RE: F 50/2,8 macro (follow up)

2005-10-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18. oktober 2005 18:10 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro (follow

RE: F 50/2,8 macro (follow up)

2005-10-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 22:22 To: pentax list Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: First time I will be following a ebay auction, quite exiting. Sorry Tim

Re: F 50/2,8 macro (follow up)

2005-10-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. Scandinavia, November and macro... Be sure you get yourself a sturdy tripod. ;-) Godfrey On Oct 18, 2005, at 5:33 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm back from work, and I thought I'll keep you informed on my first steps at ebay. I did not exit ;-) Here is the item

Re: F 50/2,8 macro (follow up)

2005-10-18 Thread Jostein
Hey, it's a PDML meet. :-) Something will be arranged, I'm sure. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro (follow up) Hmm. Scandinavia, November

Re: F 50/2,8 macro (follow up)

2005-10-18 Thread François Colou
I think 156 euros is a very good price, congratulations ! I bought mine 210 euros. Considering its qualities, this lens worth a lot more IMO. It is wonderful as a normal lens too. François Le 18 oct. 05 à 14:33, Tim Øsleby a écrit : I'm back from work, and I thought I'll keep you informed

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a nonsense children's game, It's not nonesense to us children! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread dagt
fra: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] TØ This reminds me: Jostein and other fellow Norwegians, how TØ about making a Fiddly Bits PDML soon? JØ I'm game. I remember Bergen in October/November, though... :-) We don't have to meet in Bergen at this time of year. I'm going to Oslo in first

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 11, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 13 Jan 2004 at 6:58, Christian Skofteland wrote: OK I performed some practical tests with various combinations of lens TC and tubes. In all cases I used the full 57mm 3 tube set with the lens

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:35 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: My quick test with the 50mm seems to indicate the same thing. Camera-tubes-converter-lens nets greater magnification than camera-converter-tubes-lens. Would reversing the lens make any diffrence? It might, but likely not. I'm using

Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Jostein
: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:19 AM Subject: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) TØ This reminds me: Jostein and other fellow Norwegians, how TØ about making a Fiddly Bits PDML soon? JØ I'm game. I remember Bergen in October/November, though... :-) We don't have to meet in Bergen

RE: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
) -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12. oktober 2005 19:47 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) I'm in town. Saturday is somewhat unclear yet, but I'll get back to that. Vigelandsparken sounds good. I'm

Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread mike wilson
? (Thud!) Ouch! . Probably not. - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:19 AM Subject: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) TØ This reminds me: Jostein and other fellow Norwegians, how

Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
I'm looking into flight prices. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
2005 21:29 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) Jostein wrote: I'm in town. Saturday is somewhat unclear yet, but I'll get back to that. Vigelandsparken sounds good. I'm a total newbie at concert photography, so that could be interesting too

RE: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12. oktober 2005 22:06 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) I'm looking into flight prices. Cheers, Cotty

Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Serious? Maybe. Depends on cost and timings. Will get back. Prolly just me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 22:07 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: F 50/2,8 macro There is no need to worry about me. My pulse is still low. It's not a 135/1,8 a FA* 80-200/2,8 or something

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
PROTECTED] Sent: 12. oktober 2005 23:44 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: F 50/2,8 macro I said there is no reason to worry about me going into ebay. But now there is. The auction is closing in a few hours, the price is far below what the man asked for at first, so I believe now

Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: On 12/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Serious? Maybe. Depends on cost and timings. Will get back. Prolly just me. About £15 return from Newcastle for the weekend 11Nov to 13Nov. Total cost £50 w/taxes. Temptation.

RE: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12. oktober 2005 22:38 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) On 12/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Serious? Maybe. Depends

RE: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. oktober 2005 00:13 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro) Cotty wrote: On 12/10

Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: About £15 return from Newcastle for the weekend 11Nov to 13Nov. Total cost £50 w/taxes. Temptation. That's on a barge hauling coal. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Does that change the hole picture for you? (Sorry about using the word picture with a non literal meaning here at PDML) It's not the word 'picture' I'm worried about here. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: Non Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-12 Thread mike wilson
50/2,8 macro) Cotty wrote: On 12/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Serious? Maybe. Depends on cost and timings. Will get back. Prolly just me. About £15 return from Newcastle for the weekend 11Nov to 13Nov. Total cost £50 w/taxes. Temptation.

