Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

2013-10-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
und myself wanting to scream > in the guy's face. "What is it about it being primarily a "Still" camera > that you don't get?" This little article from Luminous Landscape makes > covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

2013-10-27 Thread David Parsons
ly of cameras > where the reviewer took off points for clunky ways to get into video mode, > (this was especially true of DPReview IIRC), I found myself wanting to > scream in the guy's face. "What is it about it being primarily a "Still" > camera that you don't

An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

2013-10-27 Thread P.J. Alling
y a "Still" camera that you don't get?" This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go a bit too far in the other direction, and having a third

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I think it already is. Good enough always drives out better if there's a price differential. On 9/4/2012 7:58 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I've always thought that the Foveon sensor was looking for a way to win over other camera manufacturers to use their chip, but the price was too high (and the al

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi A Fovean sensor stacks three photosites in each pixel location on the sensor, with a color filter between them. I don't know precisely how they order the stack, but it would make sense to order it blue, green, red since short wavelengths are more easily absorbed than longe

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Darren Addy
I think there is some good info on the answers on this page (be sure to click the "4 more answers" link: http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/22758/how-do-digital-sensors-that-capture-one-color-at-each-photosite-compare-to-senso I think the most interesting comment on the above page is the fol

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
The Sigma site does say 12 bit and it's supposed to be the same sensor. I got my number from the LL article. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Toralf Lund wrote: > On 9/5/12 8:54, John Francis wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: >>> >>> I really like the

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund
On 9/5/12 8:54, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I really like the concept behind the Foveon sensor - every photo-site captures all 3 colors like film did& no need for the anti-aliasing, but what's the deal with the poor image quality above ISO 4

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund
On 9/5/12 16:10, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Toralf Lund wrote: I thought one the main premises was that each sensor would absorb all the light for a certain range of wavelenghts, and not at all respond light outside that range, so that it would continue without any

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> Anyone know if the Foveon sensor outputs 8 bits-per-color or 16? > > My understanding is that the quantization space is 12 bit per component. Ah, on the Sigma site for the SD1, htt

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Toralf Lund wrote: > I thought one the main premises was that each sensor would absorb all > the light for a certain range of wavelenghts, and not at all respond > light outside that range, so that it would continue without any loss of > energy to the next layer(s)

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Anyone know if the Foveon sensor outputs 8 bits-per-color or 16? My understanding is that the quantization space is 12 bit per component. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund
On 05/09/12 08:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> You could do a better job with many aspects of this camera. Maybe low >> light is a sensor problem? > A standard Bayer mosaic sensor is a planar surface with a filter array > on top of it. Thi

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Anyone know if the Foveon sensor outputs 8 bits-per-color or 16? -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above a

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 4, 2012, at 11:54 PM, John Francis wrote: > On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: >> >> I really like the concept behind the Foveon sensor - every >> photo-site captures all 3 colors like film did & no need for the >> anti-aliasing, but what's the deal with the poo

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: > > I really like the concept behind the Foveon sensor - every > photo-site captures all 3 colors like film did & no need for the > anti-aliasing, but what's the deal with the poor image quality above > ISO 400? Physics. If you don't

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > You could do a better job with many aspects of this camera. Maybe low > light is a sensor problem? A standard Bayer mosaic sensor is a planar surface with a filter array on top of it. This means that the light at each of the photosites f

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy I've always thought that the Foveon sensor was looking for a way to win over other camera manufacturers to use their chip, but the price was too high (and the alternative technology more than good enough) so that no one wanted to pay the piper. Sigma bought the entire company (

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
You could do a better job with many aspects of this camera. Maybe low light is a sensor problem? On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Steven Desjardins > > >> That's the real frustration here. The IQ is wonderful and everything >> else is a mess. Even though I would get

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins That's the real frustration here. The IQ is wonderful and everything else is a mess. Even though I would get various degrees of results, I wouldn't hesitate to take any of my cameras out on a photographic mission. Not this one. I really like the concept behind the Fo

