Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-29 Thread Peter Alling
You can usually find full size CR-R's for a lower per unit price than floppies and from my experience Floppies go south much more often than any other storage media that I've worked with. The ANSI standard for longevity of a floppy is 6 mos. of service, if I remember correctly, (that's 6 months

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-28 Thread David A. Mann
William Robb wrote: I have come to think of any digitally stored information as being transient, at best. How about we all start buying slide recorders as backup devices for our digital camera files? :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Jul 2002 at 18:32, David A. Mann wrote: How about we all start buying slide recorders as backup devices for our digital camera files? :) I have one for sale (Polaroid HR-6000), don't trust these digital storage devices :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel

RE: Digital doubts

2002-07-27 Thread John Coyle
I think I'm with Bob on this. Nowadays, for colour print work, which is mainly family stuff and some community organisation record shots, I will have the films developed and scanned to CD at my local Frontier lab. These are quite good enough for small prints and use in local newspapers and

RE: Digital doubts

2002-07-27 Thread David A. Mann
John Coyle wrote: Don't laugh, one major training organisation I worked with lost three months class records because no-one had checked that the tape backups were Ok. Telecom NZ once installed a software upgrade in one of their exchanges. Everything went fine for several months, until

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-27 Thread Rfsindg
Cameron, At only 10-20K to back-up every day, why use anything but a floppy? The bigger issue is whether to put a week or month on each back-up floppy, and where to put the floppies so they aren't stolen along with the computer! Regards, Bob S. Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
On the digital future, Bob Keefer opined: I really wonder whether the average home photographer really wants to put that much energy into making pictures of the kids' birthday party Hi Bob, I think you've nailed it. As much as many of us PDMLers enjoy working in the digital darkroom, I

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread ERNReed
In a message dated 7/25/2002 8:09:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you're absolutely right that most folks don't want to go to all that trouble if the goal is a couple dozen 4x6 prints of vacations, birthday parties, and so forth. Hell, ~I~ won't usually go

RE: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
ERNR wrote: I agree if digital can't deliver ... but right now it certainly can't? The important part of my quote you left off was at a competitive price, by which I mean competitive with disposable cameras and low-end point-and-shoot. It ain't there yet, and I don't see it getting there for

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread ERNReed
In a message dated 7/25/2002 9:50:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ERNR wrote: I agree if digital can't deliver ... but right now it certainly can't? The important part of my quote you left off was at a competitive price, by which I mean competitive with

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Don Williams Finland
- Original Message - From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Digital doubts Bob, I don't work the same way with digital. I have two printers. One is an HP Photosmart 100 that I use for making an index print and then I use

Re: Digital Doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Bmacrae
In a message dated 7/25/2002 10:19:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I have Kodak's headstone in my back garden at the moment - really. Any offers on the inscription? Also any offers to come take it away seriously considered Kind regards Peter

RE: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Alan Abbott
ERNR wrote: from what I've seen -- you put it in the machine, download the data, push the friendly little buttons to place your order, remove your card and take it with you. Certainly that's how it works at the semi-pro lab where I actually do get prints made. I wish to god we had a service

Re: Digital Doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Bmacrae
Or, how about this one: eastman kodak's defunct who used to ride a watersmooth-silver (halide) stallion so we may photograph onetwothreefourfive pidgeonsjustlikethat jesus they made some fine emulsions and what i want to know is how do you like your dominant market share mr fuji? - This message

RE: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Paris, Leonard
. Len --- -Original Message- From: Don Williams Finland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital doubts How do you keep the Epson jets clean? I found that I used so much ink cleaning the bloody thing that it became

RE: Digital Doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Paris, Leonard
competetively, with fewer operators needed than mini-labs. I think Kodak has a ways to go before their demise. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Doubts

Re: Digital Doubts

2002-07-25 Thread gfen
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here lies Kodak...and why not? See, you can push our film to 3200. Wouldn't it make more sense to rate it at 3200? But..ours goes to 3200! -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin -

Re: Digital Doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Bmacrae
In a message dated 7/25/2002 1:00:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See, you can push our film to 3200. Wouldn't it make more sense to rate it at 3200? But..ours goes to 3200! If I told them once I told them a thousand times, it should read, Kodak Processing first,

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Pat White
One of the big selling points of digital is that it's supposed to be very cheap, but it doesn't always seem that way. I recently did a studio shoot with a friend of mine. He was using a Fuji S1 Pro, and I was using the MZ-S. Oddly enough, the Fuji Pro has no PC outlet, so he had to use its

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Len Paris
is swinging more towards digital. Len --- - Original Message - From: Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Digital doubts One of the big selling points of digital is that it's supposed to be very cheap, but it doesn't

Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-25 Thread Herb Chong
How do you keep the Epson jets clean? I found that I used so much ink cleaning the bloody thing that it became a financial burden. It sits here doing nothing now. D which model? i find that i use my 1270 about once a week to print something and that is enough. i never need to clean the jets