In a message dated 2/17/2009 11:28:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes:
I enjoy each of you and wish there was a way to get together in a few
months with our PDML Annuals for a big signing party. Maybe at
Christines in Chicago? :-)
Walt
==
I like the ide
Have no idea exactly when, but I think I signed onto the PDML in early
2005.
Seems a long time.
I've been participating/adminning the euro-moto mailing list since 1991.
Godfrey
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I really don't know when or even why I first joined. I believe it was
after 2001 or 2002 when I was still actively shooting weddings. I used
Pentax 645 and ZX-5n cameras, so that must have been the reason.
I remember Roberto B. and we correcponded several times off list. I
recently found him on the
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Fated to be a photographer, with a surname that sounds like a 6x7 shutter...
Mark!
though i've never ever heard a 6x7 shutter. but i think i can work
backwards through the simile... :)
regards, subash
>> Well, in the group shot is a guy Jeff
You mean this group shot?
http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/bruce05.jpg
Damn! You guys looks good.
>
> Well, in the group shot is a guy Jeff Geilenkerchen - never really
> got on the list much - did shoot Pentax, though, Shel Belinkoff, John
> Francis, Me (Bruce Dayton) and Mark Dalal
Fated to be a photographer, with a surname that sounds like a 6x7 shutter...
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> Well, in the group shot is a guy Jeff Geilenkerchen -
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There are group shots and there are GROUP shots - sadly we were the
former.
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Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:59:12 PM, you wrote:
BW> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:38 -0800, "Bruce Dayton"
BW> said:
>> Well, in the group shot is a guy Jeff Geilenkerchen - never really
>> got on
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:38 -0800, "Bruce Dayton"
said:
> Well, in the group shot is a guy Jeff Geilenkerchen - never really
> got on the list much - did shoot Pentax, though, Shel Belinkoff, John
> Francis, Me (Bruce Dayton) and Mark Dalal.
>
Presumably you don't mean this group shot.
ht
Well, in the group shot is a guy Jeff Geilenkerchen - never really
got on the list much - did shoot Pentax, though, Shel Belinkoff, John
Francis, Me (Bruce Dayton) and Mark Dalal.
That was a fun outing - I got the chance to shoot with John's FA*
250-600 beast. Very fun lens!
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2.25 years-
Novemberish 2006.
I joined for an opinion of the K-100D.
Then I bought one with the Christmas promotion of the camera.
Now I want a K-20D, and Katzeye focusing screen...
Dang things are addictive.
Cheers
Mike
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Tomorrow marks 3 weeks for me. And I tell you, things have really gone
down hill since the good old days.
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Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 12:28 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: 11 years (was: 4 years)
10 years sometime this year for me, but I've moved addresses a couple of
times and dropped off the list during l
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:38:56PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember Mark Dalal? I remember he organized the first
> Norcal PDML at Muir Woods - Met John Francis there, among several
> others.
http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/muir.html
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Does anyone remember Mark Dalal?
Yep. Met him at a PDML meeting out Mark Cassino's way quite a while ago..
Don't remember if it was before or after he moved to Ca.
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton"
Subject:
say) since then.
However, I can hardly believe only two messages. More likely three
or four ;-)
Hi Pedro!
Dario
- Original Message - From: "Pedro Oliveira" >
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4
From out of the past...
Joe McAllister (jo...@mist.seattleantioch.edu)
Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:54:44 -0800
>Anybody from this group has comments or experience with Pe=
ntax Shift 28mm f/3.5 lens?
I've had one in my possession for the past few months, and have
enjoyed excercising it on the wate
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
Hi.
My first post was in November, 1997.
My second post is this one... ;-)
Pedro Oliveira
Em 2009/02/15, às 21:11, Dario Bonazza escreveu:
4 eh? It appears I'm 11 yo on this list.
Dario
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On 16/2/09, Pedro Oliveira, discombobulated, unleashed:
>My first post was in November, 1997.
>My second post is this one... ;-)
Mark.
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In a message dated 2/16/2009 2:06:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
oliveirape...@mac.com writes:
Hi.
My first post was in November, 1997.
My second post is this one... ;-)
Pedro Oliveira
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Okay, that has to be a record of some kind. Longest time between delurks.
Heh.
Marnie ak
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:05:39 +, "Pedro Oliveira"
said:
> Hi.
>
> My first post was in November, 1997.
