On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
>> On 3/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> Note, I am not trying to add anything useful to this discourse.
>>
>> Mark.
>
>> From the 2005 quotations list:
>
> "This comment is not designed to add useful discourse
>>>"This comment is not designed to add useful discourse."
>>> - William Robb
>>
>>Smartass ;-)
>
>Isn't he, though?
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Cotty wrote:
>On 3/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>>From the 2005 quotations list:
>>
>>"This comment is not designed to add useful discourse."
>> - William Robb
>
>Smartass ;-)
Isn't he, though?
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On 3/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>From the 2005 quotations list:
>
>"This comment is not designed to add useful discourse."
> - William Robb
Smartass ;-)
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> >On 3/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>Note, I am not trying to add anything useful to this discourse.
> >
> >Mark.
>
> >From the 2005 quotations list:
>
>"This comment is not designed to add useful discourse."
> - William Robb
>
It appears to be a bit of a habit. ;-)
Cotty wrote:
>On 3/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Note, I am not trying to add anything useful to this discourse.
>
>Mark.
>From the 2005 quotations list:
"This comment is not designed to add useful discourse."
- William Robb
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On 3/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Note, I am not trying to add anything useful to this discourse.
Mark.
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On 1/03/07 1:12 PM, "Adam Maas", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Monarch shot is good, if a little over-saturated. The road and
> treeline is a fun example of a blue/gold polarizer. The other two are crap.
Looking at the tree line and its edge, magic wand was used to make the sky
look clear :-).
I
> need professional help).
>
> mike wilson wrote:
>>> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:22:44 GMT
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K1
William Robb wrote:
>I'd even hazzard a guess, without looking into my filtered emails,
>that I know who he is arguing with..
Har!
(Just looked at the "unread" count in my own Deleted bin...)
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Full frame would be Kodaks original format. would be 2 1/4 x 3 1/2
inches. They invented it.
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bronek Kozicki" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO -
> Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
>
>
>
>>
Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO -
> Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
>
>
> > Your just arguing nomenclature.
>
> He's not the only person on
120 is a film size, not a format.
jco
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K10D
Let's not fight over words.
Tom C.
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>K10D
>Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:01:50 +
t
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
>>
>> Peter Fairweather wrote:
>>
>>> Instead of being cruel about Ken Rockwell, try reading his work.
>>> Nowhere also has the basic spec of the new Canon 7d. Not o
Well, he certainly has an "eye" for "color".
mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:22:44 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Her
- Original Message -
From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO -
Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
> Your just arguing nomenclature.
He's not the only person on list who argues nomenclature. I'd even hazzard a
guess, without looking into m
- Original Message -
From: "Bronek Kozicki" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO -
Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
> "full frame" is not a format name.
I've always wondered what the crop factor was on my Pentax 6x7.
Does anyone know what full fra
- Original Message -
From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO -
Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
> He links to this http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/71055999 from his site
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/gallery.htm
>
> I can't work out wh
Your just arguing nomenclature.
The majority of people on this list can't afford the current MF/LF
digital bodies/backs, without selling their soul & organs. So when
someone refers to full frame digital, it's generally understood that
they're talking 35mm full frame.
Cheers,
Dave
On 1/3/07, Bro
LL FRAME its not too
> much to understand & assume they mean the full
> 24x36mm, 35mm, 135 format, format frame.
> jco
>
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> Bronek Kozicki
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:0
f Of
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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs
K10D
Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 1/3/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:22:44 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
&
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "full frame" is not a format name. It can be used as a format name only
> if supplemented by information "which frame" ? In citation above it is
> 35mm, or 135, and the crop factor is relative to full frame of 135
> format. It annoys me th
>
> From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:22:44 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
>
> Peter Fairweather wrote:
> > Instead of being cruel about K
Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Digital Image Studio wrote:
>>> factor relative to FF 35mm ;-)
>>
>>
>> keyword underscored.
>
> ...and?