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Darren Addy
I've always thought that the Foveon sensor was looking for a way to win over other camera manufacturers to use their chip, but the price was too high (and the alternative technology more than good enough) so that no one wanted to pay the piper. Sigma bought the entire company (all shares) and I thi

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's the real frustration here. The IQ is wonderful and everything else is a mess. Even though I would get various degrees of results, I wouldn't hesitate to take any of my cameras out on a photographic mission. Not this one. On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > That's what

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Bruce Walker
That's what I thought, but that's about the only thing boggling in a positive way about this camera. It amounts to a one-trick boat-anchor for me. And did our very own Dave write this article? I saw so many spellos I started to collect them: catagory homogenious competative pubish creaping supris

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sigma_dp2m_review.shtml > > Incredible IQ from a P&S, everything else is a problem. If I had a > $1000 to spend I'd think about it (but probably end up with a K5). > Good article, nice compa

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Tim Bray
I have to say those image-quality comparisons are mind-boggling. -T On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sigma_dp2m_review.shtml > > Incredible IQ from a P&S, everything else is a problem. If I had a > $1000 to spend I'd th

Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Interesting camera. Brilliant on one or two points, mediocre on most others. I dislike the push button control layout as it is presented, but it might seem quite different when the camera is in your hands. The article cocks up the whole discussion of pixels, spatial resolution, antialiasing filter

OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sigma_dp2m_review.shtml Incredible IQ from a P&S, everything else is a problem. If I had a $1000 to spend I'd think about it (but probably end up with a K5). Good article, nice comparison images. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT The Luminous Landscape has an OM-D review.

2012-06-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oly is chic, Pentax is not. After the scandal, Oly even has a darkside ;-) On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, P. J. Alling > wrote: >> Very positive.  I just like to point out a bit of hypocrisy, the reviewer >> glosses over the fact that

Re: OT The Luminous Landscape has an OM-D review.

2012-06-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Very positive.  I just like to point out a bit of hypocrisy, the reviewer > glosses over the fact that Olympus m43 lenses are thin on the ground by > pointing out the lenses from other manufactures and huge number of legacy > lenses usable /wi

OT The Luminous Landscape has an OM-D review.

2012-06-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Very positive. I just like to point out a bit of hypocrisy, the reviewer glosses over the fact that Olympus m43 lenses are thin on the ground by pointing out the lenses from other manufactures and huge number of legacy lenses usable /with/ /an/ /adapter/. On the other hand pointing out the hu

Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-11-13 Thread Miserere
The NEX-5n has better high ISO performance (it uses the same sensor as the K-5); that has annoyed some Sonystas. I find the rest of the camera a big win and like it a lot, at least in theory, as I haven't handled one yet. That said, I will never buy into the NEX system due to the gargantuan lenses

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus, show roundup

2011-11-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Ken Waller" I'd say the vast majority of potential camera buyers are not near enough to a trade show like this to attend, so from that standpoint this issue is a non starter. It's Pentax's availability at retail outlets that should be a concern for Pentax. Their trade show presence is a

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-04 Thread Ken Waller
hotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: RE: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup From: "P. J. Alling" Unfortunately not in a really good way. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine Nielsen wrote: >Ouch. That's disappointing. But sums up nicely my nagging concerns >about Pentax as a brand... And I have a beautiful new k-5 in my camera >bag, so I'm not *that* concerned... But as someone invested in the >product, I find this lack of participation aggravating. This

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-04 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I'd say the vast majority of potential camera buyers are not near enough to > a trade show like this to attend, so from that standpoint this issue is a > non starter. > It's Pentax's availability at retail outlets that should be a concern for >

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-04 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:56:22PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: > I'd say the vast majority of potential camera buyers are not near > enough to a trade show like this to attend, so from that standpoint > this issue is a non starter. > It's Pentax's availability at retail outlets that should be a > conc

