RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: alternatively, I bought a CD player for £100 in 1985. It still works as new today. You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years and this includes the top players from the

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread John Coyle
Have to add my 1989-vintage Marantz CD player to that list Rob! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Friday, January 11, 2002 9:35 AM, Rob Studdert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: alternatively, I bought a CD player for ?100 in 1985. It still

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Jan 2002 at 10:52, John Coyle wrote: Have to add my 1989-vintage Marantz CD player to that list Rob! Hi John, You wouldn't want to know how many of those things I have repaired/written off :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: alternatively, I bought a CD player for £100 in 1985. It still works as new today. You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years and this

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Both 80's vintage CD players I bought new died early deaths. One was a 1984 Sony and the other was a 1988 Magnavox. Since prices were falling so fast in the 80s I replaced them both with new units rather than pay for repairs. I then bought a Carver in 1991 but even it acts up once in a while now.

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd like to thank everyone who jumped into this thread last week and mentioned that Tamron has a six year warranty on their lenses. My friend double-checked, found his paperwork, and sent the lens in for a free repair under the warranty, saving a bunch of money as well as a lot of time and

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-08 Thread Jody
43mm zoom, so that means it zooms from 43mm to 43mm, right ;) --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my 43mm if he's so inclined. You're probably g right about the quality difference. Thanks! Clive Williams wrote: Some Stuff Send FREE

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-07 Thread Brendan
It's crap, crap, crap, the extra stop isn't worth it at all, but I did get it real cheap :) --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 03:19 AM, Flavio Minelli wrote: Did you ever wonder why there are so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? That one

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-07 Thread Kent Gittings
on eBay. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses We've had a Tamron 28-300 for two years. Works perfectly, never

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-07 Thread wendy beard
- --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan can tell you about the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4. He bought one (from me) against my recommendation...and whaddaya think about it, Brendan? :) What a salesman! No sir, you don't want to buy that lens, it's crap Okay, I'll take two Can

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-06 Thread Clive Williams
He wants a zoom for travel. I used to think I wanted a zoom for travel. That was until I rediscovered the pleasure of primes. [Let's veer OT: why are they called 'primes' anyway?] Now, my M24-35 seldom strays off 24, my F70-210 is pretty well fixed at 210 and the FA28-70 generally stays at

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My friend wants a zoom. He doesn't want to mess around with changing lenses. He's not interested in image quality beyond snap shots and an occasional 8x10. He's not interested in building a kit and carrying around a bunch of lenses, ot trying to decide which to take with him. However, I'd

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Flavio Minelli
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Ho Paul, Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple enough for his wife to use. He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of mine some time, so fixed-lens PS cameras are out. He's happy with the ZX-7. What's

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Paul M. Provencher
Auto wipe was thrown in to see if the message got read to the end... :-) ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Bgpentax
I've had excellent results with the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4 on a ZX-7 body...A real good cosmetic match too...Super sharp at 70mm and just a tad soft at 105mm so nice for portraits. Pop Photog test in Jan. 98 issue I can mail you a copy. Got mine thru SMILE PHOTO for $179.00 + 15.00 S/H

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my 43mm if he's so inclined. You're probably g right about the quality difference. Thanks! Clive Williams wrote: If he likes quality and wants something that'll last, he needs a 43 Limited. For Family pictures, which tend to have more than

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 03:19 AM, Flavio Minelli wrote: Did you ever wonder why there are so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? That one is real crap and the fast (relativeley) aperture is just bait... I totally agree. My SMC-M 28mm f2.8 (which is the worst lens I own in my

Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
Certainly the FA 24-90. If he likes a longer zoom range the Tamron 24-135 seems to be highly regarded (if he's not burned out on Tamron). Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Shel, Every consumer Tokina that I have looked at are heavier, metal bodied behomeths compared to the Tamron and Sigma and even many Pentax zooms. The Tamrons being fairly light (I have two for my wife and daughter, are starting to mechanically fall apart) balance well on the light, Pentax

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2002-01-04 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses Good. Now that that's off my chest, what's a good replacement lens? Build quality is important, optical quality commensurate with family snaps and occasional 8x10, color print use

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread aimcompute
never critiqued it as it was only used for about two rolls of film before buying the longer zoom. It's a lens. Tom C. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer

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2002-01-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
He's used it but a dozen or so times. Artur Ledóchowski wrote: You may want to instruct your friend on how one should treat such equipment as lens:)) Don't drive nails with it:)) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What kind of electronics are in these lenses? aimcompute wrote: He doesn't go out and take pictures of electrical storms does he? :-) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Paul M. Provencher
List Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses A friend of mine, heeding advice from this list, purchased a ZX-7 a little more than a year ago, and grabbed a Tamron zoom (28~200 maybe - don't recall right now) to use primarily for family snaps and a trip that he and his wife took last

Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses

2002-01-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ho Paul, Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple enough for his wife to use. He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of mine some time, so fixed-lens PS cameras are out. He's happy with the ZX-7. What's auto wipe? Paul M. Provencher