On 06/02/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What has film got to do with the K10D's lack of ISO 3200?
I can appreciate that in certain situations the advantages of having ISO
3200 available outweigh it's disadvantages.
I've taken very usable printable ISO 1600/3200 shots with the
Maybe you should have your camera checked out, David. I find that noise
at 1600 with my K10D is quite minimal, less than with my *istD. This is
shot at 1600, and it's cropped to about 60%. No noise reduction.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5247870size=lg
Paul
On 06/02/07, David
Sweet shot Paul.
I admit, I have got good results at 1600 with the K10D in decent
light. But in really poor light the shots I have are quite noisy.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe you should have your camera checked out, David. I find that noise
at 1600
Thanks. Maybe they're underexposed a bit? This shot was taken in very
dim light. Just a bit of room tungsten lighting at night. But it's
right on with exposure. I think it was something like f2 @ 1/8th second.
On Feb 6, 2007, at 7:47 AM, David Savage wrote:
Sweet shot Paul.
I admit, I have
On 2/06/07 8:15 AM, Paul Stenquist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This shot was taken in very dim light. Just a bit of room tungsten lighting at
night.
That's amazing Paul.
It looks as if it was under a full lighting. Perhaps you brightened it up a
bit. I see no appreciable noise for 1600.
BTW,
Oh the under exposed shots are terrible (the K10D is less forgiving
than the D when it comes to exposure IMO). But even the correctly
exposed frames have this streaky blue channel noise through it.
In the busy parts of the shot isn't so noticeable, but in the black
areas it stands out like a sore
Paul, I suggest each time you describe the way you took a shot you
insert a word steady somewhere ;-).
On 2/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. Maybe they're underexposed a bit? This shot was taken in very
dim light. Just a bit of room tungsten lighting at night. But it's
Yes, it's considerably brighter than the actual lighting. Quite a bit colder as
well. But it seemed to look good that way.
Paul
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On 2/06/07 8:15 AM, Paul Stenquist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This shot
The blue channel streaking was reportedly fixed with the last firmware upgrade.
We shall see.
Paul
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh the under exposed shots are terrible (the K10D is less forgiving
than the D when it comes to
How about Shake Reduction? :-)
Paul
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Paul, I suggest each time you describe the way you took a shot you
insert a word steady somewhere ;-).
On 2/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, that would be in line with modern times...
On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about Shake Reduction? :-)
Paul
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Paul, I suggest each time you describe the way you took a
On 07/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The blue channel streaking was reportedly fixed with the last firmware
upgrade. We shall see.
Not so I believe, the blue channel noise is a sensor product and we
are likely stuck with it. Whereas the problem that was fixed (solid
vertical
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Subject: Re: K10D @ ISO 3200
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:35:56 +1100
On 07/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The blue channel streaking
On 07/02/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder if this was the problem seen in my last moon shot with the *ist D
when noise reduction was turned on.
My apologies Tom, I shouldn't have said dark frame, I meant the
sensors masked dark reference pixels.
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On 07/02/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder if this was the problem seen in my
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Emne: Re: K10D @ ISO 3200
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash
Nice photo! I'd love to see an 11x14 print of that ... to see how
that film stands up to enlargement. A web rez derived from a scan
really tells almost nothing about the print you can make from it.
G
On Feb 6, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:
Good question, Godfrey. I shot 1600 ASA Fuji
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Emne: Re: K10D @ ISO 3200
Nice photo! I'd love to see an 11x14 print of that ... to see how
that film stands
I made a 12 x 18 print from Fuji 1600. It was grainy of course, but
nice. The high speed Fuji color print film is rather good. Ditto
Kodak's Portra 800.
Paul
On Feb 6, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Nice photo! I'd love to see an 11x14 print of that ... to see how
that film
I was always disappointed in the quality of 35mm color work enlarged
to 11x or bigger unless I was shooting with ASA 100 film. That's why
I loved medium format so much for larger prints. 5x7 or 8x12 wasn't
as much of an issue.