> My second post is this one... ;-)
>
Now, that has to be a record of some sort..
Cheers
Brian
++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://me
ail List"
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: 4 years
I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I
realized
I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
accept my apolog
On Feb 15, 2009, at 19:32 , Stan Halpin wrote:
I have some archived notes from fall of '97 with one Joe McAllister
a prominent participant in lens-quality discussions...
Oh God! I trust I behaved myself, Stan. Mum's the word if the answer
is no...
;-)
Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.co
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
> so I missed all the speculations about a Pentax DSLR, up until joining
> up again late 2006 when I decided to grow old with you guys.
>
> Bong
Gee Bong, you could have gone all day without reminding me of that :-)
Walt
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I've been trying to remember when I came on the list - my best guess
is 1997 sometime - shortly after my son was born. My interest in
photography was peaked then and I got going with my Super Program and
then picked up a ZX-10 and went on from there.
Does anyone remember Mark Dalal? I remember h
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:26:47AM -, Bob W wrote:
>
> Kirkland Ramsay III (Presbyterian) aka Mafud aka somebody Grene used to get
> involved in long email threads with himself, including some flame wars.
I know that was a belief shared by many of the members of the time. I
remain unconvince
In a message dated 2/16/2009 10:39:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
s...@komkon.org writes:
I am sure I am forgetting somebody...
Cheers,
Igor
=
Well, I didn't know you setup the deal with komkon, so that's good to know.
And, well, thanks.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
Some recollections about PDML, PUG, etc.
I joined the list some time in 1997, when I purchased my
first Pentax - ZX-5n. (Actually, since even before I purchased it, -
as the list helped with some information on that camera and lenses.)
I found it through the links on Pentax website. PDML (which
In a message dated 2/16/2009 12:33:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cagu...@earthlink.net writes:
From: "Bob W"
> Kirkland Ramsay III (Presbyterian) aka Mafud aka somebody Grene used to
> get
> involved in long email threads with himself, including some flame wars. As
> (say) Mafud he would p
ed out - probably the mid to late 90's.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr"
>> Subject: RE: 11 years (was: 4 years)
>>
>>
>>> 10 years sometime this year
nal Pentax sponsored list for a few
years before they opted out - probably the mid to late 90's.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr" >
Subject: RE: 11 years (was: 4 years)
10 years sometime this year for me, but I
list since it's start.
> Before that, I was on the original Pentax sponsored list for a few years
> before they opted out - probably the mid to late 90's.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr"
2u2f
- Original Message -
From: "Anthony Farr"
Subject: RE: 11 years (was: 4 years)
10 years sometime this year for me, but I've moved addresses a couple of
times and dropped off the list during longer vacations.
What's the longest possible membership? Any claimants?
It was Aparicio. I recall that I sent him a friendly e-mail off-list
suggesting he refrain from lecturing until he at least got to know the
people on the list. Didn't help. He eventually moved on from being
merely obnoxious to extremely contentious. Then one day he was gone.
Paul
On Feb 16,
On 16/2/09, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Speaking of trolls, there was some guy who did technical writing for a
>living who signed up and tried to teach all of us what Pentax was
>_really_ like. Probably 2005 or 2006. Anyone remember him? IIRC, Cotty
>dug up some reference on who he was.
Actuall, I think it might be this guy, Steven Graham...
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/1837/gallery.html
Jostein
2009/2/16 AlunFoto :
> 2009/2/16 William Robb :
>> Mark Cassino was running the PUG when I came onboard. I believe you were one
>> of the people who was coding pages for a while bef
2009/2/16 William Robb :
> Mark Cassino was running the PUG when I came onboard. I believe you were one
> of the people who was coding pages for a while before I took over the
> gallery.
I think the guy I had in mind (before Cassino) bore the name of
"Graham", but I can't recall if it was his firs
Could be.
The reference was about him receiving some international price for
authoring technical documentation.
Jostein
2009/2/16 :
> Antonio Aporicio, erstwhile Professor of astronomy?
> AlunFoto wrote:
>> 2009/2/16 Subash :
>> > hilarious. i presume some of you must really be missing the
up a rival Pentax forum and tried to poach our
>>> membership.
>>> AF> I wonder if that forum is still online.
>>>
>>> AF> And then there was Bruce Rubenstein who seemed like a decent guy, but
>>> turned
>>> AF> out to be a fanboy for Anot
Antonio Aporicio, erstwhile Professor of astronomy?