RE: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: "P. J. Alling" Unfortunately not in a really good way. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/pdn_photoplus_roundup_.shtml Last paragraph. I hope their lackluster performance at this trade show was just due to bad timing because of the Ricoh acquisition. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-04 Thread Christine Nielsen
Ouch. That's disappointing. But sums up nicely my nagging concerns about Pentax as a brand... And I have a beautiful new k-5 in my camera bag, so I'm not *that* concerned... But as someone invested in the product, I find this lack of participation aggravating. -c On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:51 AM,

Re: Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-03 Thread Brian Walters
On Friday, November 04, 2011 12:51 AM, "P. J. Alling" wrote: > Unfortunately not in a really good way. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/pdn_photoplus_roundup_.shtml > > Last paragraph. Well, at least they liked the cameras Cheers Brian ++ Bri

Luminous Landscape mentions Pentax in their Photoplus show roundup

2011-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Unfortunately not in a really good way. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/pdn_photoplus_roundup_.shtml Last paragraph. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mai

Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/21/2011 4:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom C wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml Among other things (pre-production model): ... "... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really sa

Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml > > Among other things (pre-production model): > ... > "... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really > satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise c

Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
"if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really satisfies." Very similar to what I told my wife before we married (32 yrs ago). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Tom C
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml Among other things (pre-production model): "... I can say that in photographic terms this camera certainly gives the impression of a compact fighting machine that sacrifices little for its diminutive size." "...

RE: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Alastair Robertson http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > I just feel funny saying "inexpensive" for a 10K camera.  Not my > world.  For all of our musings on this camera, this might be a good > move for Pentax.  MF cameras aren't held to the same cutting edge > electronic standards as the high e

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Thibouille
And 645D is marginally bigger sensor then Leica S2. 2010/9/6 Adam Maas : > It's not significantly more expensive than a 1DsmIII or D3x while > delivering about 75% more pixels and is far less expensive than a > Leica S2 (and you can get more than 4 lenses for it), and those really > are the only h

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just feel funny saying "inexpensive" for a 10K camera. Not my world. For all of our musings on this camera, this might be a good move for Pentax. MF cameras aren't held to the same cutting edge electronic standards as the high end FF and Dx bodies. It might be a healthy niche market that lead

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
It's not significantly more expensive than a 1DsmIII or D3x while delivering about 75% more pixels and is far less expensive than a Leica S2 (and you can get more than 4 lenses for it), and those really are the only high-MP options with weather sealing. -Adam On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Steve

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Lots of nature photographers (and their websites and mags) are really eager about this. Its a big sensor, lots of lenses, and weather sealing. And, as odd as it is to say this, its all relatively inexpensive. Especially with the old 645 A lenses out there. On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alasta

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Miserere
I think people are going to hold on to their 645Ds for a long, long time. Think an order of magnitude longer than Nikon D700's :-D --M. On 05/09/2010, Steven Desjardins wrote: > S. . . . How long will this 10K camera last? Even replacing > this every five years could get pricey. I w

Re: first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
S. . . . How long will this 10K camera last? Even replacing this every five years could get pricey. I wonder how fast Pentax will update it? If it uses the K-7 electronics and they come up with a better set, do they upgrade it? My rather convoluted thinking is that I wonder what the USED

first look review of 645D at luminous landscape

2010-09-05 Thread Alastair Robertson
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-645d-first.shtml Here's a hands-on first look report and video about a pre-production 645D from Nick Devlin for the online magazine Luminous Landscapes which is usually a pretty reliable source for sensible reviews. I, of course want one, b

Re: k10d pop photo/ luminous landscape vs dpreview

2006-12-18 Thread Micah Kleit
when that's available again), and I'm looking forward to using it. On Dec 18, 2006, at 10:59 AM, dick graham wrote: > > All of you who are disappointed in the k10d because of the dpreview > report > should check popphoto.com's report or reread the luminous landsca

