Aaron Reynolds wrote:
>Wasn't Kodak's entry into the DSLR market a decade ago?
Kodak DCS 100 - 1992.
Wasn't Kodak's entry into the DSLR market a decade ago?
-Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj: Re: Pentax 645D (WAS: Mamiya is history)
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:18 pm
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"It is su
Kodak's 14mp DSLR's did not use Kodak sensors. It used a third party
CMOS sensor. Kodak doesn't (or at least didn't at that time) make CMOS
sensors. Kodak's sensors were too expensive to use in a camera at that
price point.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/gray
On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
Nobody has MF cameras that are used commercially.
Har!
Phase One, Leaf, Hass/Fuji, etc. must all be imaginary then.
Don't forget Sinar. The Sinar-M autofocus SLR is a gorgeous camera
with some great Zeiss lenses.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If you buy a digi-back, you're stuck with the camera, but have a new back.
If you buy a dedicated digi-camera, your stuck with both the camera AND
the back.
Your argument doesn't make sense this time, Pål.
If this was such
- Original Message -
From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You forget that the digital back cost 2-3 times the price of a
digital camera. And that you are stuck with that same old camera.
You also forget that hardly anyone in the grand scheme of things are
using digital backs anywa
"It is supposed to use a Kodak sensor. Officially it is still
18Mp but some speculate it is really 22mp. Is there anything
wrong with the Kodak sensor?"
Kodak's entry in the DSLR market was apparently very noisy. I
have been concerned about this since I heard that Pentax would
use a Kodak sen
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I hope you are correct. But I keep worrying that it is a Kodak sensor that
Pentax will be using.
It is supposed to use a Kodak sensor. Officially it is still 18Mp but some
speculate it is really 22mp. Is there anything
If a Pentax dsLR can deliver a sensor twice the size of a canon
and with much better dynamic range, why shouldn't it be viable
if the price is right?
Pål
--
I hope you are correct. But I keep worrying that it is a Kodak
sensor that Pentax will be using.
Joe
"tweet the corporation?" Indeed, let's tweet the corporations.
Tweet software too.
Cheers,
Gautam
--
No, it's "o tweet the corporation." Sing it to the tune of "Oh
say can you see"
Joe
- Original Message -
From: "Ryan K. Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Okay. Assume you're making a living with commercial photography. That
means you had to buy a camera that could output digital for your clients.
If it's MF shooting, then you had to sell your Pentax 645 or 67 to buy
Pål Jensen wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Ryan K. Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Wow, you're really obsessed with Hassie dying. I absolutely hate to
say it, but Pentax seems more at risk- they're being chased into
lower and lower margins by the market leader (makes for great ist Dx
- Original Message -
From: "Ryan K. Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Wow, you're really obsessed with Hassie dying. I absolutely hate to say
it, but Pentax seems more at risk- they're being chased into lower and
lower margins by the market leader (makes for great ist Dx prices though)
Pål Jensen wrote:
Paul wrote:
Glass half full interpretation:
Now there is only Hasselblad to compete against in the MF digital
niche. A
smaller company can survive quite happily with a small percentage of the
overall market. Look at Apple who have had 3-5% of the PC market for
years.
Even
Paul wrote:
Glass half full interpretation:
Now there is only Hasselblad to compete against in the MF digital niche. A
smaller company can survive quite happily with a small percentage of the
overall market. Look at Apple who have had 3-5% of the PC market for
years.
Even pre iPod (but post iM
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So which way to view the remaining contenders in the market. All poised to
fail
due to a generally weak market or more opportunity to prosper due to
reduction
of competition in the market?
Neither. The failure of the M
On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:17 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
Apparently.
I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
Bummer.
So which way to view the remaining contenders in the market. All
poised to fail
due to a generally weak market or more opportunity to prosper due
to reduction
of competition in th
Technicaly, Mamiya sold the photo business to another company.
Doesn't mean the productus will disapear?
Not sure, would interesting ti know more about the deal.
2006/4/21, Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Apparently.
>
> I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
>
>
> Pål
>
>
>
--
---
"tweet the corporation?" Indeed, let's tweet the corporations.
Tweet software too.
Cheers,
Gautam
On 4/21/06, Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fdc.watch.impress.co.jp%2fcda%2fother%2f2006%2f04%2f21%2f3690
And the wise man simply enjoys his drink.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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David Savage wrote:
To the optimist, the glass is half full.
To the pessimist, the glass is half empty.
To
On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
My local dealer was telling me that rentals of the Hasselblad H
system camera with digital back were quite strong, so there's
definitely a market for a very high end, medium format class digital
camera.
Wouldn't your local dealers experience si
To the optimist, the glass is half full.
To the pessimist, the glass is half empty.
To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
Dave S
On 4/22/06, Paul Ewins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glass half empty interpretation:
> MF digital is dead. 35FF is the new Medium Format and Can
On 21 Apr 2006 at 20:28, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> My local dealer was telling me that rentals of the Hasselblad H
> system camera with digital back were quite strong, so there's
> definitely a market for a very high end, medium format class digital
> camera.
Wouldn't your local dealers exp
On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
Apparently.
I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
Bummer.
So which way to view the remaining contenders in the market. All
poised to fail
due to a generally weak market or more opportunity to prosper due
to reduction
of competition in the
On 22 Apr 2006 at 12:55, Paul Ewins wrote:
> Other strange things in the camera market. The Chinese have embraced digital
> as expected, but also Large Format cameras. Prices for premium lenses are
> rising on eBay and part of this is Chinese buyers.
Aside from emerging markets Sony Alpha could
Glass half empty interpretation:
MF digital is dead. 35FF is the new Medium Format and Canon owns it 100%.
The fate of Pentax rests solely on Samsung's desire to remain a player in
the DSLR segment.
Glass half full interpretation:
Now there is only Hasselblad to compete against in the MF digital n
On 21 Apr 2006 at 21:06, Pål Jensen wrote:
> Apparently.
>
> I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
Bummer.
So which way to view the remaining contenders in the market. All poised to fail
due to a generally weak market or more opportunity to prosper due to reduction
of competition in the marke
Indeed, what a shame ...
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
>
> I'm afraid he's correct.
>
> http://www.camera-news.com/
>
> ...plus a few more Japanese sources, including Mamiya's own web site.
>
> Pity, really.
Pål Jensen wrote:
Apparently.
I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
Nah. They've already been uplifted into digital-land.
The Mamiya death doesn't bode well for integrated backs in the MF world
though.
-Ryan
Pål
Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Samsung GX-1S gets a lackluster review on that link as well...
What else would you expect - a mere 5 months away from the next
Photokina - for a 6 MPix DSLR with specifications which weren't exactly
ground-breaking at the last show, two years ago?
Ralf
..
The Samsung GX-1S gets a lackluster review on that link as well...
http://www.camera-news.com/
Tom C.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Mamiya is history
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:30:20 +0200
Tom C
Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WHat's your source?
I'm afraid he's correct.
http://www.camera-news.com/
...plus a few more Japanese sources, including Mamiya's own web site.
Pity, really.
Ralf
--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: http://www.foto
A sky is falling prediction
Put that 645D money back in your wallets unless it sells for a bargain
basement price.
Tom C.
From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Mamiya is history
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:15:36 +0200
WHat's your source?
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fdc.watch.impress.co.jp%2fcda%2fother%2f2006%2f04%2f21%2f3690.html
WHat's your source?
Tom C.
From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Mamiya is history
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:06:24 +0200
Apparently.
I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
Pål
Apparently.
I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go
Pål
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