The biggest problem there is that most of the people making claims have an ax to
grind. We have temperture records going back only to 1865 or so. The next best
record is core samples from trees, but that only goes back a thousand years or
so except for a few species that are limited to isolated
eenhouse gases, or a combo of
the two).
regards,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You should move to Canada for a couple of years, just to experience some
>~real~ cold.
>
>Last winter (a cold one by Toronto standards) we had several weeks where the
>morning temp was around -25, with a wind chill of around -40C. The daily
>highs
-40C and -40F are the same.
Bill
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From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)
> I remember temps like that when I was stationed in Kansas (Forbes
I remember temps like that when I was stationed in Kansas (Forbes AFB), only
they were F rather than C. But then it was much colder in the old days, why I
remember walking to school in snow up to my knees, now it hardly gets over my
ankles. (grin)
frank theriault wrote:
You should move to Canad
s is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:30
On 9/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>omigosh Cotty, is that supposed to be funny?!?!?! -10?!?!? In the very
>coldest time in our winter, it gets down to a very minimum of 2 degrees C at
>night time, but will always still get to around the 20-25 degrees C mark
>during the day.
I understand.
of tvs car with you for 7, nice and ROOMY... Might even
bring my pillow... ;-)
tan.
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:45 AM
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uld hear would be my
teeth chattering and my knees knocking together! lol...
BTW, where the heck do you find eucalyptus trees in ENGLAND?!?!?!?!
tan.
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To: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday,
Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>One word of warning. If you come here you mustn't throw boomerangs in
>Kew Gardens. I did that earlier this year and nearly took some poor
>woman's head off. She was hiding behind a eucalyptus (honest) and the
>boomerang just seemed to seek her out. I never
: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)
On 8 Dec 2003 at 8:55, mike wilson wrote:
Doesn't it come under the convention about "cruel and unusual
punishment"?
Probably. My problem is that if I travel half way around the world I can'
ile I was in the Hemisphere, I may be able to take a little detour if
funds allow it...
tan.
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:55 AM
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Hey, Tom,
> >
> > You got roo
Arkansasians claim Kansas is properly pronounced Ka-saw.
--
Bill Owens wrote:
What I can't understand about this is, why isn't Arkansas pronounced
Ar-can-sas instead of Ar-can-saw?
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:25 AM
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On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
Georgetown, Washington? Figures.
There&
>
> Cotty, on a side note - where in England are you, and how long is the flight
> to the US? How much approx. does it cost? I have ALWAYS wanted to shoot in
> England/Ireland, I am very Celtic inclined, and love all of that old stuff.
> PLUS, my best friend lives in London and just had a baby,
What I can't understand about this is, why isn't Arkansas pronounced
Ar-can-sas instead of Ar-can-saw?
Bill
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:06 PM
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>
uot;Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > h, Georgetown, Washington - those Americans sure were inventive when
> > naming their towns lol...
>
> Yep, Norfol
Rob, I am flying into NYC or DC - both of which are AU $1800 cattle class...
tan.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:02 AM
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> On 8 Dec
thinking
that while I was in the Hemisphere, I may be able to take a little detour if
funds allow it...
tan.
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re:
OMG! LOL - NO COMMENT!
tan (who is *trying* to compose herself!)
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:55 AM
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On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
>of the hot water though!)
There is a compromise here, modesty aside.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
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On 8 Dec 2003 at 8:55, mike wilson wrote:
> Doesn't it come under the convention about "cruel and unusual
> punishment"?
Probably. My problem is that if I travel half way around the world I can't
justify staying less than a month given that I can't write it off as a business
cost and the air-fa
Cotty said: "Any and all all offers entertained :-)"
h, you could be setting yourself up with that one there mate
fairygirl.
.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: GFM Attendees (updated)
> On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
> >I was thinking for Cott
Sounds great to me! I'll be there with my party shoes on! lol...
tan.
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:49 AM
Subject: RE: GFM Attendees (updated)
> > -Original Mes
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
>somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
Georgetown, Washington? Figures.
There's the Sunday night as well, if we are returning to DC then,
although I dare say that it'll be spent forming an orderl
I think Dupont circle would be better (wink, wink; nudge, nudge)
Christian
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
> somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
>
> tv
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
> >In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in
> DC before GFM so
> >I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
>
> I'm arriving at Dulles on th
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
>>In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
>>I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
>
>I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time I get around
>
On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
>I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time I get around
to Tom's it'll be nearly 8pm ? and I'll b
My wife and I have already registered.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
All --
It's scary how many excellent shooters are listed here!
Also kinda intimidating... ;-)
stephen the self-conscious
tom wrote:
TV
Annsan
Doug
Bill
Cesar
Mark
Rittenhouse
Cotty
Stan
ERN
A lurker or 2
Jostein
Frank
Adelheid
Desjardins?
Jerome?
Doug Franklin?
Len?
Herb?
Cory Or Brenda?
Tom Ree
Put me down as definite. We mailed the registration this morning.
Suggestion for those who are going:
Make it worth your while. Great Smoky Mountain National Park is only a few
hours from GFM. We're taking a full week and heading for GSMNP from GFM.
Tom Reese
Rob, if you start some acrobatic lessons now, you may be flexible enough by
June that you can stow away in my suitcase!
tan.
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From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: Re:
On 7 Dec 2003 at 21:36, tom wrote:
> TV
> Annsan
> Doug
> Bill
> Cesar
> Mark
> Rittenhouse
> Cotty
> Stan
> ERN
> A lurker or 2
> Jostein
> Frank
> Adelheid
> Desjardins?
> Jerome?
> Doug Franklin?
> Len?
> Herb?
> Cory Or Brenda?
> Tom Reese?
> Bruce?
> Tanya?
This is torture :-(
Rob Studdert
I wasn't planning on attending, but judging by the huge turnout, I may have
to adjust plans and go!
In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uh oh,
I've heard rumors that if XXX Pentax users get together in the same
place that the space/time continum will collapse in on itself . . .
let's keep it to 29 or under guys :-)
IL Bill
P.S. Wouldn't it be great to get 60 LX users together in the same
place at the same time?
On Sunday,
God, I hope not!
Nor is there likely to be such a gathering again, I reckon.
cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Looks like in excess of 20 attending, and
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: GFM Attendees (updated)
Looks like in excess of 20 attending, and maybe closer to 30. Have there
ever been that many PDML'ers together in one place at the
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