Re: k10d pop photo/ luminous landscape vs dpreview

2006-12-18 Thread Bronek Kozicki
dick graham wrote: > All of you who are disappointed in the k10d because of the dpreview report I'd say to any and all of these who are disappointed in *camera* because of its very subjective *review* : there are plenty of JPEGs around - look at them, judge for yourself, trust your good photogr

k10d pop photo/ luminous landscape vs dpreview

2006-12-18 Thread dick graham
All of you who are disappointed in the k10d because of the dpreview report should check popphoto.com's report or reread the luminous landscape report. Pop Photo has long complained about the soft jpeg image quality of the ist d series. They said that the k10d not only proves Pentax belon

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: >When were you last in Scotland? It was appalling - got married there!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread David Savage
On 12/17/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There was a thread about this a year or two ago. Someone made the > > > comment that this sort of reaction was along the lines of eating a good > > > meal and complementing t

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread P. J. Alling
t; DSLR with a cheap kit lens on it all the time. To each his > own I guess > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:15 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List &g

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread P. J. Alling
--Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Mark Cassino >> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:56 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D >> >> >> I h

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There was a thread about this a year or two ago. Someone made the > > comment that this sort of reaction was along the lines of eating a good > > meal and complementing the chef on their pots and pans. :-) > > Har! I seem to recall that it

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread David Savage
On 12/17/06, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Savage wrote: > > > I show my photos now and again to people with no interest in > > photography, and the most common comment I get is, "WOW, you must have > > a really good camera". That makes me want to scream "I had something > > to d

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:15:10 -, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16/12/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> You'd be shocked how often I get asked if I'm a pro, just because of my >> (rather small) K100D and 16-45 DA zoom which is my standard carry >> config. > > Yeah but Ada

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Norm Baugher
fuckface William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Norm Baugher" Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a > K10D > > > >> Bill - this is an argument and you don't know shit. Get over it. Now, >> let me tell you ho

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Mark Cassino
Jens Bladt wrote: > > However, I believe the renaissance in fact started 2-3 years ago - with the > *ist series DSLRs. > If it hadn't been for the *ist D - I ,for one, would have considered leaving > Pentax. Now I'm looking foreward to getting the K10D. I'd peg the Renaissance back to the Zx/Mz l

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
A monopod and/or second body has the same effect here :-) Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:15 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D On 16/12/06, Adam

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/12/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: >You'd be shocked how often I get asked if I'm a pro, just because of my >(rather small) K100D and 16-45 DA zoom which is my standard carry config. Yeah but Adam, when I'm out working I carry a video camera the size of Scotland and I get asked

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/12/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: [re Norm Baugher] >huh? What's YOUR malfunction? He's got the measure of you, Norm. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Jens Bladt
ax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 14/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Very enthusiastic user report: >> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-10D.shtml > >It&#x

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Tourette's syndrome And then some. LMAO ! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > Tourette's syndrome > > Dave > > On 12/17/06, J. C.

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: > I show my photos now and again to people with no interest in > photography, and the most common comment I get is, "WOW, you must have > a really good camera". That makes me want to scream "I had something > to do with it too you know", but I just nod and say "It's alright" T

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > Bill - this is an argument and you don't know shit. Get over it. Now, > let me tell you how flawed you are... Hey moron boy, you forgotto use ALL CAPS. Get wi

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread David Savage
2006 10:00 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > > > fuckface > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Adam Maas
mber 16, 2006 8:15 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > > > Same reason they drive a SUV, but never go off-road. It's more > impressive. > > -Adam > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Thibouille
he 18-55mm but it seems like a > > reasonably > > > > good > > > > lens. Noticeable light fall off and softness in the in the > > corners > > > > wide > > > > open, but not bad stopped down to f8 or 11. But that's jus

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Jack Davis
> > observation. > > > > > > - MCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gonz wrote: > > > > Just as I suspected. I'll bet its the same pretty much > everywhere. > > > I > > > > k

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Norm Baugher
Bill - this is an argument and you don't know shit. Get over it. Now, let me tell you how flawed you are... Norm William Robb wrote: > > Its not an arguement, it's a discussion. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
huh? What's YOUR malfunction? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D fuckface J. C. O&#x