>
"full frame" is not a format name. It can be used as a format name only
if supp
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "John Forbes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have finally got my hands on a K10D. Wonderful machine. But I got it
>mainly because I found the D to be too slow when shooting RAW in the
>studio. The pixel count made no difference.
>
>John
>
Hah!
Tom
On 1/2/07, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Instead of being cruel about Ken Rockwell, try reading his work.
> Nowhere also has the basic spec of the new Canon 7d. Not only can he
> review cameras he hasn't used, he can even do this for cameras which
> don't yet exist. 24 meg sensor,
On 03/01/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've always thought of him as a kind of super-charged version of Ace
> "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be home for breakfast!" Rimmer, with bigger
> balls and a better tan.
That's ridiculously complimentary... for Ken ;-)
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Peter Fairweather
> Sent: 02 January 2007 22:04
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Fw: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia
> Marina vs K10D
>
> Inste
I don't have to be cruel to or about Ken Rockwell, he has himself for that.
Peter Fairweather wrote:
> Instead of being cruel about Ken Rockwell, try reading his work.
> Nowhere also has the basic spec of the new Canon 7d. Not only can he
> review cameras he hasn't used, he can even do this for ca
Peter Fairweather wrote:
> Instead of being cruel about Ken Rockwell, try reading his work.
> Nowhere also has the basic spec of the new Canon 7d. Not only can he
> review cameras he hasn't used, he can even do this for cameras which
> don't yet exist. 24 meg sensor, 3.1 frames per second continuou
Instead of being cruel about Ken Rockwell, try reading his work.
Nowhere also has the basic spec of the new Canon 7d. Not only can he
review cameras he hasn't used, he can even do this for cameras which
don't yet exist. 24 meg sensor, 3.1 frames per second continuous he
informs us. What a guy!!
Pe
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Digital Image Studio wrote:
> > factor relative to FF 35mm ;-)
>
>
> keyword underscored.
...and?
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Digital Image Studio wrote:
> factor relative to FF 35mm ;-)
keyword underscored.
B.
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Width maybe, but height is, (well at the sizes we're considering), much
greater in the Kodak chip than in APS-H format.
Adam Maas wrote:
> Yes, but the size is similar.
>
> -Adam
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> That's not true, the Kodak chip is the same ratio as APS-C ~ 35mm ~
>> 6x9cm (2:3).
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> she does not ;-P and I'm not going to argue with you other points, as
> they might be true indeed. The fact is I'm just losing patience seeing
> discussion that could end up like whinning "when Pentax will finally
> release full frame camera
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you seem to forgot that the new Hoya Pentax company will launch in
> October -- I'd be surprised if 645D does not go to market before this
> date, and I'd be shocked if it is pulled back with no good reason other
> than "merger".
I think I'
Yes, but the size is similar.
-Adam
P. J. Alling wrote:
> That's not true, the Kodak chip is the same ratio as APS-C ~ 35mm ~
> 6x9cm (2:3). APS-H (16:9) isn't even close. Geeze these numbers are
> published everywhere.
>
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> Bronek Kozicki wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Digital
On 03/01/07, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What they call "blind test" is rampant. They exhibit images taken by
> various cameras including 5D (usually more than 5 images taken by different
> cameras) and see if anyone can tell the difference. This of course is more
> for an entertain
That's not true, the Kodak chip is the same ratio as APS-C ~ 35mm ~
6x9cm (2:3). APS-H (16:9) isn't even close. Geeze these numbers are
published everywhere.
Adam Maas wrote:
> Bronek Kozicki wrote:
>
>> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> B obviously hasn't looke
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
>> images.
>
> Leica M8 is croppped, although not APS.
>
>
> B.
>
Close to APS-H actually. About as close to that as DX format is to APS-C.
