On 9/30/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's how I lull people into a false sense of security. I sound like
> I'm from Pittsburgh so no one ever suspects anything! ;-)
>
>
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/30 Fri PM 02:12:42 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> From: frank theriault <
mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> On 9/30/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I can see the headline in the GFM local paper next year. "15 injured in
>> > shootout at Photo contest. "Bugsy" Reese on the run from the Feds" Who
>
> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/30 Fri PM 12:13:59 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> On 9/30/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I can see
Doug Brewer wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/30/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can see the headline in the GFM local paper next year. "15
injured in shootout at Photo contest. "Bugsy" Reese on the run from
the Feds" Who gets to play the Jodie Foster role?
I will.
-
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/30/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can see the headline in the GFM local paper next year. "15 injured in shootout at Photo
contest. "Bugsy" Reese on the run from the Feds" Who gets to play the Jodie Foster
role?
I will.
-frank
why hello, Cl
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 9/30/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I was working under cover for the forces of darkness.
>
>Your accent threw me off...
That's how I lull people into a false sense of security. I sound like
I'm from Pittsburgh so no one ever suspec
Now that's an image I didn't need this early in the morning.
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/30/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can see the headline in the GFM local paper next year. "15 injured in shootout at Photo
contest. "Bugsy" Reese on the run from the Feds" Who gets to
On 9/30/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was working under cover for the forces of darkness.
>
Your accent threw me off...
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 9/29/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Naw, we turned 'em back after they got as far as North Carolina in
>> June...
>>
>
>"We"?
>
>
I was working under cover for the forces of darkness.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
On 9/30/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can see the headline in the GFM local paper next year. "15 injured in
> shootout at Photo contest. "Bugsy" Reese on the run from the Feds" Who gets
> to play the Jodie Foster role?
I will.
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."
>
> From: "Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/30 Fri AM 11:29:12 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> Mike Wilson wrote:
>
> > > I've already acquired the water balloon launching apparat
Mike Wilson wrote:
> > I've already acquired the water balloon launching apparatus.
>
> You should be careful about what you start
>
> http://www.spudtech.com/
Hey, biological weapons are a violation of international law.
If you're gonna play rough then I'll have to up the ante too. Does any
>
> From: "Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/29 Thu PM 08:21:15 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> Frank Theriault replied to Mark Roberts as follows:
> >
> > >
> > > Naw, we turned &
On 29/9/05, E.R.N. Reed, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>
>I don't think I've ever seen a Klingon smile.
They do when there's the scent of blood in the air.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
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It's hard to tell because they usually show their teeth.
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
Cotty wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen a Klingon smile.
--
When you're worried or in doubt,
Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Cotty wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen a Klingon smile.
Supersoakers for support?
Cotty wrote:
On 29/9/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
I've already acquired the water balloon launching apparatus.
This will be good!
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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On 29/9/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I've already acquired the water balloon launching apparatus.
This will be good!
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
Frank Theriault replied to Mark Roberts as follows:
>
> >
> > Naw, we turned 'em back after they got as far as North Carolina in
> > June...
> >
>
> "We"?
He chooses sides depending on which way the wind is blowing. He's gonna have
to make a final decision soon. The winds of war are blowing a gale
On 9/29/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Naw, we turned 'em back after they got as far as North Carolina in
> June...
>
"We"?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
"P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Wait a minute, I though the Canadians had already invaded Florida.
Naw, we turned 'em back after they got as far as North Carolina in
June...
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
I thought it was a monogue(sp. damn I have enough trouble with English)
a trois...
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/29/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's rumoured that Maggie Trudeau and [Castro] were lovers.
Actually, I believe that was Pierre Trudeau, wasn't it?
-frank
>
> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/29 Thu PM 01:33:37 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> On 9/29/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
&
On 9/29/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
>
> It's rumoured that Maggie Trudeau and [Castro] were lovers.
>
Actually, I believe that was Pierre Trudeau, wasn't it?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
- Original Message -
From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
On 28/9/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
We're hoping you'll trade us Florida for Quebec eventually.
That so you can be closer to Castro?
