Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-22 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Interesting idea, Bill. While I used to use XP-1s variation in contrast, higher speed in contrastier lighting, I never thought of doing so rigorously as would need to be done to approximate the zone system. I don't see why it wouldn't work with a little serious testing. --Tom William Robb wrot

RE: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-22 Thread Rob Brigham
D] Subject: Re: Chromogenic B&W Film Rob Brigham wrote: > > Surely the phrases 'extremely wide exposure latitude of XP2' and 'No > matter which film speed is chosen, standard C41 processing is > recommended.' confirms that the exposure lattitude of the neg is

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 21, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Chromogenic B&W Film > I used to use XP-1 extensively. Souped in the XP-1 > developer (worked better than C41 on XP-1. XP

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Alin Flaider wrote: >I do expose rolls at the same speed (usually 400 or 800), but that > is for consistency reasons only - to ease the lab's job. Ocassionally > however, I did shoot several frames at a different speed and the lab > delivered those images with a vague tint of blue or sepia on

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Rob Brigham wrote: > > Surely the phrases 'extremely wide exposure latitude of XP2' and 'No > matter which film speed is chosen, standard C41 processing is > recommended.' confirms that the exposure lattitude of the neg is wider > than paper so over or under exposing a single frame by a stop or t

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Mark Dalal
Shel wrote: >I can see shooting an entire roll at one EI, 200, 400, 800, and >getting consistent results, but not shooting as you've >suggested. I've tried playing around with using a different EI. I shot a few rolls at 160. I was really displeased with the results. Scanning the film was difficu

RE: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Rob Brigham
where the processing needs to be different for different ratings. I didnt believe in the idea at first, but you are confirming it, not disproving it! Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 May 2001 15:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Rob Brigham
be 18% grey by default. Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 May 2001 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chromogenic B&W Film While I haven't shot chromogenic B&W since 1987, I distinctly remember more than one revi

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > While I haven't shot chromogenic B&W since 1987, I distinctly remember more > than one review citing the frame-by-frame flexibility, at least for Ilford > XP-1. I can't recall "what happens" to the +2 or -2 ISO frames; they > werern't rendered less usable, just diffe

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
I don't believe it was about grain.Contrast, perhaps? What do the chromogenic filmmakers' websites say? Is this claim currently being made? Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: Re: Chromogenic B&W Film [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Indeed, a key att

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Unfortunately, I caught that ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life" - Phillip Jones Griffiths Rob Studdert wrote: > > On 21 May 2001, at 9:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Indeed, a key attribute of these films > is that you need not commit the > entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, > you can choose your setting, frame > by frame, without fear that you will under- > or overexpose the other frames. That doesn't sound right, and is

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 May 2001, at 9:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the > entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame > by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. Gee Paul, I hope S

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. Alin Flaider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, none is 400 ASA preci

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Alin Flaider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Actually, none is 400 ASA precisely. Both Kodak and Ilford are > variable 100-800 ASA speed films, with a "marketing" peak of 400. One > can shoot at any speed he likes better the grain, tone range, > contrast, etc. What th

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Dalal" Subject: Re: Chromogenic B&W Film > William Robb: > > >FWIW, I think XP-2 is Crap with a capital "C". > >I did a microscope analysis of the grain of normally processed > >T400CN and Ilfor

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-20 Thread tom
Mark Dalal wrote: > > 3) Each film has its own use. I don't think XP-2 is suited to landscape, > street, or still-life. But it makes a pretty darn good portrait film. I've > used it for model shots and I've been extremely pleased with it in that > regard. Interestingly enough, I have a b+w prin

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-20 Thread Alin Flaider
Shel wrote: SB> Does anyone know why all the chromogenic B&W film on the market is SB> 400 speed? Why not some other speed? Actually, none is 400 ASA precisely. Both Kodak and Ilford are variable 100-800 ASA speed films, with a "marketing" peak of 400. One can shoot at any speed he likes bett

Re: Chromogenic B&W Film

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 19, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: Chromogenic B&W Film > Does anyone know why all the chromogenic B&W film on the market is > 400 speed? > Why not some other speed? I suspect the emu