st

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome Alban! You have a .fr email address so I assume you're in France somewhere. Where in France? I've loved France ever since my first trip there a few years ago. I may be coming back next year some time. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-

Re: Yet another but late newcomer.

Welcome aboard, Alban. Congratulations on de-lurking! :) Looking forward to any contributions, shots or anecdotes, that you have for us. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM, alban bernard wrote: > Hi PDMLers, > > I didn't dare to introduce myself earlier before I uploaded my three humble > shots to

Yet another but late newcomer.

Hi PDMLers, I didn't dare to introduce myself earlier before I uploaded my three humble shots to contribute to the PDML photo annual 2011. I'm Alban Bernard, I'm French and a pentaxian since my father offered me his MX and a couple of lenses on one of my early christmas (Pentax 50mm f/1.7 and a

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

sad news about that, Dave thanks for all the details ann On 3/2/2012 00:30, David Mann wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's so unfortunate. I'm sure that there are architects an engineers in this world that could dvise a plan to save the cathedral. Demolishing it s

Re: OT PESO - Chris

I normally prefer b&w but in this case the high contrast colour wins, I think. ;-) Seriously. Terrific shot. One teensy little thing: I find the light in his eyes a bit distracting. My eyes keep being drawn to that and away from the rest of the photo. Other than that little thing, its as good

Re: PESO: Playin' at the Pool Hall

On 3/1/2012 5:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Shot a few pics at the pool hall last night with the K-5 and DA* 50-135/2.8. This one is f 3.5 @ 1/30th, ISO 10,000. I don't normally like to go beyond ISO 6400, but if exposure is good, noise is tolerable up to 12,800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?

Re: published - New Yorker on line

On 3/2/2012 12:46, steve harley wrote: on 3/1/12 11:42 AMAnn Sanfedele wrote thanks All youse guys! Darren - the nicest thing was that the photo editor contacted me for it having seen it on Wiki and gave me the credit instead of just using it, as happened to Brian. note they are required to

Re: OT PESO - Chris

I normally prefer color, but in this case the high-contrast B&W wins I think. Great shot. -T On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:33 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd > share one of my first edits: > >

Re: OT PESO - Chris

Excellent work Dave. Are you going pro on us? Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:33 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd > share one of my first edits: > >

RE: Playin' at the Pool Hall

Good technically but more important great character studies as well. I love the concentration & intensity in their expressions. Well captured. On 3/1/2012 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Shot a few pics at the pool hall last night with the K-5 and DA* 50-135/2.8. This one is f 3.5 @ 1/30th,

Re: published - New Yorker on line

on 3/1/12 11:42 AMAnn Sanfedele wrote thanks All youse guys! Darren - the nicest thing was that the photo editor contacted me for it having seen it on Wiki and gave me the credit instead of just using it, as happened to Brian. note they are required to give you credit, because of how you licens

Re: OT PESO - Chris

Nicely warmed image, well exposed. I take it that complete inclusion of the hat identifies it as a primary feature. Bust may be cropped a bit short.(?) Jack - Original Message - From: David Savage To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 8:33 AM Subject: OT PESO

Re: OT PESO - Chris

Both are great, David! I think I like the original a little better. It seems to lend a bit more texture -- particularly to the hat. Either way, though, you can't go wrong. -- Walt On 3/2/2012 10:57 AM, David Savage wrote: On 3 March 2012 00:49, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:33 AM,

Re: OT PESO - Chris

Both versions are great, Dave. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > > On 3 March 2012 00:49, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:33 AM, David Savage wrote: > > > >> G'day All, > >> > >> Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd > >> shar

FS : Slide mounts

Availble to the first responder - free - you pay shipping Approximately 150 35mm slide mounts - about 75 Pakon plastic mounts with film loader and about 75 cardboard mounts - mostly Erie Slide Club cropping mounts. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-

Re: OT PESO - Chris

On 3 March 2012 00:49, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:33 AM, David Savage wrote: > >> G'day All, >> >> Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd >> share one of my first edits: >> >> > > That's e

Re: OT PESO - Chris

On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:33 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd > share one of my first edits: > > That's excellent. I'd also love to see it done with "retro" p

OT PESO - Chris

G'day All, Just got back from a retro/noir themed shoot with a mate & thought I'd share one of my first edits: Direct link: Enjoy. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: PESO: Lovely Heather w/ advice solicitation

Thank you much, Frank! If I had to pick a genre to work in, casual portraiture would be it. It's relatively forgiving, and when it works, nothing makes me happier. :) -- Walt On 3/2/2012 8:14 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I agree 100% with Dave's assessment. Beautiful casual portrait.

Re: OT: Something hard to do with a digital camera

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Toine wrote: > I tried that. It doesn't work. You need a Nikon for this one to work.:-) Dave > > Toine > > On 1 March 2012 14:30, David J Brooks wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:28 AM, P. J. Alling >> wrote: >>> On 2/29/2012 10:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >>

Re: Workin on the RR

Thats a very nice shot, Don the flare doesnt detract at all ann On 2/28/2012 15:54, Don Guthrie wrote: This was a photo I was going to submit for last months PUG. The lens flare caused by the zoom with no lens hood bothered me. It bothers me less in BW so here it is. C&C taken in the spirit it

Re: published - New Yorker on line

Dear Crass No - They technically didn't have to because that photo was the one with Matt's profile on Wiki - so it was a courtesy for the gal to contact me and give me the credit line... obviously they liked the shot and she said she would look at my website and "keep me in mind" for future stu

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

Dave, I'm sad to hear all this. The Cathedral was/is a perfect anchor to that 'square' in city center. $100 million is a lot of cost per square foot. I've got to believe you could build a modern replica for a lot less. Christchurch will be filled with modern architecture when you get done. A m

FS Fryday

Pentax MX. Pretty rough, but meter and mechanism work fine. No battery corrosion. Switch behaves properly (no meter display when locked). $50 SMC Pentax-A 50/1.7. Exc. condition, with both caps. $75 SMC Pentax-A 70-210/4. Needs a bunch of set screws tightened. Some dirt in the focus/zoom, s

Re: PESO: Traveler's Lantern

I really like the original a lot. I don't usually go for OTT processing/rendering, but this last version is stunning. At least as stunning as a rusty old lantern will ever be. :-) cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- O

Re: PESO: Lovely Heather w/ advice solicitation

I agree 100% with Dave's assessment. Beautiful casual portrait. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David Parsons Sent: March 1, 2012 3/1/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO

Re: OT: Christchurch Cathedral

On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:40 PM, David Mann wrote: > It's going to be a while, they're talking about building a temporary > Cathedral somewhere. Replying to myself but I saw this set posted via Facebook. There is a handful of interesting photos of the Cathedral being constructed in the late 19th c

RE: published - New Yorker on line

Great stuff - congrats! > > > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/03/a-cult-comedian- > gets-back-in-the-game.html > > just a Scrabble shot... requested when photo editor saw it on Wiki with > Matt Graham's bio there. > > nice, just the same > > ann > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: PESO: A Dog's Life

Thank you, Tim. I do appreciate the kind words and forbearance. :) -- Walt On 3/2/2012 12:21 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Normally, the Internet is for CAT pictures, but we’ll overlook this transgression because it’s a very nice picture -T On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Walking