On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Aside from some peeping Tom stuff, most of my high iso work
is just causal snaps. ;-p
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Yes Bob, I saw that one. Didn't order yet because I expected usual
taxes when entering EU :(
Thanks for the reminder though.
2010/9/10 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
Thibouille,
I bought this to use with the K-7 and DA60-250/4.
It's fully functioning and works well.
Ecke, I might be interested.
I dunno how shipping would cost to Belgium ?
i doubt it will be very interesting for me rather than through
DealExtreme but who knows ..
BTW did he get any customs to pay for ?
thanks
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2010/9/12 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
Ecke, I might be interested.
I dunno how shipping would cost to Belgium ?
i doubt it will be very interesting for me rather than through
DealExtreme but who knows ..
BTW did he get any customs to pay for ?
I'll ask. Shipping to Belgium will be
There's going to be a camera better than the K5 someday
A MARK ! if I ever heard one
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Subject: RE: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO
Even worse news: There's going
Thibouille wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
http://k-rumors.com/new-pentax-k-5-leaked-by-lenstip/
Surely it's the shutter that determines
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
So, this is the camera the K-7 should have been right from the start.
:-/
This seem to be a pattern from Pentax. First they introduce something
new, then they makes it better in next generation.
I think I'll jump on K-5, then skip next model, and so on.
MaritimTim
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Thibouille
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Subject: Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO
This seem to be a pattern from Pentax. First they introduce something new, then
they makes it better in next generation.
I think I'll jump on K-5, then skip next model, and so on.
MaritimTim
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com
SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote:
Dosn't all (most) companies do that? It's up to you to
decide if it is worth upgrading from one generation to the next.
Nothing wrong with a little progress and evolution. But as it looks now,
the K-5 will become an impressive demonstration of what a mess
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/11/2010 1:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Well, it's not a Pentax invention.
IrSimple(tm) is already used by Fuji in their digital cameras,
and apparently it shows up in several mobile phones as well.
While current
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
So, this is the camera
Adam Maas wrote:
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
So,
That's what I would have thought as well.
On 9/11/2010 5:06 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Thibouille wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
On 9/11/2010 5:55 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
So, this is the camera
On 9/11/2010 8:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Adam Maas wrote:
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacherfotor...@gmx.de:
Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p,
It's a combination of the shutter speed, the SR system and also the
flash burn speed nowadays.
SR apparently costs sync speed, the high-end Sony's do 1/250 with SSS
off and 1/200 with it on. Likely Pentax and Olympus are limiting their
sync similarly.
Flash burn speed also matters, but only if
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Just like the K20D was the camera the K10D should have been from the start.
The K10D was fine in its time.
In my book, the K20D and the K-7 should never have been at all. This
whole Samsung interlude was a mistake right from the start.
Ralf
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You pays your money and you takes your chances.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/11/2010 8:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Just like the K20D was the camera the K10D should have been from the start.
The K10D was fine in its time.
In my book, the K20D and the K-7 should never have been at all. This
whole Samsung
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer. With some luck I might be
able to get 600 for it now, on ebay. The K-5 is rumored to be at around
1600.
Spent the last months doing a lot of audio and scanning
Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
Pentax was pretty much forced into it. The Sony 12MP CMOS sensor was
not yet available to Pentax for the K20D, so Samsung was the only
option to get something better than the old 10MP CCD in the K10D. With
the K-7 Pentax was primarily updating the body so they
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer. With some luck I might be
able to get 600 for it now, on ebay. The K-5 is rumored to be at
around
On 9/11/2010 10:00 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer. With some luck I might be
able to get 600 for it now,
2010/9/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
Pentax was pretty much forced into it. The Sony 12MP CMOS sensor was
not yet available to Pentax for the K20D, so Samsung was the only
option to get something better than the old 10MP CCD in the K10D. With
the K-7
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:04 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO
This seem to be a pattern from Pentax. First they introduce something new,
then they makes it better in next generation.
I think I'll jump on K-5, then skip next model, and so
Even worse news: There's going to be a camera better than the K5 someday.
;-)
not really. Cameras have been perfect for decades. What happens is that the
marketers and ad-men find new ways to stimulate our spending reflex.
B
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Subject: Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO
They do.
It seems that the neat thing about Pentax is that when you know them, you know
what generation to buy.
If you wants a body upgrade, you go for the body upgrade generation.
If you don't, then you wait for the next refinement generation
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Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: K-5 leaked: plausible IMO
They do.
It seems that the neat thing about Pentax is that when you know them, you
know what generation to buy.
If you wants a body upgrade, you
This kind of stuff always makes me laugh. Pentax is a small camera
company that releases stuff as fast as it can and still make money.
It probably has the smallest budget of the DSLR makers. You want
cutting edge, buy a Canikon. You buy Pentax if you want reasonably
priced primes and uber-AF is
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:42:52PM +, SV Hovland scripsit:
OK, I see what you mean, but I don't agree with you that K-7 was only
a body upgrade from K20D. K-7 gave us more frames per second capture
rate. 77 segment metering, fast AF in low light, white balance
correction of AF, focus
Den 11. sep. 2010 kl. 17.21 skrev Bob W:
Even worse news: There's going to be a camera better than the K5 someday.
;-)
not really. Cameras have been perfect for decades. What happens is that the
marketers and ad-men find new ways to stimulate our spending reflex.
B
So true!
I´ll
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
One of the most interesting things (to me) in the K-5 descriptions I've
seen is the suggestion that the viewfinder has a transparent LCD that
displays the framing lines and focus points. If that's true, it's a body
thing, but
On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 9/11/2010 10:00 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
So I did. Paid 1300 for a K-7, last summer.