It's rum
On 28/9/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>We're hoping you'll trade us Florida for Quebec eventually.
That so you can be closer to Castro?
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
: anybody still shoot film?
Older handguns are beautiful machines, as worthy of
collecting as any other well made object. Additionally
Government agents will always have handguns, or worse. Right
now they are on the side of the angels, mostly. That could
change. Even if I don't need a ha
Sorry, even we're not that stupid.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re:
Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
Wait a minute, I though the Canadians had already invaded Florida.
We're hoping you'll trade us Flor
I should have thought any port in a storm.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Tom Reese" Subject: Re: Liberty.
Was: anybody still shoot film?
Bah. Most of your army would quit when they reached the first Milwaukee
brewery.
Amarican beer? FEH!!
WW
Quite so. By the same token, we should also watch that small minority of
people who buy lenses to take pictures, rather than to fondle them as
well-made objects.
John
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:09:02 +0100, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because they are fun to shoot. Because they can be
DagT wrote:
> Let´s go back to photography and talk about attempts in the US to
> stop the free speech of artist like Mapplethorpe, Sally Mann, Jock
> Sturges, etc, as well as certain differences between European and US
> versions of movies, music ++.-)
The Mapplethorpe controversy was about
> -Original Message-
> From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 September 2005 23:13
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> Older handguns are beautiful machines, as worthy of
> collecting as an
- Original Message -
From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
Wait a minute, I though the Canadians had already invaded Florida.
We're hoping you'll trade us Florida for Quebec eventually.
WW
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
1. There was a comma after the gun statement.
It was not a designation regarding Canada.
But to that point, consider Australia.
2. Regarding certain religious speech, he
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Reese"
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
Bah. Most of your army would quit when they reached the first Milwaukee
brewery.
Amarican beer?
FEH!!
WW
They invaded GFM last year.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
P. J. Alling wrote:
Wait a minute, I though the Canadians had already invaded Florida.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As every good American knows, Canada's ab
Wait a minute, I though the Canadians had already invaded Florida.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As every good American knows, Canada's ability to invade the US was thoroughly analyzed in a recent episode of "South Park." I don't remember exactly how it ends. I think the Canadians decide they don't w
Because they are fun to shoot. Because they can be used conveniently in
indoor ranges. Because they are nifty mechanical gizmos, which is the
same reason lots of folks buy cameras, or watches for that matter.
People who buy them primarily as weapons need to be watched closely, in
my opinion.
Older handguns are beautiful machines, as worthy of collecting as any
other well made object. Additionally Government agents will always have
handguns, or worse. Right now they are on the side of the angels,
mostly. That could change. Even if I don't need a handgun, for that
reason, I won'
On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1. There was a comma after the gun statement.
> It was not a designation regarding Canada.
> But to that point, consider Australia.
>
> 2. Regarding certain religious speech, here's a Canada example.
> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/j
pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> Bob W wrote:
>
> > Bellowing across the swamp about it like primeval mastodons
> serves no
> > purpose.
>
> Mark.
>
>
>
>
1. There was a comma after the gun statement.
It was not a designation regarding Canada.
But to that point, consider Australia.
2. Regarding certain religious speech, here's a Canada example.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jun/05060808.html
The problem is that the apparent exemption is a gene
Actually it confirms to the primeval mastadons on one side of the swamp,
that there are indeed primeval mastadons on the other side.
Tom C.
From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still
Bob W wrote:
Bellowing across the swamp about it like primeval
mastodons serves no purpose.
Mark.
Hi,
>
> What many of us fear is the constant reduction of freedom
> from the more serious socialists. The bans on firearms,
> certain religious speech (Canada and Sweden in particular), a
> general unwillingness to discuss issues but instead demagogue
> ideas (like Intelligent Design), restr
On 9/28/05, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Let´s go back to photography
I don't want to get into a discussion about religion or guns either.
I simply wanted the record to reflect that it is a mis-statement to
say that Canada bans firearms or restricts "certain religious speech"
(whatever th
Den 28. sep. 2005 kl. 19.03 skrev frank theriault:
On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The bans on firearms, certain religious speech
(Canada and Sweden in particular)
Can't speak for Sweden, but WRT to Canada: Huh? There is neither a
ban on firearms nor any ban on
pcn> Oh, oh, this is going over to guns. Time to stop boys and girls.
pcn> Remember the last one? It got really, really ugly, blazed on for several
weeks.