-Adam
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Subject: Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:
>
On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:
> The fact is I'm just losing patience seeing
> discussion that could end up like whining "when Pentax will finally
> release full frame camera?!". There is no "full frame" to start with,
> it's just 135 format called by a different name invented b
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> The pertinent consideration of course is that the now defunct
>> resolution sensors would have used a similar silicon area to those by
>> which they were replaced. FF and APS sensors will always differ in
>> price by at le
P. J. Alling wrote:
> Your arguments are known. Your conclusions are suspect, and your mother
> dresses you funny.
she does not ;-P and I'm not going to argue with you other points, as
they might be true indeed. The fact is I'm just losing patience seeing
discussion that could end up like whin
K.Takeshita wrote:
> On 1/02/07 10:46 AM, "Bronek Kozicki", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying "never", but currently Pentax seems to be heading in different
>> direction. We will see. As for now, I'm buying both FA and DA lenses,
>> depending
>> on my immediate needs.
>
> It is well
P. J. Alling wrote:
>> There is nothing that makes 24x36mm "sweet spot" except for
>> Canon's marketing strategy
> and the huge supply of very good to brilliant existing lenses designed
> for that format.
the point I was trying to make is that alghough these lenses loose their
angle of view,
Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And for those interested in best quality and high resolution, I'd suggest
>> searching in ebay for 67 and 645 Pentax lenses - prices will soar later this
>> year. And it is much less "speculative" prediction tha
Yes, but it would be violated anyway. (Actually, now I feel violated,
I'm off for a shower).
Doug Franklin wrote:
>> On 1/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> AIIEEee.
>>>
>>> Not Ken Rockwell!
>>>
>
> Do we need a "Ken Rockwell Rule" similar to th
Listen to the new guy lecturing us.
Interesting but we've been over this umpteen thousand times. Most of
what you're saying is known to even the most technically obtuse on this
list.
Very good 35mm lenses work well on the Canon FF digital cameras. This
is testified to by the number of Pent
On 1/02/07 10:46 AM, "Bronek Kozicki", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not saying "never", but currently Pentax seems to be heading in different
> direction. We will see. As for now, I'm buying both FA and DA lenses,
> depending
> on my immediate needs.
It is well known that Canon's lens line up
I am fond of APS-C but not despising FF. I am just satisfied with the
current performance and compactness of gears of APS-C DSLR. And of course I
have no intention whatsoever to bring out some $3,000 for essentially
nothing more than just a camera. This might change if and when the
cost/perform
>
> There is nothing that makes 24x36mm "sweet spot" except for
> Canon's marketing strategy
and the huge supply of very good to brilliant existing lenses designed
for that format.
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> The pertinent consideration of co
so their price would be merely astronomical not "US Federal Budget" sized.
William Robb wrote:
> This arrived in my inbox. I think it was meant to go to the list
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bronek Kozicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re:
On 1/2/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 1/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> AIIEEee.
> >>
> >> Not Ken Rockwell!
>
> Do we need a "Ken Rockwell Rule" similar to the "Newsgroup Nazi Rule"? :-)
>
Yes, please. There is usually a bit of reserva
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And for those interested in best quality and high resolution, I'd suggest
> searching in ebay for 67 and 645 Pentax lenses - prices will soar later this
> year. And it is much less "speculative" prediction than the whole FF thingy.
This as
Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm afraid that your argument is purely speculative, there is no proof
> as yet that any Pentax 35mm lenses perform poorly on FF sensors.
The whole thread is purely speculative ;-P
I'm not saying "never", but currently Pentax seems to be heading
> On 1/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> AIIEEee.
>>
>> Not Ken Rockwell!
Do we need a "Ken Rockwell Rule" similar to the "Newsgroup Nazi Rule"? :-)
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Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So I take it your not a fan aft the 35mm full frame DSLR concept.
I am not. Or maybe this whole Canon propaganda just started p**ng me off. I came
from 6x7 (Pentacon Six) and see nothing special in 135 format, except maybe
balance of speed and quality fo
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Silicon is least part of price, it is yield that matters. And it drops
> exponentially with increase of size of sensor, thus making production
> expensive.
