Re: KP pre-order

2017-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm late to this. but I don't see how the K-? stripped down full frame could lose any features that would make it less expensive. Most of the fluff is in the software, which would not decrease unit costs for Ricoh to build. Any actual electronic or mechanical changes such as a smaller buffer,

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-26 Thread John
I was just goofing. That may be how they do EVF, I don't know. On 1/26/2017 6:08 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 03:59 AM, John wrote: Maybe if they put a second one on top facing the bottom of the pentaprism so you could see it through the viewfinder. How is that different

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-26 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 03:59 AM, John wrote: > Maybe if they put a second one on top facing the bottom of the > pentaprism so you could see it through the viewfinder. How is that different than an EVF? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia ht

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-26 Thread postmaster
P. J. Alling wrote: > > The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit > disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it > probably was... The KP is a thousand dollars and the K-1 is two grand. Given that a camera in between tham would be around $1500 I'd g

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-26 Thread John
Maybe if they put a second one on top facing the bottom of the pentaprism so you could see it through the viewfinder. On 1/25/2017 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen from ambient light. Of course then the size advantage is go

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-26 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That might make sense if there was any evidence at all that Ricoh has any interest at all in building an advanced mirrorless camera line. They had the basis for one and decided do quietly drop it, (and I don't mean either Pentax product). What this remin

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-26 Thread John
*Adorama* says it's a replacement, but what has Ricoh said? On 1/25/2017 7:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I guess Adorama doesn't realize that the DA 40mm f2.8 isn't a weather sealed lens... The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit disappointing, actually that's an unders

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
So it's not a screen on the back of the camera? Then I'm okay with it. You have my permission to proceed. :-). I'm clueless when it comes to mirrorless. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I won't like mirrorless until they invent

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen from >ambient light. Of course then the size advantage is gone. It's called "EVF" or electronic viewfinder. Smaller than a pentaprism. >Paul via phone > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Mark Roberts

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
To that add the problem of no diopter correction. Right? I've never used mirrorless, but I assume it's approximately the same as live view?? Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen > fro

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen from ambient light. Of course then the size advantage is gone. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Brian Walters wrote: > >> Perhaps Ricoh is looking to condense its APS-C DSLRs to one

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: >Perhaps Ricoh is looking to condense its APS-C DSLRs to one capable body >and concentrate seriously on FF for DSLR and mirrorless for APS-C. Just >a thought... APS-C becoming strictly mirrorless is how I see the future. At least the near future. Full-frame will become mainl

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sounds like APS-C is going to be strictly an enthusiast line for Pentax. That would make sense. Or perhaps there's more to come. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > From my experience, the K-3 is an excellent studio camera. The KP > doesn't even have X mode on

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Bruce Walker
>From my experience, the K-3 is an excellent studio camera. The KP doesn't even have X mode on the dial, and they left off the X-sync socket. It only accepts a single HDXC card. Missing lots of handy controls off the back. No top info LCD. But it has a dial position for HDR. Retch. Why not one fo

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Well they've "upgraded" the hardware of the user interface but downgraded a lot of the actual mechanical specifications of the camera itself. Except for the high ISO limit everything else seems to be equal or less than the K-3. On 1/25/2017 7:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm sure the photo

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
That might make sense if there was any evidence at all that Ricoh has any interest at all in building an advanced mirrorless camera line. They had the basis for one and decided do quietly drop it, (and I don't mean either Pentax product). What this reminds me of more than anything is the Cano

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm sure the photo came from Pentax marketing. Adorama didn't choose the lens. Why is it a disappointing replacement for the K3? It seems to be a step up in high ISO capability, and I won't be surprised if the autofocus is excellent. Paul via phone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:00 PM, P. J. Alling

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I guess Adorama doesn't realize that the DA 40mm f2.8 isn't a weather > sealed lens... > > The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit > disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it > probabl

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I guess Adorama doesn't realize that the DA 40mm f2.8 isn't a weather sealed lens... The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it probably was... On 1/25/2017 5:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama i

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 5:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t&utm_source=slgt&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Sale&utm_content=Body&utm_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA Paul via phone Followed just minutes later b

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 5:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t&utm_source=slgt&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Sale&utm_content=Body&utm_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA Paul via phone I watched the intro video & h

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t&utm_source=slgt&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Sale&utm_content=Body&utm_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA PF on KP https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/pentax

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
Now its back... wtf? On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Gonz wrote: > "We're sorry; the page you requested can't be located" > > Like they took it down... > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. >> https://www.adoram

Re: KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
"We're sorry; the page you requested can't be located" Like they took it down... On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. > https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t&utm_source=slgt&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Sale&u

KP pre-order

2017-01-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Adorama is offering it for $1099. Says it replaces K3 II. https://www.adorama.com/ipxkpb.html?emailprice=t&utm_source=slgt&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Sale&utm_content=Body&utm_campaign=Email012517PentaxNPA Paul via phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listin