Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Robinson
I've always thought of NR as something used to smear over grain and noise... and I've always used it sparingly if at all because I never really thought it helped. RAW files that are re-processed with Process 2010 in LR3 and then have some luminance NR applied look GREAT. A file which was

RE: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Bob W
Examples for those of us whose LR3 hasn't arrived yet? I've always thought of NR as something used to smear over grain and noise... and I've always used it sparingly if at all because I never really thought it helped. RAW files that are re-processed with Process 2010 in LR3 and then have

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:02, Bob W wrote: Examples for those of us whose LR3 hasn't arrived yet? I'll see if I can do some screen grabs of a messy image from Process 2003 and Process 2010 for comparison. I'm at work, so might take a little bit of time. -Charles -- Charles Robinson -

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:02, Bob W wrote: Examples for those of us whose LR3 hasn't arrived yet? Here we go. I had some strong backlighting and underexposed the subject horribly. K-7, ISO 800, with the exposure pushed in LR by +2.00 The two files have exactly the same processes - one is

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Paul Sorenson
Good to hear the good news on the noise reduction in v3. Any other comments on V3 vs V2? Is the interface pretty much the same? Is it faster? More info please -p On 6/10/2010 10:46 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've always thought of NR as something used to smear over grain and

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread David J Brooks
I was thinking I may not up grade to LR3, but now.?? Dave On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:02, Bob W wrote: Examples for those of us whose LR3 hasn't arrived yet? Here we go. I had some strong backlighting and underexposed

RE: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Bob W
Here we go. I had some strong backlighting and underexposed the subject horribly. K-7, ISO 800, with the exposure pushed in LR by +2.00 The two files have exactly the same processes - one is just a virtual copy of the other with the only difference being the Process 2003 or Process

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26, Paul Sorenson wrote: Good to hear the good news on the noise reduction in v3. Any other comments on V3 vs V2? Is the interface pretty much the same? Is it faster? More info please Also: Just closed it and was asked do you want to backup now? with the

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26, Paul Sorenson wrote: Good to hear the good news on the noise reduction in v3. Any other comments on V3 vs V2? Is the interface pretty much the same? Is it faster? More info please Pretty much the interface is the same. All of the promos say it's a lot

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Paul Sorenson
Sounds like I need to think seriously about spending $99... :-) -p On 6/10/2010 11:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26, Paul Sorenson wrote: Good to hear the good news on the noise reduction in v3. Any other comments on V3 vs V2? Is the interface pretty much the

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Paul Sorenson wrote: Sounds like I need to think seriously about spending $99... :-) -p On 6/10/2010 11:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26, Paul Sorenson wrote: Good to hear the good news on the noise reduction in v3. Any other comments on V3 vs V2? Is the

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Sounds like I need to think seriously about spending $99... :-) -p On 6/10/2010 11:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26, Paul Sorenson wrote: Good to hear the good news on the noise reduction in

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Bruce Walker
paul stenquist wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Sounds like I need to think seriously about spending $99... :-) -p On 6/10/2010 11:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26, Paul Sorenson wrote: Good to hear the good news on the

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:58, paul stenquist wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if you can accomplish the same level of noise reduction with ACR in CS4. I've found it to be very effective. I've read that the NR improvement in LR3 is due to the different processor used for the RAW files. It is the

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread John Graves
Is the improvement in the processing engine enough of a change that I should update from PSE3 to PSE8? Most of what is immediately visible in th ensuing updates since PSE3 have been in areas that have little impact on how I use the program. John / WA1JG Charles Robinson wrote: On Jun 10,

Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread George Sinos
Just tagging into the thread here - The develop module of LR3 and ACR 6.1 are the same. The new features are in both, so if you upgrade to CS5 you'll get the same features. Also - Don't overlook a NAPP membership. It's about $100/year. In addition to the magazine subscription there are a lot

RE: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow!

2010-06-10 Thread Tanya Love
You wanna try the NR in ACR in CS5 - wowsers! Tan.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 3:59 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom3 and noise reduction - wow! On Jun 10