This is my favourite: everything you say must be true, but not everything
the is true must be said.
Frits
I humbly second the motion.
Tom C.
Doug wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not everything thought has to be spoken.
Not everything spoken has to be written down.
Not
Bill---
http://www.kenmarcamera.com/
Skip
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Kane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Trust. (Was;; Re: No Sale, Bill...)
Skip,
Do you have a url for Ken-Mar? Sounds lik
I beg to differ. As I mentioned a few weeks ago, when I received a Kiron
105/2.8 macro lens whose aperture wouldn't close, the first thing I did was
show it to my local dealer. Why? I wanted a leg to stand on if the dealer,
when informed of the defect, replied, "You must have damaged it. It was
I humbly second the motion.
Tom C.
Doug wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not everything thought has to be spoken.
Not everthing spoken has to be written down.
Not everything written down has to be published.
Not everything published has to be read.
That one goes into the quotation
Let's reserve highly critical comments for individuals who post something
mean-spirited. The way that well-intentioned Skip is being attacked, you
can be sure that I--and no doubt others--will stay mum about our own
suspect sellers.
From the Talmud:
Not everything thought has to be spoken.
Not
Paul wrote:
Let's reserve highly critical comments for
individuals who post something mean-spirited.
The way that well-intentioned Skip is being
attacked, you can be sure that I--and no doubt
others--will stay mum about our own suspect
sellers.
From the Talmud:
Not everything thought
Trust is always an issue. I recently sold a Vivitar Series 1 28-90 on ebay
to a guy in Alaska. He got the lens and sent me a message the same day that
it had a slow aperture wide open, and asked what I wanted it to do. I sent
him back a message saying that I had never seen that problem when
Skip,
Do you have a url for Ken-Mar? Sounds like I'd love to look them up and see
if they have anything I 'need.'
Bill
dosk wrote:
Fr: Skip
When I stated I would probably now buy 'used' only from eBay and from shops
like KEH and Ken-Mar, I inadvertently left out another very much
I agree with your assessment. If he were up front he would have called you
on the phone and discussed it with you. Why did he go to his local shop?
This should definitely raise all kinds of questions.
mkr
At 05:02 PM 4/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
Trust is always an issue. I recently sold a Vivitar
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:36:02 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not everything thought has to be spoken.
Not everthing spoken has to be written down.
Not everything written down has to be published.
Not everything published has to be read.
That one goes into the quotation archives. One of my
dosk wrote:
A Bill Visser (from "somewhere in Western Canada") came on this list to sell
things. Checked him out with some of the long-timers here; they'd not heard
of him before, or ever recall him posting anything here before.
H.
Well that certainly means he's suspect if we've
No good deed shall go unpunished.
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, you wrote:
dosk wrote:
A Bill Visser (from "somewhere in Western Canada") came on this list to sell
things. Checked him out with some of the long-timers here; they'd not heard
of him before, or ever recall him posting anything here
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No Sale, Bill...
No good deed shall go unpunished.
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, you wrote:
dosk wrote:
A Bill Visser (from "somewhere in Western Canada") came on this list to
sell
things. Checked him out with some of the long-timers here; they'd
I think if you're going to impugn someone's reputation *publicly* you
should produce some evidence when you do so.
tv
Bucky wrote:
I agree. I think the original post was a fair heads-up to the rest of us.
Any reasonably wary person would be a little suspicious of such behavior.
Well done
would ALSO be suspicious.
Cheers,
Mike
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom
Sent: April 2, 2001 7:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No Sale, Bill...
I think if you're going to impugn someone's reputation *publicly* you
should produce
-
From: "tom" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: No Sale, Bill...
I think if you're going to impugn someone's reputation *publicly* you
should produce some evidence when you do so.
tv
Bucky wrote:
I agree. I think th
Hey Tom, if you want I'll give you this guy's email address. Yes?
Maybe there wasn't really anything wrong with this guy's deal. (I did leave
that option open, didn't I? You know, that option you ridiculed with your
self righteousness?)
But maybe you could get a better deal from him.
I mean
I gotta agree with Tom on this one. Skip, the way I read it, lost out to a local buyer
and decided to scald Bill here in public for it. That's a poor method for solving a
problem.
I would, however, now that's it's out here, like to hear Bill's side of the story.
Doug
speaking as a list
I don't know now. Maybe I was wrong in reporting my transactions with that
seller the way I did.
It's true, the deal just didn't feel right to me... But I thought I tried to
present what happened in a non-slanderous manner. I was (and am now) not
wanting to hurt anyones reputation. I was trying
dosk wrote:
Hey Tom, if you want I'll give you this guy's email address. Yes?
I'm not that interested, but I'd be curious to see your correspondence
with him.
But maybe you could get a better deal from him.
I mean after all, a brand new SF1n for $115 and a Carl Zeiss-Jena 28-80mm
zoom
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