I second that. Please :)
Good light!
fra
On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh, oh, this is going over to guns. Time to stop boys and girls. Remember the
> last one? It got really, really ugly, blazed on for several weeks.
You're right - I wasn't intending on getting into a gun debate, or a
religious freedom
As every good American knows, Canada's ability to invade the US was thoroughly
analyzed in a recent episode of "South Park." I don't remember exactly how it
ends. I think the Canadians decide they don't want it after all. Kenny, of
course, dies in defense of his country. But then Kenny dies in e
On 9/28/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I bet that % and number was higher when we razed yer White House too.
> Don't underestimate us.
>
> William Robb
>
Just to clarify, Mr. Robb, the burning of our "White House" was a
symbollic victory over a mostly deserted, undefended town of
John Forbes
> As for bans on firearms: would you still want a handgun if nobody else had
> one? And if so, why?
I'd want mine. I love target shooting with it.
Tom Reese
I have to say that I thought "Intelligent Design" (the name is a joke in
itself) was an American invention. It certainly seems to have been taken
up by Americans in a much bigger way than elsewhere. And as for an
unwillingness to discuss issues, I don't think Americans can claim to be
bet
"Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>William Robb warned:
>
>> From: "Mark Roberts"
>>
>> > Canada had more firearms per capita than the United States. (Of course,
>> > the population here is vastly greater, so the total number of firearms
>> > is greater than that of Canada. We're probably saf
AIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
>
>
> The bans oncertain religious speech
> > (Canada in particular),
>
> C'est What?
>
> William
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: "Mark Roberts"
>>
>> Canada had more firearms per capita than the United States. (Of course,
>> the population here is vastly greater, so the total number of firearms
>> is greater than that of Canada. We're probably safe from invasion!)
>
>I bet
William Robb warned:
> From: "Mark Roberts"
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
> > Canada had more firearms per capita than the United States. (Of course,
> > the population here is vastly greater, so the total number of firearms
> >
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
The bans oncertain religious speech
(Canada in particular),
C'est What?
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
Canada had more firearms per capita than the United States. (Of course,
the population here is vastly greater, so the total number of firearms
is greater than that of Can
On 9/28/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Canada had more firearms per capita than the United States. (Of course,
> the population here is vastly greater, so the total number of firearms
> is greater than that of Canada. We're probably safe from invasion!)
>
Well, that was the point
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The bans on firearms, certain religious speech
>> (Canada and Sweden in particular)
>
>Can't speak for Sweden, but WRT to Canada: Huh? There is neither a
>ban on firearms nor any ban on religi
On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The bans on firearms, certain religious speech
> (Canada and Sweden in particular)
Can't speak for Sweden, but WRT to Canada: Huh? There is neither a
ban on firearms nor any ban on religious speech that I know of...
cheers,
frank
--
"S
>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 02:54:37 -0700
>
>It's just that words change meaning with languages and geography.
Especially in
>politics were the winner may try to degrade the views of the opponent.
>
>Liberal is slightly on the right wing here, but may be understood as left
wing
>in the US, and I've met a
It's just that words change meaning with languages and geography. Especially in
politics were the winner may try to degrade the views of the opponent.
Liberal is slightly on the right wing here, but may be understood as left wing
in the US, and I've met americans who cant understand how we can h
efinition below wouldn't work at all.
--
Cheers,
Bob
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 September 2005 00:44
> To: Pentax Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
>
>
> I recently ra
That's fine Marnie. :) I'm spouting off myself... on some kind of kick
tonight. Last week on this job and starting a new one next week.
Tom C.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot
In a message dated 9/27/2005 11:20:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a very liberal phrase to spout. :)
I'm pulling your leg on most of this rhetoric, though the phrase does bug
me, especially when I consider who says it in the work place.
OK... very seriously, my post
Marnie wrote:
Yes, I slipped. My bad.