Grated, that's why I said at least, yields may be able to be improved
(as they have
On 1/3/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
> > > images.
> > >
> > > http://www.pbase.com/camer
On 03/01/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
> > images.
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_5d (only currently 281942 sample
> > images)
>
> and how m
On 1/2/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone who does not use wide lenses might not care, but given that Pentax
> offer
> is especially strong at the wide end, it should matter for Pentax customers.
> In
> other words, would you buy 24x36mm DLSR from Pentax, if pictures it takes
Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The pertinent consideration of course is that the now defunct
> resolution sensors would have used a similar silicon area to those by
> which they were replaced. FF and APS sensors will always differ in
> price by at least the value of area of sil
On 1/2/07, Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 1/2/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've got some samples I took in store with a Canon 5D and EF 17-40mm
> > f4 L lens. At 17mm & 40mm there is vignetting, but it's easily
> > tre
Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
> images.
Leica M8 is croppped, although not APS.
B.
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On 1/2/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The pertinent consideration of course is that the now defunct
> > resolution sensors would have used a similar silicon area to those by
> > which they were replaced. FF and APS sensors will always differ in
> > price by at least the value of are
st of not having higher rez.
jco
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On 03/01
Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> B obviously hasn't looked at too many "big" Canon or Leica M8 produced
> images.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_5d (only currently 281942 sample
> images)
and how many from wide lenses ?
B.
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Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 1/2/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got some samples I took in store with a Canon 5D and EF 17-40mm
> f4 L lens. At 17mm & 40mm there is vignetting, but it's easily
> treatable in the RAW converter. I think this says more about the l
>
> From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 01:55:09 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
>
> On 03/01/07, J. C. O'Connell &l
HAHA!
On 1/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AIIEEee.
>
> Not Ken Rockwell!
>
> Scott Loveless wrote:
> > On 1/1/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Which is why i have not read a DP review thread in 12 months.
> >>
> >> i Prefer to ask those
On 1/2/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This arrived in my inbox. I think it was meant to go to the list
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bronek Kozicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Mar
On 03/01/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This arrived in my inbox. I think it was meant to go to the list
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bronek Kozicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia M
This arrived in my inbox. I think it was meant to go to the list
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From: "Bronek Kozicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Full frame vs APS-C was: Re: PESO - Hertzlia Marina vs K10D
> Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I
On 03/01/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The price difference in absolute dollars
> between FF and APS has and will continue
> to drop. As it gets lower and lower, the
> benefit/(price difference) ratio will get
> too high to make APS attractive or maybe
> even eventually feasable.
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On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:17:37 -, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Forbes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
&
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:17:37 -, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Forbes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> If every other manufacture brings out a FF body Pentax will as well or
>>> they _will_ _die_. Simple as that.
>>
>> But the othe
AIIEEee.
Not Ken Rockwell!
Scott Loveless wrote:
> On 1/1/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Which is why i have not read a DP review thread in 12 months.
>>
>> i Prefer to ask those actally using the product what its like.:-)
>>
>>
> This guy has a gre
Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Forbes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> If every other manufacture brings out a FF body Pentax will as well or
>>> they _will_ _die_. Simple as that.
>>
>> But the others won't. Simple as that.
>>
>> And
On 1/1/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which is why i have not read a DP review thread in 12 months.
>
> i Prefer to ask those actally using the product what its like.:-)
>
This guy has a great website: http://www.kenrockwell.com/
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William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Forbes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> If every other manufacture brings out a FF body Pentax will as well or
>>> they _will_ _die_. Simple as that.
>> But the others won't. Simple as that.
>>
>> And actually it won't affect Pent
- Original Message -
From: "John Forbes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If every other manufacture brings out a FF body Pentax will as well or
>> they _will_ _die_. Simple as that.
>
> But the others won't. Simple as that.
>
> And actually it won't affect Pentax. Any "full-frame" bo
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