G
On Feb 6, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I made a
I certainly prefer MF enlargements for the most part, but sometimes
grain is cool. This is the Fuji 1600 shot that I printed at 12x18. It
was shot for a Toyota television commercial that included some
stills, but I liked it as a big print. I printed it on an Epson 1200,
and it hung in my
I have heard ther's a setting somewhere that will allow for exposing
according to ISO 3200.
I can't find anything in the manual. Is this true? How?
Regards
Jens
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The rumor has it that in the future Pentax will release a camera micro
code that will enable both ISO 50 and ISO 3200 'cause one of the beta
versions had it. Currently we're confined to 100-1600 range.
Cheers.
On 2/5/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have heard ther's a setting
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Emne: Re: K10D @ ISO 3200
The rumor has it that in the future Pentax will release a camera micro
code that will enable both ISO 50 and ISO 3200 'cause one of the beta
versions had it. Currently we're confined to 100-1600 range.
Cheers.
On 2/5/07, Jens
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From: Jens Bladt
Subject: RE: K10D @ ISO 3200
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a
lot.
Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so much, I
cant
take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a
lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so
much, I
cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I
shoot Raw)DGN
it's probably OK to brighten up later.
Whatever did you do
I'm looking forward only to the 50.
J
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash
photography a
lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so
much, I
cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 01:27:22PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a
lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so
much, I
cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I
shoot
On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:28 PM, John Francis wrote:
Whatever did you do when you were shooting with 35mm film? Any color
film over ASA 800 is pretty much crap, and even ASA 400 is crap when
you get to an 11x14 inch print.
Portra 800 wasn't bad. And I certtainly wouldn't call Kodak's 400
At 06:27 AM 6/02/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
From: Jens Bladt
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a
lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so
much, I
cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I
shoot
On 9/14/06 12:51 AM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since they claim and extra stop in SR over the K100D maybe that's where
the extra stop is coming from.
According to a Japanese article, extra stop comes from more robust
magnet/coil over K100D's and the improved SR algorithm.
Ken
On 13/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very
film-like results at high ISO's. The Canon and Nikon's are more
objectionable (Although my D50 is extremely clean at 800).
And for those who don't find it objectionable:
I quit like that don't find it objectionable at all.
Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are.
:-)
Dave
At 03:18 PM 14/09/2006, you wrote:
On 13/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very
film-like results at high
On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are.
You can simulate my aperture any time you like.
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The temptation.
But I wouldn't do that.
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On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Sometimes I forget how good a slapper you are.
You can stimulate my aperture any time you like.
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On 9/14/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The temptation.
But I wouldn't do that.
Since when?
Go for it ;-)
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On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Sometimes I forget how good a slapper you are.
You can stimulate my
On 9/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are.
You can simulate my aperture any time you like.
Good thing I just finished my drink...
Dave
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And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600.
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
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And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600.
And if you read at the bottom, it says Specifications are subject to
change. LOL.
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that it only goes down to
200. I'm looking forward to having 100iso on the K10D.
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I don't know about the DL but I find on the D ISO 1600 3200 are very
usable. Especially with the judicious use of noise reduction software in PP.
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_1.htm
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm
Sometimes it's the difference between
It's definitely a horses for courses thing. I like film grain, but really
dislike digital noise.
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. or so says Pentax Imaging.
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Shel
, but really
dislike digital noise.
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I don't know about the DL but I find on the D ISO 1600 3200
Sensitivity equivalent...
Since they claim and extra stop in SR over the K100D maybe that's where
the extra stop is coming from. I didn't see it in the preview of the
Custom Menu on the dpreview site.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. or so says Pentax Imaging.
http://tinyurl.com/gulfl
Shel
Most complaints about excessive noise at reasonable ISO settings are,
in my experience, almost always due to underexposure.
Digital exposure evaluation should be predicated on getting as much
exposure as possible without saturating the pixels where you want
detail in the highlights, and
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