AlunFoto wrote:
> 2009/2/16 Subash :
> > hilarious. i presume some of you must really be missing the good old
> > times ;-))
>
> hmmm...
> The Mafudian era was not among those.
>
> Speaking of trolls, there was some guy who did techni
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
I had the 'pleasure' of joining when 'The Who' was posting incoherent,
psychotic emails. Valentin, Bill Robb, Malfud, and others were most
memorable at the time. It was a
- Original Message -
From: "Christine Aguila"
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
I'm am truly sorry I missed this (giggling as I type this). This must
have been a trip to follow. (still giggling as I sign off here).
Lively it was.
William Robb
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g out there, Bruce?
>>
>> Regards, Anthony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> eactiv...@aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 4:19 PM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subjec
, Bruce?
Regards, Anthony
-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
Of
eactiv...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 4:19 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
Checking the PUG -- I submitted my first photo in December
2009/2/16 Subash :
> hilarious. i presume some of you must really be missing the good old
> times ;-))
hmmm...
The Mafudian era was not among those.
Speaking of trolls, there was some guy who did technical writing for a
living who signed up and tried to teach all of us what Pentax was
_really
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Subash wrote:
> hilarious. i presume some of you must really be missing the good old
> times ;-))
speaking of which, even within this short span of 2+ years, i know i
do miss the landscapes of Tom C, the inputs of Ken Takeshita and Rob
Studdert's posts
r
Mark!
(Good thing we don't have anyone around anymore who answers that description...)
--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Bob W wrote:
> Brad was just another snowbound Canadian psycho with cabin
> fever.
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Bob W wrote:
> Kirkland Ramsay III (Presbyterian) aka Mafud aka somebody Grene used to get
> involved in long email threads with himself, including some flame wars. As
> (say) Mafud he would post a statement which the rest of us jumped on, so
> into the fray would
From: "Bob W"
Kirkland Ramsay III (Presbyterian) aka Mafud aka somebody Grene used to
get
involved in long email threads with himself, including some flame wars. As
(say) Mafud he would post a statement which the rest of us jumped on, so
into the fray would jump KRIII (Presb.) in his defence,
2009/2/16 Dario Bonazza :
> The earliest PDML email I've saved from ye olde days dates back to March 20,
> 1997 (it was sent by John Mustarde). So I was already hanging here at the
> time. Email subject was: "Russian lenses in Poland".
> Other guys of the time were, in random order: Ralf Engelmann,
>
> I remember that incident, in particular, because Mafud stated
> categorically
> that it was impossible to spoof emails well enough to avoid
> detection, and
> taking this as proof positive of whatever conspiracy theory
> he was peddling
> that day. (I don't know how come I saw that post, a
AF> responses. Are you still lurking out there, Bruce?
>>
>> AF> Regards, Anthony
>>
>> AF> -Original Message-
>> AF> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> AF> eactiv...@aol.com
>> AF>
The earliest PDML email I've saved from ye olde days dates back to March 20,
1997 (it was sent by John Mustarde). So I was already hanging here at the
time. Email subject was: "Russian lenses in Poland".
Other guys of the time were, in random order: Ralf Engelmann, George
deFockert, George Stanl
1998 - seems like a whole boatload arrived at that time.
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Original Message-
> AF> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> AF> eactiv...@aol.com
> AF> Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 4:19 PM
> AF> To: pdml@pdml.net
> AF> Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
>
> AF> Checking the PUG
6 February 2009 4:19 PM
AF> To: pdml@pdml.net
AF> Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
AF> Checking the PUG -- I submitted my first photo in December 2002 (film,
AF> K1000). That probably means I joined the list a month or two before. Mafud
AF> wasn't
AF> around, but soon
ax-Discuss Mail List
AF> Subject: 11 years (was: 4 years)
AF> 4 eh? It appears I'm 11 yo on this list.