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread pnstenquist
I think it's too much. You can usually find the M 50/4 macro for less than a hundred dollars. To my mind, a wide aperture is not necessary on a macro. It makes focusing a bit easier, but with the limited DOF you get when shooting macro, wide open is rarely an option. Paul 300 US$ is a bit

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
I tried to get the prize down, in vain. The seller told me had second thoughts about it, and now is selling it at ebay. I'm following the auction, but will not bid (haven’t got paypal). Doesn't really matter, in fact my wallet gave me a pleased purring sound. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 20:21 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: F 50/2,8 macro I tried to get the prize down, in vain. The seller told me had second thoughts about it, and now

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Fred
300 US$ is a bit too much for this lens, isn't it? Anybody got any comments on this lens? I think that $300 USD is a bit steep, perhaps unless it is brand new. However, the F 50/2.8 Macro (or the optically identical FA version) is bitingly sharp - it's really an incredibly sharp lens.

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread P. J. Alling
underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 20:21 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: F 50/2,8 macro I tried to get the prize

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: First time I will be following a ebay auction, quite exiting. You don't know how true this is :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 21:54 To: pentax list Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: First time I will be following a ebay

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: First time I will be following a ebay auction, quite exiting. Sorry Tim, I was playing on your typo. I find a lot of auctions worth exiting the room for. Like over-priced nonesense Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 22:22 To: pentax list Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: First time I will be following a ebay auction, quite exiting. Sorry Tim, I

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: LOL!!! Ok, go on, laugh on my expense. I never understand jokes on my expense. BTW: You are an evil man, making fun of my English ;-) I know, I know. I'll try and learn some Norwegian so you can have a chuckle. Schlikkepotte! (ask Jostein)

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 23:05 To: pentax list Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's too much. You can usually find the M 50/4 macro for less than a hundred dollars. To my mind, a wide aperture is not necessary on a macro. It makes focusing a bit easier, but with the limited DOF you get when shooting macro, wide open

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW. Jostein, please tell me what this English speaking ignorant is talking about when he is referring to Shlikkepotte (off list, or on list), why does he spell it like a German word?. He is, as you may have guessed, referring

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:21 AM Subject: RE: F 50/2,8 macro I'll give you something to work at: Tommeltott, Slikkepott, Langemann, Gullebrand, og Lille Petter Spillemann. Tummetott, Slickepott, Långeman, Gullebrand

Fiddly Bits PDML (Was RE: F 50/2,8 macro)

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW. Jostein, please tell me what this English speaking ignorant is talking about when he is referring to Shlikkepotte (off list, or on list), why does he spell

RE: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. oktober 2005 23:44 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F 50/2,8 macro On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's too much. You can usually find the M 50/4 macro for less than a hundred dollars. To my mind

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Why would one use a 50mm macro lens at infinity? Almost everyone has a fast fifty for non-macro work. Paul On Oct 11, 2005, at 5:44 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's too much. You can usually find the M 50/4 macro for less than a

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Oct 2005 at 20:23, Paul Stenquist wrote: Why would one use a 50mm macro lens at infinity? Almost everyone has a fast fifty for non-macro work. I often use my excellent A50/2.8 Macro as a one lens kit when I go out for a casual bush-walk, it's great for capturing flowers and bugs plus

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 11, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Why would one use a 50mm macro lens at infinity? Almost everyone has a fast fifty for non-macro work. I often use my excellent A50/2.8 Macro as a one lens kit when I go out for a casual bush-walk, it's great for capturing flowers and bugs

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Oct 2005 at 18:23, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I find the A50/2.8 Macro OOF rendering a little less than perfect for general pictorial use, but it's a very good lens for a lot of work and a fine macro performer. It's bokeh has never really bothered me but maybe it's the type of shots I

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 11, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Question: I have a set of extension tubes, a 2x-S teleconverter, and the A50 Macro. I'm trying to make the greatest magnification possible out of the set. I presume the way to do this is to assemble Camera-Tubes-Converter-Lens ... eh? from

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tom Reese
Paul Stenquist asked: Why would one use a 50mm macro lens at infinity? Almost everyone has a fast fifty for non-macro work. True but if you don't need the extra speed and you don't want to carry an extra lens then the 50mm macro gives you awesome performance plus macro capability. Tom Reese

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Tom Reese
Godfrey DiGiorgi asked: Question: I have a set of extension tubes, a 2x-S teleconverter, and the A50 Macro. I'm trying to make the greatest magnification possible out of the set. I presume the way to do this is to assemble Camera-Tubes-Converter-Lens ... eh? I'll be experimenting, but

Re: F 50/2,8 macro

2005-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 11, 2005, at 7:40 PM, Tom Reese wrote: I think you get more magnification if you put the camera - converter - tubes - lens if you do the math and assume 50mm of extension: your way is equivalent to a 100mm lens with 50mm of extension yielding something like 1:2 magnification (half