RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-23 Thread mike wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/07/23 Mon AM 01:47:27 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Bill, It isn't that kind

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-23 Thread Tom C
of that. Guess what? Most people haven't heard of Tom Cakalic either. WHat's that have to with anything? Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-23 Thread Tom C
of that. Guess what? Most people haven't heard of Tom Cakalic either. WHat's that have to with anything? Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01

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2007-07-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best known photos. My parents

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2007-07-22 Thread Bob W
He was the *other* photographer on Iwo Jima with the Marines in 1945 ... the guy Rosenthal beat to the top of the hill. I don't think W.Eugene Smith was even there. I've never seen him mentioned as part of that picture, which was, for all intents, a staged propoganda shot, being

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2007-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling
wrote: - Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best known photos

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Robb, shut the fuck up. If you read the history the area where this flag was put was hardly pacified and those raising it could have come under fire at any time. It was a rallying action, done for moral so

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2007-07-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
- From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best known photos. My parents never subscribed

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2007-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Since you insist on being a shit I guess it doesn't matter what I say to you. Therefore I will say nothing further. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Robb, shut the fuck up. If you read the history the area where

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2007-07-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
of the last survivor, as he tried to understand why dad never spoke of it. Regards, Bob S. On 7/22/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! I suspect many people just missed the reference because

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2007-07-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best known

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2007-07-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Bill, I think you would enjoy reading 'Flags of our fathers'. It's far from a propoganda book on the subject. It's written by a son of the last survivor, as he tried to understand why dad never spoke

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Since you insist on being a shit I guess it doesn't matter what I say to you. Therefore I will say nothing further. Just because I don't wave your flag doesn't give you the right to stop thinking and start

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2007-07-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 22, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I read the 'Flags of our fathers book on the way to New Zealand/Australia last fall. I believe it was the basis for the Clint Eastwood directed movie of the same name. It was written by the son of an undertaker/funeral home director from

Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
that haunts you with a lifetime of nightmares. Regards, BobS. On 7/22/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Bill, I think you would enjoy reading 'Flags of our fathers'. It's far from a propoganda

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2007-07-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Godfrey, I'd especially like to see the Japanese film, having read the Flags book. War is never a one sided taleof right versus wrong. I have great respect for the men on both sides who 'died for their country.' Regards, Bob S. On 7/22/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

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2007-07-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Bill, It isn't that kind of a book. The book recounts the history of the individual flag raisers before and after the picture. The funeral director guy joined the Navy to stay out of the ground war

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2007-07-22 Thread Paul Sorenson
he wanted it. As it was, he barely had time to raise the camera and click the shutter. He hadn't the slightest idea what he had until his editors made it an icon of the war. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! I

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2007-07-22 Thread graywolf
My experience is that most of those who have held the shitty end of the stick don't like to talk about it. The few who do seem to be the type who become mercenaries. Most of the rest of the story tellers tended to be on the fringe of things, seems like having your buddies splattered all over

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2007-07-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
10 to 20 percent of a modern army actually experiences combat fighting, 'holding the shitty end of the stick.' Not many are willing to talk about it. Most saw buddies die while they survived. On 7/22/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that most of those who have held the

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-22 Thread David Savage
I rented Letters From Iwo Jima DVD recently, the comment I got halfway through You couldn't have picked a comedy could you? :-) It's a very strong film, and it's interesting to hear the tale from the Japanese perspective. Cheers, Dave On 7/23/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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2007-07-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sounds like the response I got too. I'm not very big on comedies in film or on television ... they have to be very good comedies to hold my attention. G On Jul 22, 2007, at 9:35 PM, David Savage wrote: I rented Letters From Iwo Jima DVD recently, the comment I got halfway through You

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2007-07-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Bob W wrote: I have a brain full of photographic trivia. You've never heard of W E Smith? You amaze me. I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for

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2007-07-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best known photos. My parents never subscribed to it, so while familiar

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2007-07-21 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 07:33:48PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread dglenn
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going to put anything by John Denver in a subject line under *any* circumstances.

Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going to put anything by John Denver in a subject line under *any* circumstances. Anyway, tomorrow morning Dr. Lisa and I are

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread David J Brooks
Dental floss buches are dormant this time of year. Have a good trip Dave On 7/20/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Doug Brewer
Mark Roberts wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going to put anything by John Denver in a subject line under *any* circumstances. Anyway, tomorrow

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Doug Brewer wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going to put anything by John Denver in a subject line under *any* circumstances.

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going to put anything by John Denver in a subject line under *any* circumstances. Anyway, tomorrow

RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado

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2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
Almost forgot. Are you leaving on a jet plane? Maybe you can take some pictures of the eagle and the hawk. When you do return home, it's hard coming down from that rocky mountain high. Goodbye again. -- Scott Loveless Sunshine on his shoulder will make him happy. Tom C. -- PDML

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2007-07-20 Thread Bill Owens
Don't miss the wild Montana skies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:24 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Almost forgot. Are you leaving on a jet plane? Maybe you can take

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! You'll love it. If you get chance to go N on highway 9 from Silverthorne to Kremmling there is some very pretty mountain scenery, especially on the W side of the road, as well as a river winding by the road much

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2007-07-20 Thread ann sanfedele
I love the dental floss song and agree decisively with your opinion of John Denver :) Will look forward to GESO have fun! ann Mark Roberts wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to

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2007-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: The area around Leadville is also well worth a visit. Take oxygen though, you are up close to 10,000 feet. Where we're staying is at 8750 ft and we'll be doing several hikes well above 10,000. Probably two or three fourteeners, saving LaPlata, my favorite, for late in the

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2007-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Back when it mattered, the joke was that he should be named John Aspen. ann sanfedele wrote: I love the dental floss song and agree decisively with your opinion of John Denver :) Will look forward to GESO have fun! ann Mark Roberts wrote: Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew

Re: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:58:09 -0400 Back when it mattered, the joke was that he should be named John Aspen. ann sanfedele wrote: I love the dental floss song and agree decisively with your opinion of John Denver :) Will look forward to GESO have fun

RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Bill Owens
My thoughts exactly! Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:13 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Goin' to Montanaa! Having lived in Colorado at the height of his career, I liked and still do like

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2007-07-20 Thread Bob W
Kremmling? Isn't that where W E Smith did his Country Doctor story? -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 20 July 2007 16:23 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! You'll love it. If you get

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2007-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Kremmling? Isn't that where W E Smith did his Country Doctor story? And I thought it was somewhere in Moscow... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
@pdml.net Subject: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:20:51 +0100 Kremmling? Isn't that where W E Smith did his Country Doctor story? -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 20 July 2007 16:23

RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Oh wait, no. It's Colorado. Well, I knew it was one of those western states with mountains. But Frank Zappa didn't write a song about going to Colorado and I'm not going to put anything by John Denver in a subject line under *any* circumstances. Anyway, tomorrow morning

Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote: By the time this gets posted, you'll probably already be on the way, but you'll have two great National Parks reasonably close by when you get there. Rocky Mountain National Park to the north, and Great Sand Dunes National Park to the south. Not leaving until tomorrow

RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Bob W
=XSpecific_MAG.Photograph erDetail_VPagel1=0pid=2K7O3R139C2Tnm=W%2E%20Eugene%20Smith -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 20 July 2007 21:26 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! What do you do... just sit around

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2007-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: I have a brain full of photographic trivia. You've never heard of W E Smith? You amaze me. I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous shooters and responsible for some of its best known photos.

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2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Bob W wrote: I have a brain full of photographic trivia. You've never heard

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2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
Interesting story. Thanks. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:54:56 +0100 I have a brain full of photographic trivia. You've never

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2007-07-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob W wrote: I have a brain full of photographic trivia. You've never heard of W E Smith? You amaze me. I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most famous

Re: RE: Goin' to Montanaaaaaa!

2007-07-20 Thread Tom C
Tom C wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob W wrote: I have a brain full of photographic trivia. You've never heard of W E Smith? You amaze me. I suspect many people just missed the reference because he's so often billed as W.Eugene Smith. One of Life magazines most

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2007-07-20 Thread graywolf
to Wikipedia, yes. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Goin' to Montanaa! Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:20:51 +0100 Kremmling? Isn't that where W E Smith did his Country Doctor story