AF> Dario
AF> - Original Message -
AF> From: "Scott Loveless"
AF> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
AF> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:41
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 05:15:59PM +1100, Anthony Farr wrote:
> The crazy young guy was probably Brad Dobo, but could also have been
> Kirkland Ramsey III. At about the same time there was also a person, whose
> name I forget, who was enough of a script kiddy and troublemaker to send
> inflammator
In a message dated 2/15/2009 10:16:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
farranth...@gmail.com writes:
The crazy young guy was probably Brad Dobo, but could also have been
Kirkland Ramsey III. At about the same time there was also a person, whose
name I forget, who was enough of a script kiddy and t
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Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 4:19 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
Checking the PUG -- I submitted my first photo in December 2002 (film,
K1000). That probably means I joined the list a month or two before. Mafud
wasn't
around, but soon a crazy young gu
gt;
>>> Regards, Anthony
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Dario Bonazza
>>> Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 8:11 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discu
year for me, but I've moved addresses a couple of
>>> times and dropped off the list during longer vacations.
>>>
>>> What's the longest possible membership? Any claimants?
>>>
>>> Regards, Anthony
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Stenquist
Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 3:18 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: 11 years (was: 4 years)
I think I started in mid '99, about ten years ago. The Who was in his
last days, but Mafud hung around for quit
s and dropped off the list during longer vacations.
What's the longest possible membership? Any claimants?
Regards, Anthony
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 8:11 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss
e-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Dario Bonazza
>> Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 8:11 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: 11 years (was: 4 years)
>>
>> 4 eh? It appears I'm 11 yo on this lis
dml-boun...@pdml.net] On
Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 8:11 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: 11 years (was: 4 years)
4 eh? It appears I'm 11 yo on this list.
Dario
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From: "Scott Loveless"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mai
through the quotes lists, when I realized
> I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
> accept my apologies.
>
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> http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/
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Dario Bonazza
Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 8:11 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: 11 years (was: 4 years)
4 eh? It appears I'm 11 yo on this list.
Dario
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Loveless"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent
4 eh? It appears I'm 11 yo on this list.
Dario
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Loveless"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: 4 years
I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
the
realized
I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
accept my apologies.
More to the point, can you please apologise for the thought of you
naked.
Did i miss something.??
Dave( Jan 2002) Brooks
I believe I originally subscribed back in 1998. The data would be on
so
when I realized
> I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month.
Wish I knew when I joined. But without being able to look at the old
archives, I don't know.
The old archives aren't still online are they? Anyone? (i.e. Before Doug
s
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Loveless"
I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month.
Happy anniversary! Ha
On 2/15/09, Cotty wrote:
> On 15/2/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
> >I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
> >the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
> >I've been subscribed to
Scott Loveless wrote:
I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
accept my apologies.
Uhhh, for stopping smoking, or for belo
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Cotty wrote:
> On 15/2/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
>>the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
>>I've been subsc
On 15/2/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
>the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
>I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
>accept my apolog
I realized
> I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
> accept my apologies.
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:41:47 -0500, "Scott Loveless"
said:
> I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
> the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
> I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month.
In a message dated 2/14/2009 9:41:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
sdlovel...@gmail.com writes:
I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this
I was sitting here drinking, wondering if I spouted off too much on
the list tonight and reading through the quotes lists, when I realized
I've been subscribed to the list for 4 years this month. Please
accept my apologies.
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D300 actually. The D3's incredible, but too big, too heavy and too
costly. My normal kit seems to be the 20/2.8 AF for almost everything
right now, with a 35/2 AI-S and 85/1.8 AI'd for the rest.
-Adam
On 3/5/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like you bought a D3 or K20D. Go
Sounds like you bought a D3 or K20D. Good on ya. I still use ISO 400
and get the results I need to get. I already have a Summilux-D 25mm f/
1.4 ASPH for ultra low light with the Panny and Oly bodies. I do a
lot of available light shooting with the Nikkor 20/3.5 at present
too. If I need a fa
I do shoot a lot more really low-light stuff than you do, so the
aperture combined with the ISO1600 limit on the E-410/420 would be an
issue for me. Heck, I run out of room shooting f2 lenses at ISO3200
(My new limit of 6400 is very nice for low-light work).
I agree that 20mm would be nicer, but a
The lens looks great! I don't consider f/2.8 to be too slow, but I'd
prefer a 20mm rather than 25mm.
Godfrey
On Mar 5, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0803/08030501olympuse420.asp
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They just introduced a new E-420 DSLR to replace the E-410. It gets an
improved ergonomic grip, wireless flash, contrast-detect AF in live
view mode and most importantly, a 25mm f2.8 pancake as one of the kit
lenses.
Yep. Oly finally matched their tiny SLR with a tiny(if too slow)
pancake prime. S
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