RE: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Bob W
> > > I was > >approached slightly aggressively by a large ram with very impressive > >horns, and a dye stain on his chest. > > Were you able to wash the dye off? > Yes - I used the water pouring from my eyes... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Doug Franklin
David J Brooks wrote: That's cuz they don't know how to get rid of that dreaded magenta cast. That's old news, and applies only to the Communist spies. :-) And, technically, it's a pinko cast. ;-> -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mai

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: > I was >approached slightly aggressively by a large ram with very impressive horns, >and a dye stain on his chest. Were you able to wash the dye off? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/09, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >So I don't imagine that 'feeling the collar' of serious photographers >is gonna do you much good. I agree. The police person was out training the PCSO. Mama bear was showing her cub how to pounce -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O)

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic Does seem a bit of a cock-up. Seven officers on the train, one of them even holding the man down in his seat while two others shoot him at point blank rang

RE: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Bob W
[...] > > One could argue that if these tactics had been in place > before nuts with ideals and death wishes started blowing up > buildings, we might be living in a slightly less dangerous world > > Baa-aaa-aaa... Been walking in the countryside for the last few days. Yesterday I walked

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:13 AM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: BBC staff photog > questioned over terror sunset pic > > > >> One could argue that if these tactics had been in place before nuts with >> id

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/1/2009 7:19:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Cotty, I imagine we'd be absolutely wacko over here if some terrorist bombed a subway or bus, so I understand somewhat. What I don't get is the focus on photographers. Once upon a time, I knew someo

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator 2009/12/1 Cotty : One could argue that if these tactics had been in place before nuts with ideals and death wishes started blowing up buildings, we might be living in a slightly less dangerous world better not tell his folks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Charl

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cotty, I imagine we'd be absolutely wacko over here if some terrorist bombed a subway or bus, so I understand somewhat. What I don't get is the focus on photographers. Once upon a time, I knew someone who wanted pictures inside various competitor's fast food outlets. He took along a small child o

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread eckinator
2009/12/1 Cotty : > > and there are many more important and covert investigations going on of > a much more serious nature, the vast majority we all will never know > about. Playing devils advocate for a moment, if this wasn't happening > there would be plenty who would chirp up to complain that th

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic One could argue that if these tactics had been in place before nuts with ideals and death wishes started blowing up buildings, we might be living in a slightly less dange

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-12-01 Thread AlunFoto
2009/12/1 Cotty : > One could argue that if these tactics had been in place before nuts with > ideals and death wishes started blowing up buildings, Wingnuts. Or in the London case, Tubenuts. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/09, Jim King, discombobulated, unleashed: >That's my take on dealing with this problem too. But how do we make >sure that those in charge of tourism are aware >that we are boycotting London because of harassment of photographers? >Do we need to orchestrate a public boycott, with media fa

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jim King Bob Sullivan wrote on Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:33:49 -0800 > Just vote with your feet, or dollars in this case. > No more tourist dollars for London because you can't use a camera > there. > When that starts to happen and becomes known as a reason why, > all the rules will relax.

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Doug Franklin
Jim King wrote: That's my take on dealing with this problem too. But how do we make sure that those in charge of tourism are aware that we are boycotting London because of harassment of photographers? Start by writing appropriate tourism board(s), such as the national one and the one for L

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Doug Franklin
Bob Sullivan wrote: Just vote with your feet, or dollars in this case. No more tourist dollars for London because you can't use a camera there. When that starts to happen and becomes known as a reason why, all the rules will relax. Regards, Bob S. In a (pseudo/semi) capitalistic society, in t

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cotty can film a little video on his next trip to GFM. These folks won't be coming to London because..Bob S. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Jim King wrote: > Bob Sullivan wrote on Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:33:49 -0800 >> >> Just vote with your feet, or dollars in this case. >> No more tourist dol

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Jim King
Bob Sullivan wrote on Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:33:49 -0800 Just vote with your feet, or dollars in this case. No more tourist dollars for London because you can't use a camera there. When that starts to happen and becomes known as a reason why, all the rules will relax. Regards, Bob S. That's m

