2009/4/11 Bruce Dayton :
> Perhaps another way to think of it is that portraits are regularly
> asked for and paid for by the subject. Character studies may not be.
> I'm sure in different parts of the world, there is a difference of
> meaning of these words. And, at times, even with different me
boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
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>>> Bob,
>>> Another red herring!
>>> Ths
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>> Bob,
>> Another red herring!
>> Ths Krupp shot is obviously heavily staged as a por
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> Bob,
> Another red herring!
> Ths Krupp shot is obviously heavil
Bob W wrote:
That's a very interesting difference in how we use the words. So, to give an
example, you would not consider Arnold Newman's photograph of Krupp to be a
portrait? If so, it goes very strongly against the way the word is
understood in British English at the very least.
Karsh's pictu
Bob,
Another red herring!
Ths Krupp shot is obviously heavily staged as a portrait with the
subjects cooperation.
Is it a character study? Perhaps the subject and photographer thought so, maybe
even the general public in 1962. Today in 2009, I see a pretty
picture of an older executive.
Regards,
From: Rick Womer
You might consider a crop right down the middle of his nose,
and across at the lowermost edge of his lip. ?That would give
more emphasis to the eye and the half-smile, which is where
the power of the shot is.
I don't know why, but for some reason that reminded me of a scene f
In a message dated 4/8/2009 2:47:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
Gang,
On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
As Boris would say, please be brutal...
Best,
Jostein
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Interesting shot,
That's a very interesting difference in how we use the words. So, to give an
example, you would not consider Arnold Newman's photograph of Krupp to be a
portrait? If so, it goes very strongly against the way the word is
understood in British English at the very least.
I have never noticed such a d
Around here, the meaning of portrait and character study are much
more like Bill has said. Perhaps it has meaning based on the intent.
In a character study, one is trying to bring out something more about
the person than just the exterior view. In a portrait one is trying
to show a pleasing view
> 2009/4/9 William Robb :
> > Had you called it a character study, then I would have commented
> > differently. You called it a portrait, and that had a great
> deal to do with
> > my response to it.
>
> hmm...
> That's interesting. Didn't cross my mind that the word "portrait"
> primed people th
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> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, AlunFoto wrote:
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>> From: AlunFoto
>> Subject: PESO - portrait of a young man
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>> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 5:46 PM
>> Gang,
>> On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w..
2009/4/9 William Robb :
> Had you called it a character study, then I would have commented
> differently. You called it a portrait, and that had a great deal to do with
> my response to it.
hmm...
That's interesting. Didn't cross my mind that the word "portrait"
primed people that much. Or maybe t
- Original Message -
From: "AlunFoto"
Hope you do not take offence by this opinion, despite its rough
presentation. But it's veering away from the photo presented. Thanks
for sharing your sentiment on the photo. I do appreciate that,
Christine. It certainly got me thinking.
No offenc
Had you called it a character study, then I would have commented
differently. You called it a portrait, and that had a great deal to do with
my response to it.
William Robb
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From: "AlunFoto"
Subject: Re: PESO - portrait of a young man
Christine,
I
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, AlunFoto wrote:
> From: AlunFoto
> Subject: PESO - portrait of a young man
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 5:46 PM
> Gang,
> On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
Christine,
I asked for brutal comments on this pic, but I'm afraid I will have to
return some brutality in my response this time.
You ask if there's not more to this teenager than his pimples. I take
that as a rhetoric way of saying that the presence of his pimples
keeps you from seeing him as any
2009/4/9 frank theriault :
> I think this was a good idea but it just needs a bit more space.
Thanks Frank.
I snipped your argument, but it's well taken. I see your point.
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2009/4/9 William Robb :
>
> Fix and plasticize are not the same thing.
Indeed not. I have removed the worst volcanoes, and decided that
removing more would remove a bit of his identity. Maybe I'm driving
into the other ditch...
Jostein
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From: "AlunFoto"
2009/4/9 Christine Aguila :
Hi Jostein: I agree with Bong about the too tight focus. Also, I don't
know if it's shadows or what, but it looks like there's a rash around your
subjects mouth, which, well, doesn't seem to flatter him that well. HT
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:46 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
> Gang,
> On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
>
> As Boris would say, please be brutal...
>
> Best,
> Jostein
Well, Jostein, I looked at this one last night and didn't know w
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From: "AlunFoto"
Subject: Re: PESO - portrait of a young man
2009/4/9 William Robb :
Fix the skin.
No. I'm not Becky Carter. :-)
Fix and plasticize are not the same thing.
Use a longer lens.
Longer than 300 mm? You must be kidding. I w
hehe.
Fortunately for the kids, it seems Becky is trying to migrate to a
different customer base. Unfortunately, there are others filling her
niche. There was a thread here not too long ago linking to some. :-(
Jostein
2009/4/9 mike wilson :
> AlunFoto wrote:
>
>> Gang,
>> On unfamiliar ground h
AlunFoto wrote:
Gang,
On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
As Boris would say, please be brutal...
Looks like photorealism is not appreciated today so
Paging Becky Carter!
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2009/4/9 Bong Manayon :
> Hi Jostein,
>
> I like my portraits tight, but I think this is too tight...I would
> like to see the other eye :-)
>
> Or, if for artistic reasons or whatever that you only have to work
> with one eye, I would frame a little more to the left; more of the
> cheeks less of t
2009/4/9 Christine Aguila :
> Hi Jostein: I agree with Bong about the too tight focus. Also, I don't
> know if it's shadows or what, but it looks like there's a rash around your
> subjects mouth, which, well, doesn't seem to flatter him that well. HTH.
> Cheers, Christine
You're entirely right
2009/4/9 William Robb :
>
> Fix the skin.
No. I'm not Becky Carter. :-)
> Use a longer lens.
Longer than 300 mm? You must be kidding. I was on the close-focus
limit of the 300, btw.
> You've shot rather tight, though I think it could work if the focal length
> was longer.
Why? :-)
Jostein
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Guess I asked for that one...
2009/4/9 Ken Waller :
> UGH !
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message - From: "AlunFoto"
>
> Subject: PESO - portrait of a young man
>
>
>> Gang,
>> On unfa
UGH !
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: "AlunFoto"
Subject: PESO - portrait of a young man
Gang,
On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
As Boris would say,
- Original Message -
From: "AlunFoto"
Gang,
On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
As Boris would say, please be brutal...
Fix the skin.
Use a longer lens.
You've shot rather tight, though I think it could work
rom: "AlunFoto"
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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: PESO - portrait of a young man
Gang,
On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
As Boris would say, ple
Hi Jostein,
I like my portraits tight, but I think this is too tight...I would
like to see the other eye :-)
Or, if for artistic reasons or whatever that you only have to work
with one eye, I would frame a little more to the left; more of the
cheeks less of the nose and the eye a bit on the right
Gang,
On unfamiliar ground here. Human portrait in b/w...
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-189
As Boris would say, please be brutal...
Best,
Jostein
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