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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim
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Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: "Damaged" images
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD
> > Controllers in modern cards are designed so as to balance writes
> > across the card. That coupled with good error detection and
> > correction routines should make the card last forever under normal
> > load. That is assuming "normal" error rate. Could happen that the
> > memory on the cards i
On 3/15/2011 11:29 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
SD cards have controllers inside as well. This is "hard data" from an
Apacer datasheet of 2005: "The SD Memory Card includes an intelligent
controller that manages interfaced protocols and data storage and
retrieval as well as Error Correction Cod
> Kris, I am somewhat confused now. What you say makes perfect sense
> except one detail. I thought that CF cards were those that had
> controller on board. The SD cards as I understand don't have controller
> on board. Therefore it makes certain sense (may be not too much sense,
> but still) to wr
It is also my obligation to remind you that I am under resolution
(thankfully, it has nothing to do with the United Nations) not to use
smileys...
:-/
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On 3/15/2011 9:12 AM, alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Boris Liberman
You also had an issue with me braking too hard nearby Haifa University.
I am a problematic fellow...
Don't take the blame for general Israeli traffic behaviour. :-)
I refuse not to take the
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You also had an issue with me braking too hard nearby Haifa University.
I am a problematic fellow...
Don't take the blame for general Israeli traffic behaviour. :-)
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On 3/14/2011 4:58 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
I am sure "every time" is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader
that can mount it properly without need for specialized drivers
should be enough. I have seen the problem a long time ago with a
crappy no-name memory card. Have been using Sandis
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 09:16:11PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
> On 11-03-14 9:07 PM, steve harley wrote:
> >
> >of course reformatting frequently will increase the number of
> >writes of those directory blocks, and thus wear those blocks out
> >even faster
>
> Yeah, exactly, which is one reason wh
On 3/14/2011 10:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
I had an issue with one particular card inside an OptioS in 2005. It
was while visiting Boris in Israel, too. Maybe he's got something
contagious in the air or something. :-)
-But never had a problem with any DSLRs or cards.
The *istD use CF cards, btw. Du
On 3/14/2011 5:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Reasonable universal readers cost like $10-$15 here. I am sure it
is even less across the ocean. No need to buy a new Mercedes in
order to wrap into it a CD player, you know.
Yeah, kinda silly. We huma
On 3/14/2011 10:25 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
Now whether cards become bad with time or not is mostly dependant on
the hardware/software controller on the card itself - depending on
how good it is at choosing places to write files and how good it is
at marking the bad spots on the card - the
On 11-03-14 9:07 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 18:37 , Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-03-14 5:21 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block
On 11-03-14 4:29 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera
could not display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating
that there were two images that were "unsupported or damaged."
Should I exp
On 2011-03-14 18:37 , Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-03-14 5:21 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block will
immediately be remapped, but the dama
On 11-03-14 8:52 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:29:27PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not display.
After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 09:52:39PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote:
> 2011/3/14 Boris Liberman :
> >> I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
> >> starting to go flaky. -T
> > I second that. Haven't had an image that was "damaged" by the camera since
> > *istD and 2004.
>
> I had a
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:29:27PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
> On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
> >
> >In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
> >display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
> >two images that were "unsuppo
On 11-03-14 5:21 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block will
immediately be remapped, but the damage is already done. Not physically
damaged
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bob W wrote:
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Krisjanis Linkevics
>> > But
>> > formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an
>> iffy
>> > card and let you continue using it.
>> >
>> > -bmw
>>
>> Some
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Krisjanis Linkevics
> > But
> > formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an
> iffy
> > card and let you continue using it.
> >
> > -bmw
>
> Some facts and common sense:
I'm sorry, but you're going to
Dario Bonazza wrote:
Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
The *istD use CF cards, btw
CF?
Choose among Carbon Fiber, Compact Flash and Cute Fuck :-)
I apologize, let's make it:
Choose among Carbon Fiber, Compact Flash and Cute F**k :-)
Dario
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Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
The *istD use CF cards, btw
CF?
Choose among Carbon Fiber, Compact Flash and Cute Fuck :-)
Dario
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On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
> The *istD use CF cards, btw
CF?
