On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:58:09 -0500, you wrote:
Mike Ignatiev wrote:
The problem is that PayPal instituted this policy
without notification.
This is of course is a serious problem, no matter
whether the policy change itself is good or bad. I
guess I misread your original posting.
Best,
That is most interesting to me, because I just sold three bodies and a couple
of lenses, as well as a protein skimmer, on eBay, some with written waivers of
insured shipping from international buyers (dumb on their part, IMHO).
Thankfully the feedback is all in - everything was received as it
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, John Mustarde wrote:
Mishka, they DID notify us before doing it.
ann
Ann - they did NOT notify me, and I did not issue any agreement to new
terms of service. This change in Terms of Service took place Oct 16,
which is just a few days ago.
IIRC, the notification
They sent out the notice about 90 days before the change went into effect.
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Chris Brogden wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, John Mustarde wrote:
Mishka, they DID notify us before doing it.
ann
Ann - they did NOT notify me, and I did not issue any agreement to new
terms of service. This change
This is totally stupid to blame a business for
covering itself from online fraud liabilities! Guess
what: if were there no fraud, there wouldn't have been
this issue either.
They provide a service, with nothing coming close
in terms of cost and convenience. I suppose, they run
into problems
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Len Paris wrote:
I find it comforting to know that I, as a buyer, now have some
protection through eBay and PayPal. I find it interesting that Paul
protests so much.
It makes it impossible to sell items in person to people who pay with
PayPal (unless you want me to ship
The problem is that PayPal instituted this policy
without notification.
This is of course is a serious problem, no matter
whether the policy change itself is good or bad. I
guess I misread your original posting.
Best,
Mishka
John, PAYPAL (Which is, after all, ebay) DID notify the sellers - they
updated their user
agreement and told us all to read it and agree again -- I can't remember
exactly when this
was, and I'm as sloppy as the next about reading fine print, but they did
tell us ahead of time.
I get annoyed at
Mike Ignatiev wrote:
The problem is that PayPal instituted this policy
without notification.
This is of course is a serious problem, no matter
whether the policy change itself is good or bad. I
guess I misread your original posting.
Best,
Mishka
Mishka, they DID notify us before
Are you sure that you didn't just blow the notice off without reading it?
Len
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Subject: Re: PayPal Beware - seller tracking number mandatory for your
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:30:58 -0700
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Subject: RE: PayPal Beware - seller tracking number mandatory for your
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:53:27 -0800 (PST)
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Len Paris wrote:
I find it comforting to know that I, as a buyer, now have some
protection through eBay and PayPal. I
could get arount the rules if that were the
case!!
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From: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2003 14:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PayPal Beware - seller tracking number mandatory
for your safety
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Len Paris wrote
I just found out PayPal recently modified their Terms of Service
(October 16). Unknown to me, they created a loophole which allows
them to take MY money and give it to a crafty and fraudulent buyer,
calling it a refund.
Here's the deal: any buyer can simply email PayPal and say they did
not
Why would any seller have a problem with it? Just make sure you add
the extra postage for the tracking # for all your final amounts.
This way the buyer pays for the added peace of mind. I think it's a
good move, for both, the seller and the buyer.
And, of course, for Ebay's PR.
Just make sure you
- Original Message -
From: mishka
Subject: Re: PayPal Beware - seller tracking number mandatory for your
safety
Why would any seller have a problem with it? Just make sure you add
the extra postage for the tracking # for all your final amounts.
This way the buyer pays for the added
Whether or not you use paypal, it sure is a good thing to use tracking
slips - it only costs
the buyer another 50 cents - and if you tell them up front you are doing
it there should be
no problem. I only insist on the buyer paying insurance if I'm mailing
something breakable, though.
The
Well, anything I sell via Ebay is shipped insured. So it automatically has a
tracking number. Therefore, this is a non-problem to me. Shipping insurance does
not protect the buyer, it protects the shipper.
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John Mustarde wrote:
I just found out PayPal recently modified their Terms of Service
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