I'm not so knowledgeable. What kind of stuff do you do, Ralf?
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:46 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:09 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 9/11/2010 10:00 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Oops... Sorry.
Boris
On 9/11/2010 3:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/11/2010 1:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Well, it's not a Pentax invention.
IrSimple(tm) is already used by Fuji in their digital cameras,
and apparently it
Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out
his site, there's some brilliant work there.
The K-7 forces long-exposure NR on longer exposures, functionally
locking up the camera for twice the duration of the exposure. Not a
big issue at a 30s exposure, but at 30 minutes
So his stuff is a worst case scenario for sensor noise. I see his
problem. Aside from some peeping Tom stuff, most of my high iso work
is just causal snaps. ;-p
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out
On 12 September 2010 01:06, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out
his site, there's some brilliant work there.
The K-7 forces long-exposure NR on longer exposures, functionally
locking up the camera for twice the duration of the
It's not so much the sensor noise as the time wasted IIRC. When you're
doing 1-2 hour exposures, locking the camera up for an extra 1-2 hours
for long-exposure NR is a major issue. And that's what Ralf does
That's different from high ISO work (which is what I do, not what Ralf
does)
My low-light
I gotcha. I'm really liking the K7 metering/exposure. I take some
nighttime casuals, but compared tot the K10D I'm in hog heaven. As
mentioned, the K5 won't be available to me for at least 1.5 years.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
It's not so much the sensor
On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:52, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Nothing wrong with a little progress and evolution. But as it looks now,
the K-5 will become an impressive demonstration of what a mess the K-7
has been, with its rotten Samsung sensor, the obsolete AF system and all
the rest of it.
On Sep 11, 2010, at 12:06, Adam Maas wrote:
Ralf's work is predominantly very long exposure night work. Check out
his site, there's some brilliant work there.
Oooh I can see how the K7 would piss Ralf off, then. Yeah, time exposures
are not where the K7 is at its best.
I've taken a
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps, 1080p, 200-12800iso,
extended 50-25600iso.
http://k-rumors.com/new-pentax-k-5-leaked-by-lenstip/
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Sounds good, especially the autofocus. I'm ready.
I hope it takes the same battery grip as the K7.
Paul
On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Thibouille wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011 allowing 1/250 sync speed,
18 AF points, speed optimized AF-C, 8fps,
Interesting indeed. No reason for /me/ to upgrade from K-7, though.
There is however additional rumor circulating that in the spring of 2011
more announcements will be made...
Boris
On 9/10/2010 12:53 PM, Thibouille wrote:
I like that, personally.
Of importance IMO, new flashes begin 2011
2010/9/10 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
Interesting indeed. No reason for /me/ to upgrade from K-7, though. There is
however additional rumor circulating that in the spring of 2011 more
announcements will be made...
I guess that might just be the upgraded versions of the K-7/K-x that
On 9/10/2010 2:23 PM, eckinator wrote:
I guess that might just be the upgraded versions of the K-7/K-x that
people are talking about and certainly sooner or later the mirrorless
system that Pentax said they have under way. I doubt it will come with
a fully functional K mount adaptor though -
Yep, Paul that would be sweet.
If it is the same grip, I'll get one.
If price can go down a bit (even in 6 months and can sell my body at
good price) I will but I don't really need it.
I can use my Photo courses as pretext. Maybe my wife will believe that one xD
Thibault Massart aka
2010/9/10 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
I should also point out that I made a passing comment there that perhaps
Pentax will introduce some kind of wireless image transfer system and so
they did. Though /personally/ I find IR rather deprecated technology for
this kind of things, but go
Thibouille,
I bought this to use with the K-7 and DA60-250/4.
It's fully functioning and works well.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.31967
See if they still have it...
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep, Paul that would be
In the unlikely event that they've run out: My neighbour is selling
one of those but I doubt it will be any cheaper. he paid € 47 and used
it twice so he'll want to get back as much as possible.
Cheers
Ecke
2010/9/10 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
Thibouille,
I bought this to use with the
On 9/10/2010 2:41 PM, eckinator wrote:
I think IR is nice if you want to transfer one or a few images to a
printer or whatever but at 6 to 8 megs per shot IR is certainly not
fast enough transfer images to a computer in bulk or on the fly.
personally, I still wonder when the first camera will
I just perused the specifications listed for the new K-5. No FPS
figures, though that's not important. The improved autofocus looks to
leapfrog over the 645d, but hell my best lenses are mostly manual focus
anyway. Lots of incremental changes from the K-7 that I'm not directly
caring
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:19:05PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 9/10/2010 2:41 PM, eckinator wrote:
I think IR is nice if you want to transfer one or a few images to a
printer or whatever but at 6 to 8 megs per shot IR is certainly not
fast enough transfer images to a computer in bulk or on
Mmm 4 to 16Mbits is to be expected base on Wikipedia (which means it
may be unreliable). Not *that* slow.
As for BT and Wifi (and IrSimple), it remains to be seen how it
translated on a power consumption PoV.
2010/9/10 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
On 9/10/2010 2:41 PM, eckinator wrote:
I
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:36 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:19:05PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 9/10/2010 2:41 PM, eckinator wrote:
I think IR is nice if you want to transfer one or a few images to a
printer or whatever but at 6 to 8 megs per shot IR is
On 9/11/2010 1:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Well, it's not a Pentax invention.
IrSimple(tm) is already used by Fuji in their digital cameras,
and apparently it shows up in several mobile phones as well.
While current implementations are slow, when VFIR and Giga-IR
make it to the marketplace it
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