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On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:29 PM, steve harley wrote:
> for me it happens approximately once per 10,000 images; it's annoying, but so
> infrequent that it doesn't trouble me greatly; i have a Transcend class 6 and
> an ADATA class 10, both 8 GB and both in steady use for about two years
Thanks, Ste
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block will
immediately be remapped, but the damage is already done. Not physically
damaged of course, but files could appear to be un
On 2011-03-14 14:25 , Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
What formatting these does should be exactly nothing (or equivalent to deleting
files) but formatting is done with a piece of software on the host computer (or
camera) and therefore can introduce more writes/deletes than necessary.
What people f
On 11-03-14 4:25 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
But
formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an iffy
card and let you continue using it.
-bmw
Some facts and common sense:
SD memory is NAND flash which means the following things:
1) manufacturers ship it with errors already
2011/3/14 Boris Liberman :
>> I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
>> starting to go flaky. -T
> I second that. Haven't had an image that was "damaged" by the camera since
> *istD and 2004.
I had an issue with one particular card inside an OptioS in 2005. It
was while
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not display.
After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were two images that were
"unsupported or damaged."
Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally?
for
> But
> formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an iffy
> card and let you continue using it.
>
> -bmw
Some facts and common sense:
SD memory is NAND flash which means the following things:
1) manufacturers ship it with errors already on the chip;
2) it deteriorates over ti
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> On 3/14/2011 4:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Be sure and do a full format of your card after grabbing the images off
>> of it.
>
> Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera every
> time the images were copied from
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> On 11-03-13 7:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
>> In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
>> display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
>> two images that were "unsupported or damaged
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
> I am sure "every time" is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that can
> mount it properly without need for specialized drivers should be enough. I
> have seen the problem a long time ago with a crappy no-name memory card. Have
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Reasonable universal readers cost like $10-$15 here. I am sure it is even
> less across the ocean. No need to buy a new Mercedes in order to wrap into it
> a CD player, you know.
Yeah, kinda silly. We humans are prone to that, more than we
On 11-03-14 10:58 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
I am sure "every time" is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that can mount it
properly without need fo
It may be more important to get a new card than a new reader.
-Tim
On Mar 14, 2011 6:58 AM, "Eric Weir" wrote:
>
> On Mar 13, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
>
>> Also if by chance you have other software see if you can bring up the images
>> using it and also you may want to replace the
Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
I am sure "every time" is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that
can mount it properly without need for specialized driver
> Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
> every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
>
> Boris
I am sure "every time" is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that can
mount it properly without need for specialized drivers should be enough. I h
On 3/14/2011 4:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Be sure and do a full format of your card after grabbing the images off
of it.
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
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On 11-03-13 7:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not display.
After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were two images that were
"unsupported or damaged."
Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally? Or does
On 3/14/2011 4:23 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
Thanks, Boris. I've been holding out for the moment when I can afford
to upgrade my MacBook to one with the card reader built in. Maybe
it's time to go ahead and get a reader. Doesn't look like I'm going
to be upgrading my computer soon.
Reasonable univers
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Eric, it may be a good reason and good time to buy a card reader. They are
> inexpensive.
Thanks, Boris. I've been holding out for the moment when I can afford to
upgrade my MacBook to one with the card reader built in. Maybe it's time to g
On 3/14/2011 3:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
I don't have a card reader. I import directly from the camera via USB
cable. Could I check the card while it's in the camera? Could I use
Mac's Disk Utility?
Eric, it may be a good reason and good time to buy a card reader. They
are inexpensive.
Boris
On Mar 13, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
> Also if by chance you have other software see if you can bring up the images
> using it and also you may want to replace the SD card just in case it is
> getting ready to go bad. Someone else may be able to fully answer this but
> you may also
On 3/14/2011 3:23 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
starting to go flaky. -T
I second that. Haven't had an image that was "damaged" by the camera
since *istD and 2004.
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I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
starting to go flaky. -T
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
>
> In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
> display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there we
Also if by chance you have other software see if you can bring up the images
using it and also you may want to replace the SD card just in case it is
getting ready to go bad. Someone else may be able to fully answer this but
you may also try to check the card for any bad sectors by doing a defrag o
It's rare, but it does happen.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
>
> In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
> display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
> two images that were "unsupported or damaged."
>
> Sho
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