Subject: Re: OT For the cyclists here
On 07/05/2013 3:51 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
On May 7, 2013, at 15:45 , Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for
aggravating injuries under some circumstances where no injury would
otherwise have
On May 8, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Adults in full possession of the facts and their faculties [...]
And where do you suggest we find such an adult?
:D
Cheers,
Dave (I'm staying out of this debate)
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;-)
cheers,
frank
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On May 8, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Adults in full
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:40:46AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488
It is indeed
On 08/05/2013 17:24, Larry Colen wrote:
An interesting case in point, research has shown that stricter
drunk driving laws result in a temporary decrease in drunk driving,
after a while, however, people go back to their old habits.
Not here. Substantial decrease in road deaths upon
From: David Mann
On May 8, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Adults in full possession of the facts and their faculties [...]
And where do you suggest we find such an adult?
:D
Cheers,
Dave (I'm staying out of this debate)
Back when I was in the National Guard they
On 7 May 2013, at 06:39, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/2013 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control
and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)
For some reason helmets give rise to the
as articulated by Bob W. I am all for
being libertarian when it comes to helmet laws for adults.
Cheers,
frank
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On 06/05/2013
themselves.
Gerrit
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There is an argument that one who dies early will cost the healthcare
On 07/05/2013 9:02 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
But if it is covered by insurance, it is still 'public' money. Insurance
companies get their money from... you guessed it.. people like you and me.
My premiums go to pay for someone else's incident.
Its not like the person who had the incident is
is that large amounts public funds rarely get into the hands
of one who is at fault in any motor vehicle accident.
Cheers,
frank
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I started using a helmet after a friend og mine reminded me that my head was no
longer just mine. I have three kids depending to s scary degree on the work I
do with my brain, so I should do something to protect it.
DagT
7. mai 2013 kl. 07:51 skrev Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au:
On 7 May 2013, at 17:39, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/05/2013 9:02 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
But if it is covered by insurance, it is still 'public' money. Insurance
companies get their money from... you guessed it.. people like you and me.
My premiums go to pay for someone
On 7 May 2013, at 20:32, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
On 7 May 2013, at 17:39, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/05/2013 9:02 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
But if it is covered by insurance, it is still 'public' money. Insurance
companies get their money from... you guessed it..
On Tue, May 07, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
The fact that your insurance premiums go into a pool and pay for the
collisions of others does not make it public money. You may choose
your insurance company, you may choose different levels of coverage
or you may choose not to pay
going to post a PESO so that he is not considered a non-photo
contributing troll :-)
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First off public money is tax money. That's who (in Canada at least) pays
for healthcare. Most of it, anyway.
The fact that your insurance premiums go into a pool and pay for the
collisions of others does not make it public money. You may
Bob W wrote:
In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for aggravating
injuries under some circumstances where no injury would otherwise have
occurred.
I believe this to be an urban legend. I have never seen any
peer-reviewed documentation of such effects (and I have
On May 7, 2013, at 15:45 , Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for
aggravating injuries under some circumstances where no injury would otherwise
have occurred.
I've seen this statement trotted out many times but have never
on 2013-05-07 15:51 Charles Robinson wrote
I mean, seriously, I can't even visualize/imagine the situation that would
demonstrate this to be true.
i can imagine it, but i doubt it's a significant counterweight to the benefits
of helmets; given the helmets secure fastenings and basic
on 2013-05-07 1:05 Bob W wrote
Second, people take part in all sorts of activities which damage their health
one way or another, from driving cars, to eating meat, drinking alcohol,
climbing mountains, and taking drugs. These things are all costing the public
purse, in many cases far more
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I own a car, therefor I pay insurance. Being able to choose which company
makes no difference as to who gets to use the money that I pay, I get no say
whatsover as to whose accidents get paid out or not. So really I have no
choice, I
Getting another PESO ready
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Relax!
You make it sound like huge sums of your money
On 07/05/2013 2:29 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
Who is now going to post a PESO so that he is not considered a non-photo
contributing troll :-)
All that will change is that you will be like me, an occasional photo
contributing troll.
bill
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On 07/05/2013 3:51 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
On May 7, 2013, at 15:45 , Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for aggravating
injuries under some circumstances where no injury would otherwise have occurred.
I've seen this statement
Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488
I wonder if there is a similar correlation between having sustained a
'severe
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Subject: OT For the cyclists here
Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488
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On 06/05/2013 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control
and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)
For some reason helmets give rise to the same intensity of discussions among
cyclists (not just on this list
There is bit more detail in this article, by the same author
http://theconversation.com/bike-helmets-an-emergency-doctors-perspective-13935
I do not ride my motorcycle or bicycle without a helmet.
Philip Northeast
www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
On 7/05/13 11:40 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
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