Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-03-13 0:32, John Sessoms wrote: I'm still trying to figure out what default setting to use for when the page wants to open a .PDF file. Best practice is prevent all, allow specific ones, in general. With PDFs, it's best to use a non-Adobe reader or stay absolutely up to date with th

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2012-03-11 23:01, steve harley wrote: just allow all scripts, but then when is see a site where i don't like, i can tell it to turn scripts off on that site Poor practice. A lot of the scripts that you most want to block, like the ones that execute "drive by" attacks o

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-03-11 23:01, steve harley wrote: just allow all scripts, but then when is see a site where i don't like, i can tell it to turn scripts off on that site Poor practice. A lot of the scripts that you most want to block, like the ones that execute "drive by" attacks on your computer, do

RE: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > John Sessoms > If I understand it, Google doesn't get ad revenue per user, but per > click. They don't get any revenue until you click on an ad. > > Actually, Google's ads don't bother me. I've never found them that > int

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread Tim Bray
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > Unfortunately, I suspect that the amount that the vast majority of users > would be willing to pay for this would be very close to zero. It depends what “this” is. You need to come up with a compelling list of what they get for what they spe

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen I wonder how much money in ads Google earns on each user. Or, phrased differently, I wonder how much I'd have to pay google each year to make it worth their while to treat me as the customer, rather than the product that they are selling? If it's on the order of $36/year, or

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-12 Thread Larry Colen
I wonder how much money in ads Google earns on each user. Or, phrased differently, I wonder how much I'd have to pay google each year to make it worth their while to treat me as the customer, rather than the product that they are selling? If it's on the order of $36/year, or a dime a day, it

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread P. J. Alling
John, I do most of my web searching through Starter Page, not really a search engine, but a front end to Google that sanitizes the search criteria of any references to your machine before it passes the search on the Google. Maybe that's unethical but I consider a lot of Google's policies to be

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Anthony Farr
On 12 March 2012 13:13, steve harley wrote: > on 2012-11-03 20:00 John Sessoms wrote > >> The problem I have been having is I couldn't find any way to get TO those >> global settings since Google changed. > > > > it is a pain to find; i eventually saw a link that said "Looking for Google > Search

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread steve harley
on 2012-11-03 20:45 John Sessoms wrote New question - What do I have to do to allow Google Maps without going back to the other problems? i'm on a new machine without Firefox installed yet, but in principle you just tell NoScript to let maps.google.com run JavaScript or you turn off NoScrip

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: steve harley on 2012-11-03 20:00 John Sessoms wrote The problem I have been having is I couldn't find any way to get TO those global settings since Google changed. it is a pain to find; i eventually saw a link that said "Looking for Google Search settings?" ? it goes here:

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread steve harley
on 2012-11-03 20:00 John Sessoms wrote The problem I have been having is I couldn't find any way to get TO those global settings since Google changed. it is a pain to find; i eventually saw a link that said "Looking for Google Search settings?" … it goes here:

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:00 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > The problem I have been having is I couldn't find any way to get TO those > global settings since Google changed. I think something in turning off > search history also turns off the ability to set preferences. Try: https://www.google.com

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan John, My Google doesn't do those things. Maybe you need to change some global settings. Regards, Bob S. The problem I have been having is I couldn't find any way to get TO those global settings since Google changed. I think something in turning off search history also tur

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark C : Over the last several months I've noticed that google is simply not as effective as it used to be. Same here. What I'm finding is that when I click on one of the links, there is a delay (sometimes a long delay) while Google processes the request. Very often these days

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread John Sessoms
John, get the NoScript add-on for Firefox and don't let Google run JavaScript. It'll work just the way you want. Ok, thanks. That looks like a start. Probably take a while to configure it so it will allow scripts to run where I need them to be allowed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@p

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Mark C
Over the last several months I've noticed that google is simply not as effective as it used to be. I've started using alternative search engines. Before google, alta-vista was the bomb. Before them, webcrawler (or was it web-bot?) and yahoo)... After google... if I knew that I'd call my broker.

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Postmaster
John, get the NoScript add-on for Firefox and don't let Google run JavaScript. It'll work just the way you want. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directi

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Tim Bray
It sounds like what you're griping about is Instant, the thing that keeps trying to leap in front of you with a guess as to what you want. I find it irritating on the 10%-or-so of occasions that it's guessing wrong. But what's weird is that I've never seen anything that stopped me typing in mid-q

Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, My Google doesn't do those things. Maybe you need to change some global settings. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > If anyone on the list has any influence what-so-ever with Google, I hope > they'll pass this along to someone there who has a fng clu

OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

2012-03-11 Thread John Sessoms
If anyone on the list has any influence what-so-ever with Google, I hope they'll pass this along to someone there who has a fng clue. If any such exists anymore. With the changes to Google's privacy policy have also come some changes in the way the search engine works. Google Hints, Google