Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-26 Thread Lon Williamson
William Robb: trainer of dogs and models. Is there a correlation between the two? Youth wants to know! William Robb wrote: ... When I am training a new model, I start with 35mm and work through to medium format, and then large format over several sessions before I expect to get anything good

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? William Robb: trainer of dogs and models. Is there a correlation between the two? Youth wants to know! Positive reinforcment, my friend. And never ask either to do more than you

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
Bob S.: I can say that the A85mm f1.4 is sharper, but the size frightens small children and dogs, not to mention the relatives you might want candid portraits of. You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? Does the front element makes it? I mean,

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? No, they all hide in the corner when the f1.4 comes out. ;-) Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K camera be fine while a 85/1.4 on a

RE: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Jens Bladt
. juni 2003 04:25 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? Hi Jens, as I have written before, I have done my own resolution etc. tests of portrait lenses: See http://www.arnoldstark.de/pentax.htm Here are the results in line pairs/mm averaged from f2 to f11 and from

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? The A85/1.4 hood is monstrous also, but with a cooler shade, the lens is not that frightening I think. A nice hood I found for it is the one for the Hexanon 85-210/3.5. I can even reverse

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
William Robb wrote: Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) cheers, caveman

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) You would. William Robb

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is why the people skills of a photographer are very important for things like wedding photography. Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non professional

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. Knowing your veneration to professional everything... did you get a professional bride too ? cheers, caveman

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Lon Williamson
Where I find 100mm too long is shooting something like a wedding reception, which I've done 3 times now. Inside, there is a significant chance that some guest will pop into the foreground. Outside, the 100 works well. I just shot a wedding this weekend, and slapped on the A35-70mm f4 because

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi I own both the 2.0/85 and the 2.8/105. Nither of them are very good (sharpness/resolution) and I hardly ever use them. I guess my best portrait lenses are Tokina Pro II 2.6-2.8/28-70mm (sharp) and the latest (repurchased recently - off ebay/USA) the K2.5/135mm. Regards Jens

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Alan Chan
Where I find 100mm too long is shooting something like a wedding reception, which I've done 3 times now. Inside, there is a significant chance that some guest will pop into the foreground. Outside, the 100 works well. I just shot a wedding this weekend, and slapped on the A35-70mm f4 because

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Andre Langevin
Hi Jens, as I have written before, I have done my own resolution etc. tests of portrait lenses: See http://www.arnoldstark.de/pentax.htm Here are the results in line pairs/mm averaged from f2 to f11 and from centre to corner: M85 65 K85 61 A*85 62 FA*8566 FA77 69 My

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-24 Thread Anthony Farr
No matter how good the sample is, it simply cannot exceed the performance that its designers bestowed on it. The 'on-paper' design is the best it can be, manufacturing tolerances or wear-and-tear will always move the lens to a lower performance level. regards, Anthony Farr - Original

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread Fred
Hi, Carlos. Probably the M 85 mm. f:2 is an excellent choice for portraits. The M 85/2 is a pretty good portrait lens, despite its unpretentious seeming design, and is the most economical Pentax K-mount 85. The lens I use the most for portraits is a K 85 mm. 1.8 and I love it. [and] The

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Blakely
K85/1.8 Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Prime portrait lenses - which one? I find my M100 f2.8 to be a tad long in many portrait situations, and am pondering the purchase of an 85mm. The cheapest is probably the M85 f2. I expect I'd find it good enough since I'm