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Norm Baugher
fuckface J. C. O'Connell wrote: -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Thibouille
> know of at least 7 people personally in my area with DSLRs, only 1 > > of > > > them has more than two lenses and one has two. The rest all have 1 > > > > > lens. The person with more than two is a pdml subscriber so I met > > him > > > through the list,

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Jack Davis
> > lens. The person with more than two is a pdml subscriber so I met > him > > through the list, therefore he almost doesnt count in this quick > survey. > > > > Most of these people I know bought the camera with a kit lens or > bought > > their own higher

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/16/06 8:38 AM, "J. C. O'Connell", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who would they be impressing? Certainly not > anyone who knows anything about cameras. I > would be more impressed seeing a true high end > point and shoot then I would seeing an entry level > DSLR with a cheap kit lens on it all

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:15 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D Same reason they drive a SUV, but never go off-road. It's more impressive. -Adam J. C. O&#x

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread David Savage
John your argument below, while valid, is from the photographers perspective. I know lots of people who own D/SLR's and only have one lens. They simply got caught up in the "Pro's use SLR's, ergo SLR's must take better pictures" mindset, bought one with a cheap Sigma zoom & use it like a P&S camer

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Adam Maas
nd faster than supernormal zooms of the same range. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mark Cassino > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:56 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Luminous Landsc

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D Fuckface, this is where you get off the train. Piss off now. William Robb - Original Mess

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
cuss Mail List Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D I have a good selection of lenses on hand, even after i sold off the ones I bought as 'collectables' a few year ago. In reality, many go unused for months at a time (or longer.) I last used my A* 300 f4 on vacatio

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread Peter Loveday
> WRONG > > It's approximately 83.73257169% > Dave You obviosuly know NOTHING about professional pohotography, to anyone with half-a-clue, its obviously 83.73257168%. What were you thinking, man. - Peter > On 12/16/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OK, make that 85%. >> >> J

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread David Savage
WRONG It's approximately 83.73257169% Dave On 12/16/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, make that 85%. > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > Do you really think that 90% of DSLR buyers > > will never buy another lens? That's crazy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-16 Thread P. J. Alling
d capability and buying >>> SLR/DSLRS is about capabilities. I have >>> a pet peeve about when people always claim >>> "somebody else" or "90% of the people" >>> does this or that, when they don't. >>> jco >>> &g

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread P. J. Alling
mber 15, 2006 9:57 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > > > >>>> ROTFL Great slip :-)) >>>> >>>> >>> Still looking for the slip, but it sure was a buggered up >>&

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread William Robb
Fuckface, this is where you get off the train. Piss off now. William Robb - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > WRONG- I just disagreed with the absurd IMHO "90% > of DSLR buyers will neve

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > Albera and Sakatchewan have GST but no DBST > I wish. We have a thing called the E&H tax, which gets lowered a bit before an election campaign,then raise

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Cassino
almost doesnt count in this quick survey. > > Most of these people I know bought the camera with a kit lens or bought > their own higher end zoom. > > rg > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: "Adam Maas" >> Sub

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:11 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D Quoting "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I suppose > you pay sales tax at +0.5 dB on the dollar? INSANITY > ALERT!

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread David Savage
On 12/16/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" > Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > > > > And more than half of what I took were taken with the DA21... > >

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 5:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > This whole ar

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I was going to buy the 21 with the K10D, but ordered it early when I figured there might be a run on Pentax lenses when the K10D appeared. I'm happy I did so. :-) G On Dec 15, 2006, at 4:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > I almost added the 21 to the purchase of the K10 last night. > > May be in

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
2006 2:03 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > > > Canon offers FF (1Ds series, 5D), 1.3x crop (the 1D series high fps > bodies) and 1.6x crop (Digital Rebels, 30D and antescendants). EF-S > lenses are for the 1.6x cropp

RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-15 Thread David J Brooks
Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Cory Papenfuss > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:09 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: RE: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D > > > On Fri, 15 Dec 2006,

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