Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 Jul 2004 at 12:22, Arnold Stark wrote: Hi, I confirm that wide open the FA43 is as sharp as the other Pentax normal lenses. Stopped down to f5.6-11 it is on the same level, too. However, at f2.8 an f4 it seems to be sharper. However, the magic of this lens is not only about

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-05 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
RS My current lens kit has been formed by a process of distillation and the 43mm RS LTD wasn't magic enough to entice me to keep it even in glorious jet black. De gustibus non est disputandum. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-05 Thread Arnold Stark
So what is the lens that survived the distillation process in the 40-55mm focal length range? Actually, the choice of a lens depends much on the choice of the other lenses. If you like the 35/f2, the 43 would be too close, wouldn't it? If you have a 28mm wide-angle, the 43 fits much better.

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 Jul 2004 at 18:47, Arnold Stark wrote: So what is the lens that survived the distillation process in the 40-55mm focal length range? I retained the 31, and a series of 50mm lenses, the 43 would have filled a gap that really wasn't there for me photographically. 24mm is a problem FL for

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: The 43mm LTD is the only one of the series that I've owned and subsequently sold. IMHO it's surrounded by more hype than its performance deserves. It is small though and it performs far better than the similarly over-hyped M40/2.8. It is the sharpest lens I've ever used

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread That Guy
- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90) Rob wrote: The 43mm LTD is the only one of the series that I've owned and subsequently sold. IMHO it's surrounded

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread alexanderkrohe
Pål wrote: Rob wrote: The 43mm LTD is the only one of the series that I've owned and subsequently sold. IMHO it's surrounded by more hype than its performance deserves. It is small though and it performs far better than the similarly over-hyped M40/2.8. It is the sharpest

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
That Guy wrote: The problem with these people who put down a lens like this, is that if it isn't tack sharp wide open they can't find a reason to like it... Well, TG, it depends on how one uses the gear. I own several very high quality primes, and am considering others. I use them, though,

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Joseph wrote: Well, TG, it depends on how one uses the gear. I own several very high quality primes, and am considering others. I use them, though, mainly in low light, so I need them to be useable wide open. REPLY: This is an example where a minor criticsm is blown out of porpotion. I have

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90) This is an example where a minor criticsm is blown out of porpotion. I have used many Pentax prime lenses although I admit I haven't used them all. Of all fast Pentax

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Jul 2004 at 15:07, Pål Jensen wrote: Rob wrote: The 43mm LTD is the only one of the series that I've owned and subsequently sold. IMHO it's surrounded by more hype than its performance deserves. It is small though and it performs far better than the similarly over-hyped M40/2.8.

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Alan Chan
My honest opinion is that people who put down a lens like this have opinions that aren't worth trusting So you are the judge? Besides, almost all prime lenses are tack sharp when stopped down. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Alan Chan
It is the sharpest lens I've ever used something that deserves quite a lot of hype in my opinion. Right, the sharpest. Oh you meant FA43??? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: Besides, almost all prime lenses are tack sharp when stopped down. I just wish any of my other Pentax lenses were as sharp as the 43mm stopped down Pål

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: It's got to have more redeeming qualities than to be sharp by f5.6 or to have a so called 3D quality to make it a good lens from my perspective. Mine is tack sharp from F:2.8 and breathtaking from F:4 to F:8. Pål

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 Jul 2004 at 2:48, Pål Jensen wrote: Mine is tack sharp from F:2.8 and breathtaking from F:4 to F:8. OK, I've got some tack sharp lenses but I don't know if any of mine are breathtaking. Are the 31mm and 77mm LTD lenses also breathtaking stopped down? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: It is surprising they did not design the optics of the FA43 properly consider it is quite expensive, and their 50/1.7 is quite good. REPLY: Oh really? The 43 Limited is my favourite Pentax lens. It is a fantastic performer. It's wide open performance is not as good as the 31 or

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-03 Thread Nick Clark
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90) Alan wrote: It is surprising they did not design the optics of the FA43 properly consider it is quite expensive, and their 50/1.7 is quite good. REPLY

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-03 Thread Alan Chan
Other than the wide open sharpness (really a f2 lens in practice), distortion was a little high as well. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Oh really? The 43 Limited is my favourite Pentax lens. It is a fantastic performer. It's wide open performance is not as good as the 31 or the 77 but

RE: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-03 Thread Alan Chan
But photodo CAPA Japan do not rate it that well. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan When it first came out the 43mm f/1.9 ltd was crowned as the world's best standard lens by Amateur Photographer in the UK, displacing their previous best, the Contax 50mm f/1.4 Planar.

Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
Gianfranco queried: How's the handling? On the shelf it looked quite big mounted on the *ist D. I read on the KMP (thanks Boz!) that it weighs almost the same as the 24-90, but it is a bit longer. It handles fine. The zoom ring is quite large and easy. The focus ring seems fine to me. I don't

Re: 43 Limited (WAS: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90)

2004-07-03 Thread Alan Chan
Pretty much what I have felt about these 2 lenses too. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan The 43mm LTD is the only one of the series that I've owned and subsequently sold. IMHO it's surrounded by more hype than its performance deserves. It is small though and it performs far better than the

Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-02 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi guys and gals, I'm in the mood to purchase a 16-45, but I'd like to hear some first hand experiences from those who own it and made a side by side comparison with at least one of the lenses above. I recall somebody said that the 16-45 is definitely sharper than the 24-90 at similar FL, is it

Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-02 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 02.07.04 16:54, Gianfranco Irlanda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, I'm in the mood to purchase a 16-45, but I'd like to hear some first hand experiences from those who own it and made a side by side comparison with at least one of the lenses above. I recall somebody said

Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-02 Thread jtainter
Gianfranco, the DA 16-45 is a fine lens. I have tested it formally against the excellent FA 20-35. It is definitely in that class, and perhaps just a bit sharper than the 20-35. I have used the FA 24-90 but have not formally tested it. My impression is that the DA 16-45 is in the same class as

RE: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-02 Thread That Guy
The 43 is widely known to be soft wide-open -That Guy -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90 Interestingly - according to these tests FA* 85

Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-02 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Giafranco, Hi Sylwek, I don't have DA 16-45/4 yet, but you could be interested in this link (just use translator like babelfish): http://www.pictchallenge.com/BxuREV7.html Thanks!! I was looking for something of that kind too. And I'm even able

Re: Opinions wanted: 16-45 vs. 20-35 vs. 24-90

2004-07-02 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gianfranco, the DA 16-45 is a fine lens. I have tested it formally against the excellent FA 20-35. It is definitely in that class, and perhaps just a bit sharper than the 20-35. I have used the FA 24-90 but have not formally tested it. My impression is that the DA 16-45