Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
I didn't notice the misspelling. What spelling grade do I get? Jack ;-)  - Original Message - From: David J Brooks To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
ed to their published results as being "subjective." Suppose they are referring to the converting of measured results to print sizes. Jack   - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:47 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pe

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > >> I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even >> allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they >> demonstrate pitiful performance. >> >

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Back in the antediluvian age of film, Modern Photography, or maybe it was Popular Photography after they absorbed Modern, adopted the 43mm limited as their reference lens because it was the best all around lens they had ever tested. That lens hasn't changed since then really, so testing criteri

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
;depression" is really "dismay." Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:38 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, I also had a "very critical" attitude (to say it politely) t

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
; Jack > - Original Message - > From: Bulent Celasun > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30 AM > Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests > > Are you aware that you can only compare the results of "similar" > (MP-wise) camera

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
12:30 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Are you aware that you can only compare the results of "similar" (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 "bo

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
That's completely contrary to my impression of test results for both Canon and Nikon. Jack  - Original Message - From: Larry Colen To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM,

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
Are you aware that you can only compare the results of "similar" (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 "body" higher than much more expensive C/N bodies. Bulent ---

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even > allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they > demonstrate pitiful performance. I looked at a few Pentax lenses, then went and looked at some ni

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even > allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they > demonstrate pitiful performance. > > I dare anyone to make me feel better? When they publish s

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
these particular > testers. > > Comments appreciated, Igor. > > Jack > > > - Original Message - > From: Igor Roshchin > To: PDML@pdml.net > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests > > > Jack, >

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
, Igor. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http://stans

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
Without going back to check, I believe there were 3 ugly pages. Jack   - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:38 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests It appears that only a very few Pentax lenses have been

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
OK, that did it. Thanks, Dave! ;-)) Jack   - Original Message - From: David Savage To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:25 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis wrote: > > I dare anyone to make me feel

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Igor Roshchin
Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http://stans-photography.info/ . While, naturally, it might be skewed and not objective, what ultimately matters is your own experience with the lenses. For the lenses that you alread

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Their test results seem to run counter to most other sites, so there's that. On 11/20/2012 5:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
It appears that only a very few Pentax lenses have been tested. On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even > allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they > demonstrate pitiful performance.

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread David Savage
On 21 November 2012 07:23, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:25 , David Savage wrote: > >> On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis wrote: >>> >>> I dare anyone to make me feel better? >> >> >> > > Me and my shared work-cube environment only got a gl

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:25 , David Savage wrote: > On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> I dare anyone to make me feel better? > > > Me and my shared work-cube environment only got a glimpse at that before closing. Warning, y'all. (I will save

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread David Savage
On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis wrote: > > I dare anyone to make me feel better? :-P DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis wrote: > >> I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even >> allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they >> demonstrate pitiful performance. >>

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis wrote: > I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even > allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they > demonstrate pitiful performance. > > I dare anyone to make me feel better? I guess it all depen

DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance.   I dare anyone to make me feel better?   Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Pentax lens tests

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Re: Popular Photography Pentax Lens Tests

2002-05-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
Thanks for the Grandfather Mountain invite, Mark. One of these times Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: Popular Photography Pentax Lens Tests

2002-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >FA 80-200 f2.8. Incredible. Sharp wide open across the zoom range. Can I >afford this lens? Do I want to carry it's weight? Once you've used it and seen the results, the weight becomes a non-issue. Price? Well, it's a non-issue *after* you've bought it

Popular Photography Pentax Lens Tests

2002-05-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
I ordered some old tests. I generally rate lenses for sharpness by their performance at 8 x 10 inch enlargements, the maximum size produced by my Epson 870. Here's some of the interesting things I learned: FA Power Zoom 28-105 f4-5.6. We all know this is a great lens, Well, it's even surprisingly