Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-15 Thread Tomasz Machnik
Adam Maas wrote: > no DSLR can do that sort of metering, > the sensor's reflectivity is not sufficiently predictable. Not predictable? There's just one sensor in a DSLR, fixed in its place, so it seems to be much easier to "predict" it's reflectivity, compared to a film camera, with so many di

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread mike wilson
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, mike wilson wrote: All assuming that you are using the maximum synchronisation speed. Not sure that comes to play (and you mean minimum, no?). It's far longer that the discharge time, so why would it matter? As it's not fixed across cameras,

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread Jens Bladt
et.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. september 2005 17:09 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? The meter in the flash doesn't, with TTL flash the camera uses it's ISO information to

Re: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, mike wilson wrote: All assuming that you are using the maximum synchronisation speed. Not sure that comes to play (and you mean minimum, no?). It's far longer that the discharge time, so why would it matter? As it's not fixed across cameras, I would expect the flashes to

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
dt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. september 2005 12:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: I wonder how the flash actually DOES work, if the light

Re: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/09/14 Wed PM 02:40:11 GMT > To: > Subject: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? > > Well, if the ISO setting on the back doesn't have any effect on the > adjustments in the flash

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: Well, if the ISO setting on the back doesn't have any effect on the adjustments in the flash unit (if it's just a visual memory indication, as suggested by you) the flash meter will not know when to cut off the flash duration, will it? It will always cut

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread Jens Bladt
get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. september 2005 12:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: > I wonder how the flash actually DOES w

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: I wonder how the flash actually DOES work, if the light output is indifferent to the ASA setting? The flash quenches when its sensor is happy. If your lens aperture and distance were correct (indicated by the slider and thus affected by the ISO setting)

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Maas
The problem with Digital is the regular TTL method relied on reflections off the film (It's actually TTL-OTF), with the exception of the Fuji S2 Pro, no DSLR can do that sort of metering, the sensor's reflectivity is not sufficiently predictable. Hence the reliance on preflashes. Actually, both

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
hooting in studio conditions is a different matter - I love it. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. september 2005 00:01 Til: Jens Bladt Emne: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
looks better comming from above. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. september 2005 22:46 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: > Moving th

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jens, I can understand what you are wanting here. For DSLR's everyone has gone to a pre-flash technique for their TTL metering. I prefer regular TTL. When the ambient light is high and the flash is just a fill, the pre-flash doesn't seem to cause too many problems. When the light is lowe

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
adt JB> -Oprindelig meddelelse- JB> Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JB> Sendt: 13. september 2005 22:19 JB> Til: Igor Roshchin JB> Emne: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? JB> It should be noted that when the PZ-1p came out, it had the ability to J

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. september 2005 22:19 Til: Igor Roshchin Emne: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? It should be noted that when the PZ-1p came out, it had the ability to control the flash output/compensation from the body.

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
em.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Igor Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. september 2005 21:43 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:11:17 +0200 > From: "Jens Bladt" &

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: Moving the slider in the back of the AF280T does not have any effect, when working in TTL Mode. I doubt it has an effect in Auto mode either, but I will let the more experienced/knowledgeable people speak. The slider is only an indicator for the apertur

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
gt;> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:11:17 +0200 >> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> I believe you talking to me, Kostas. >> Moving the sli

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
ticed by others than photographers :-) It should do what a reflector screen normally does. But who want's to use a refelction screen at a wedding? Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Igor Roshchin
> > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:11:17 +0200 > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I believe you talking to me, Kostas. > Moving the slider in the back of t

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. september 2005 21:25 Til: PDML Emne: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? I'm not entirely certain why using an external auto-flash sensor would be termed "cheating the flash". I'v

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm not entirely certain why using an external auto-flash sensor would be termed "cheating the flash". I've used electronic flash in my photography with greater or lesser frequency since 1969. Auto-flash control and TTL flash metering are great conveniences for when they do the appropriate

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
This is what I meant by "cheating the flash"... Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. september 2005 18:15 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FT

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
ntax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: > The AF280T, however, will allow you to set the flash unit to a faster speed > than the camera, which makes it possible to cheat the flash unit into giving > slightly to

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another solution is to eschew P-TTL or TTL flash: use an external flash with its own flash sensor. I've used the Sunpak 383 so far, fitted with a Lumiquest Mini-Softbox. It returns excellent results with the *ist DS. I did a photo session for a woman doing costuming workups a week or so a

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 13, 2005, at 11:00, Bruce Dayton wrote: P-TTL has a huge problem with some people. They blink in reaction to the first flash and end up with their eyes either closed or partially closed. It is only some people, but for them, it is a real problem. This has been a huge problem for me w

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jens Bladt wrote: The AF280T, however, will allow you to set the flash unit to a faster speed than the camera, which makes it possible to cheat the flash unit into giving slightly too litle light = this is a fill flash option. What in TTL mode? Using the slider at the back

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
P-TTL has a huge problem with some people. They blink in reaction to the first flash and end up with their eyes either closed or partially closed. It is only some people, but for them, it is a real problem. I shoot weddings regularly with my *istD's. The basic way I work, is to use AF360FGZ's f

RE: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Jens Bladt
: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? Hello. I recently got into digital photography. I bought an Olympus C-8080. Great camera, but the EVF would not work for me to shoot people events such as weddings. Until I purchased this camera I have always used Pentax

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: > >> I am not sure if it was entirely my fault or indeed, a) this flash >> does not work as well with the DS as it does with ZX5n as a fill-in flash; > >Having spoken to a (Nikon) wedding photographer and re

Re: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/09/13 Tue AM 09:14:13 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > I am not sure if it was en

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: I am not sure if it was entirely my fault or indeed, a) this flash does not work as well with the DS as it does with ZX5n as a fill-in flash; Having spoken to a (Nikon) wedding photographer and read this list for a while, TTL flash does not work consi

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-12 Thread Igor Roshchin
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:10:48 -0400 > From: "Frank Knapik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings? > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello. I recently got into digital photography. I bought an Olympus C-8080. >

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-12 Thread pnstenquist
Good advice, Mark. I shot an engagement party a few weeks ago and after considering the options and experimenting a bit, I worked almost exactly as you suggest. I did use autofocus part of the time, but after missing a few shots in the dark, I went full manual. The lighting was a mix of indoor t

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-12 Thread Mark Roberts
On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Frank Knapik wrote: > ... PZ-1p, LX, MX,AF500FTZ,AF280,AF 50/1.4,Af28-105(pz),A24/2.8 and > more. ... does anyone have any wedding experience using an *istD or > DS with the above flashes and lenses. I do realize I will need a > wider lens. Any digital specific

Re: *ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Frank Knapik wrote: ... PZ-1p, LX, MX,AF500FTZ,AF280,AF 50/1.4,Af28-105(pz),A24/2.8 and more. ... does anyone have any wedding experience using an *istD or DS with the above flashes and lenses. I do realize I will need a wider lens. Any digital specific zoom re

*ist D or DS & AF500FTZ for Weddings?

2005-09-12 Thread Frank Knapik
Hello. I recently got into digital photography. I bought an Olympus C-8080. Great camera, but the EVF would not work for me to shoot people events such as weddings. Until I purchased this camera I have always used Pentax equipment. PZ-1p, LX, MX,AF500FTZ,AF280,AF 50/1.4,Af28-105(pz),A24/2.8 and