Actually I hate the term 'my bad'. I know it came from some movie. To me
it says "Yeah, I made a mistake, so what?... and is designed to rid oneself
of any perceived guilt they may feel over their own inadequacy, inaccuracy,
or plain old screw up. At
In a message dated 9/27/2005 5:44:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Weren't you the one who, just a while ago, suggested keeping politics out
of this discussion. Yet here you are, jumping in with both feet and moving
the discussion further towards politics.And yes, I know
John Forbes wrote:
So an innocent word has been highjacked by the illiberal to mean
something else?
Perhaps we need language police.
Heck, we can't stay civil around here when discussing the correct
spelling of "lens" and you want to talk about a political label???
ERNR
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes"
Subject: OT: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
"Of political opinions: Favourable to constitutional changes and
legal or administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom
or democracy."
Surely this i
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
> >Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:45:52 -0600
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message - From: "John Forbes"
> >Subject: OT: Liberty. Was: anybod
I visited the statue of liberty once -- maybe twice. That was in the
days when I was still shooting film. Hope that answers everyone's
questions :-).
Paul
liberals...
libertarians...
...
libertins!
mishka
I recently ran across these "working definitions" that go beyond politics to
one's personal philosophy:
conservative: Anything not expressly allowed is prohibited
liberal: Anything not expressly prohibited is allowed
Tim
On 9/27/05 16:34, John Forbes wrote:
> So an innocent word has be
Tim Sherburne wrote:
I recently ran across these "working definitions" that go beyond politics to
one's personal philosophy:
conservative: Anything not expressly allowed is prohibited
liberal: Anything not expressly prohibited is allowed
Anything not expressly prohibited is
So an innocent word has been highjacked by the illiberal to mean something
else?
Perhaps we need language police.
John
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:19:33 +0100, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John Forbes asked:
The word (liberal) comes from Old French, and originally meant
"pertaining
t
"John Forbes"
Subject: OT: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
"Of political opinions: Favourable to constitutional changes and
legal or administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom
or democracy."
Surely this is what all Americans want? Isn't it? So
Weren't you the one who, just a while ago, suggested keeping politics out
of this discussion. Yet here you are, jumping in with both feet and moving
the discussion further towards politics.And yes, I know others are
participating, but they didn't make the statement you did. I sure hope
this d
In a message dated 9/27/2005 5:35:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The definition you cited is now pretty much covered by the word libertarian
(with a small l).
Tom Reese
=
Liberal still means liberal. It doesn't matter how much some distort it.
Marnie aka Doe
John Forbes said:
> So an innocent word (liberal) has been highjacked by the illiberal to mean
something
> else?
>
> Perhaps we need language police.
The definition you cited is now pretty much covered by the word libertarian
(with a small l).
Tom Reese
In a message dated 9/27/2005 3:12:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Surely this is what all Americans want? Isn't it? So what's wrong with
being liberal?
John
=
Absolutely nothing. There's not a thing wrong with it. I am very liberal in
the true meaning of the wo
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes"
Subject: OT: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
"Of political opinions: Favourable to constitutional changes and legal
or administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom or
democracy.&qu
ohn Forbes"
Subject: OT: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
"Of political opinions: Favourable to constitutional changes and
legal or administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom
or democracy."
Surely this is what all Americans want? Isn't it? So wh
I think the list is 'coughing up' some old posts again. :)
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:45:52 -0600
- Original Messag
John Forbes asked:
> The word (liberal) comes from Old French, and originally meant "pertaining
to a free
> man". Its very root means "free".
>
> So why is it that in the land of the free, many people seem to like
> freedom for everything except thought, and consider "liberal" to be a
> dirty wor
- Original Message -
From: "John Forbes"
Subject: OT: Liberty. Was: anybody still shoot film?
"Of political opinions: Favourable to constitutional changes and legal or
administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom or democracy."
Surely this i
Can you be an old hippie without being aged? :-)
But I'm glad you concede that liberals HAVE souls...!
The word comes from Old French, and originally meant "pertaining to a free
man". Its very root means "free".
So why is it that in the land of the free, many people seem to like
free
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