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread P. J. Alling
Kids are a protected class, and should be, in most curcumstances. However I wouldn't hesitate to stand up for my rights with a Police Officer most places in the US, or most other "civilized" places. I'll tell a rent a cop to simply screw off or I'll call a real cop, politely if they're polite

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >Don't know why I'm bothering, this should all be sorted out long before >I have money enough to be a tourist in London. LOL John, you're a good man :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- h

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Just vote with your feet, or dollars in this case. No more tourist dollars for London because you can't use a camera there. When that starts to happen and becomes known as a reason why, all the rules will relax. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Cotty

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator 2009/11/30 P. J. Alling > Scarier than than someone "in authority" doing the same thing... Yes and no - I think it is a good thing that these days kids are encouraged to protect themselves and not be naive potential victims yet on the other hand too much of that can cut into th

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty On 30/11/09, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >video: > > As an addendum to this, I would heavily suggest that if you're visiting London and will be photographing, print of this page and keep on your person:

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Nov 30, 2009, at 09:25 , eckinator wrote: 2009/11/30 William Robb : The fact is, six out of seven child molestations are done by either family members or friends of the family. The lone photographer on the street representing a threat is a Hollywood plot device foisted upon us by the

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread AlunFoto
2009/11/30 Cotty : > That's fair enough - except that in the UK we have public rights of way, > typically classified as 'footpath', 'bridleway', and 'road'. These are > effectively public spaces, although in law the public have only the > right to 'pass and re-pass' along them. In law, being able t

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread ann sanfedele
Cotty wrote: On 30/11/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: "Had his collar felt"? LOL He was verbally scolded. Oh those quaint British colloquialisms! ann -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnap

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >"Had his collar felt"? LOL He was verbally scolded. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

RE: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty video: The interview is cryptic if you don't know some of the slang. "Had his collar felt"? http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/BBC_photographer_terror_stop_Former_officer_blasts_Met_news_292330.html http://tinyurl.co

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/09, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: >Just as long as one remembers that some areas, like eg. Canary Wharf, >is private property and is run according to special rules. Last time >in London, I had a chat with several security people, and the right >thing to do to avoid trouble is to o

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread eckinator
2009/11/30 William Robb : > > The fact is, six out of seven child molestations are done by either family > members or friends of the family. The lone photographer on the street > representing a threat is a Hollywood plot device foisted upon us by the > authorities who can gain power by keeping soci

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "eckinator" Subject: Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic Scarier than than someone "in authority" doing the same thing... Yes and no - I think it is a good thing that these days kids are encouraged to protect t

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread eckinator
2009/11/30 P. J. Alling : > Scarier than than someone "in authority" doing the same thing... Yes and no - I think it is a good thing that these days kids are encouraged to protect themselves and not be naive potential victims yet on the other hand too much of that can cut into their childhood whi

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic Scarier than than someone "in authority" doing the same thing... Scarier than any adult doing the same thing, really. William Robb Want to give the

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread P. J. Alling
Scarier than than someone "in authority" doing the same thing... ann sanfedele wrote: Cotty wrote: video: -- Cheers, Cotty Want to give them my story? Briefly, a couple of weeks ago I was photographing a metal frog sculpture in a

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread ann sanfedele
Cotty wrote: video: -- Cheers, Cotty Want to give them my story? Briefly, a couple of weeks ago I was photographing a metal frog sculpture in a neighborhood playground a few blocks from a store I like to shop at in Long Island Cit

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread AlunFoto
Just as long as one remembers that some areas, like eg. Canary Wharf, is private property and is run according to special rules. Last time in London, I had a chat with several security people, and the right thing to do to avoid trouble is to obtain a permit to photograph on the area. Which in their

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread eckinator
Dunno who wrote that but it is time to "reduce [y]our government footprint" I've long adopted the belief that most of the publicized effort and successes against terror are scare tatics intended to keep the public obedient and grateful about giving up civil rights and liberties - if you look at th

Re: BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/09, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >video: > > As an addendum to this, I would heavily suggest that if you're visiting London and will be photographing, print of this page and keep on your person:

BBC staff photog questioned over terror sunset pic

2009-11-30 Thread Cotty
video: -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pd