Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-31 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Expect that 20m viewers to drop off considerably when they start charging. I did last time they experimented with this. My sense is this time it's not an experiment. Many may be in a different place about it, but I've decided it's worth it. I

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Expect that 20m viewers to drop off considerably when they start charging. On 1/31/2011 10:17 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The Times website, for example, attracts about 20 million viewers a month. It doesn't yet generate enough revenue to make up

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-31 Thread Eric Weir
On the subject, perhaps many/most of you will already of seen the NYTs photos of the situation in Egypt, but just in case here's a link to a album. Not surprisingly, they've had some dramatic images since this started. http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/?hp Tthe photographer who produced the album l

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-31 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > The Times website, for example, attracts about 20 million viewers a month. > It doesn't yet generate enough revenue to make up for losses suffered by the > print edition, but it's revenues are growing I gather they're going to start chargin

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Doh..."its revenues are growing." Damn apostrophes sneak in there every now and then:-). On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Most major dailies are much less profitable than they once were, and the good > papers don't answer to shareholders. For example, the Ochs-Sulzberger fa

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Most major dailies are much less profitable than they once were, and the good papers don't answer to shareholders. For example, the Ochs-Sulzberger family has owned The New York Times for115 years, and there are impenetrable barriers between ad sales and editorial. There are still quite a few n

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's probably true for TV. I was thinking about newspapers. It was only speculation, however. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> Wasn't is always?  Most major papers worked on a "for profit" basis, >> and went ou

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-30 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Wasn't is always? Most major papers worked on a "for profit" basis, > and went out of business when they didn't make money. These days here > are so many sources competing for your attention. Remember yellow > journalism? Sensationalism

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wasn't is always? Most major papers worked on a "for profit" basis, and went out of business when they didn't make money. These days here are so many sources competing for your attention. Remember yellow journalism? Sensationalism has become the norm, unfortunately. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 4:

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-30 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > > > (I have some uncharitable views towards the owners and direction of today's > newspapers and magazines, but I'll keep those views to myself for now :-)) I think that uncharitable is a good word for this, because the news is now looke

RE: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-29 Thread Bob W
> > I think digital photography helps keep photojournalism alive--no film > processing and quality of cameras has greatly improved. Today, we > have some amazing news images on the net and in the newspapers. > > True, but it's also one of the reasons serious photojournalism is in > jeopardy: Ever

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-29 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Photojournalists are not less relevant; in fact, I think they are needed more > than ever these days. Agreed. > I think digital photography helps keep photojournalism alive--no film > processing and quality of cameras has greatly improve

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Photojournalists are not less relevant; in fact, I think they are needed more than ever these days. However, the problem is the arena in which they have historically functioned--newspapers and magazines--has been considerably diminished. Give the photojournalists back their playing field, all

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-27 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 27, 2011, at 3:13 PM, mike wilson wrote: >> PSTFUML? > > Pentax shut theI'm sure you get the gist..list Thanks, Mike. I was apprised of it off list. As I said to that person, in my case I imagine sometimes people wish they *had* chosen that name. -;) ---

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-27 Thread mike wilson
On 24/01/2011, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Bob W wrote: > On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of "middle" ≥ -1, >>> ≤ 2 ) >>> >>> Yeah, I've noticed. Freaked me out when I first joined up and >>> immediately started receiving 200-300 messages a day. Couldn

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-24 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Bob W wrote: >>> On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of "middle" ≥ -1, >> ≤ 2 ) >> >> Yeah, I've noticed. Freaked me out when I first joined up and >> immediately started receiving 200-300 messages a day. Couldn't bring >> myself to even look. But when

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/1/11, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > I didn't mean to start a discussion MARK. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:/

RE: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-23 Thread Bob W
> > On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of "middle" ≥ -1, > ≤ 2 ) > > Yeah, I've noticed. Freaked me out when I first joined up and > immediately started receiving 200-300 messages a day. Couldn't bring > myself to even look. But when I did I found it was just all the back- > and-fo

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > It's a book review by the New Republic's Art Critic, deconstructing a > postmodernist work criticizing a lack of moral relevance in today's criticism > of photojournalism . . . . Well, I said I didn't mean to start a discussion, but I'm not ab

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2011-01-21 19:39, Eric Weir wrote: Interesting article on the relevance of photojournalism today in this week's New Republic. Its a review of the introduction to the catalogue of the Cartier-Bresson exhibit organized by the Museum of Modern Art that is now in San Francisc

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of "middle" ≥ -1, ≤ 2 ) Yeah, I've noticed. Freaked me out when I first joined up and immediately started receiving 200-300 messages a day. Couldn't bring myself to even look. But when I did I

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > . . .Actually, though, I didn't mean to start a discussion ... On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of "middle" ≥ -1, ≤ 2 ) stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSU

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir
On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > He did note with a touch of wistfulness that his great friend, > "Photojournalism JOBS", has not been seen for quite some time, and seems to > have passed from the scene. I think that's one of the motivations of the article: When photojournal

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
"Photojournalism" says he's still alive and doing quite well. Reports of his death have, to coin a phrase, "been greatly exaggerated." He did note with a touch of wistfulness that his great friend, "Photojournalism JOBS", has not been seen for quite some time, and seems to have passed from the

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-21 Thread Darren Addy
I dislike the writer of that article even before finishing the opening paragraph. All one has to do is take a sentence like this one to know we aren't dealing with an intellectual giant here, let alone anyone who understands the subject they claim to be writing about: "Or are they mostly regarded a

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-21 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-01-21 19:39, Eric Weir wrote: Interesting article on the relevance of photojournalism today in this week's New Republic. Its a review of the introduction to the catalogue of the Cartier-Bresson exhibit organized by the Museum of Modern Art that is now in San Francisco and a new book o

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-21 Thread David Parsons
Sure it's relevant. It won't be the same style that we are used to, just like PJ from the 80's and 90's isn't the same as from the 50's or 30's. There will always be some sensationalism to it. That's kind of the point. Most likely, it will be bloggers who have a specific focus that have the tim

Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Good luck. On 1/21/2011 7:39 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Interesting article on the relevance of photojournalism today in this week's New Republic. Its a review of the introduction to the catalogue of the Cartier-Bresson exhibit organized by the Museum of Modern Art that is now in San Francisco and a

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-13 Thread Jack Davis
well(?). That was in about 1982. Jack --- On Thu, 1/13/11, P. J. Alling wrote: > From: P. J. Alling > Subject: Re: Is a P5 worth anything? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 7:07 AM > On 1/12/2011 3:03 PM, frank theriault > wrote: &

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-13 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/12/2011 3:03 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Saw this ad on craigslist: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, a

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-12 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Saw this ad on craigslist: > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html > $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash > > I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, and the 50/1.7 is > probably worth the

Re: Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-10 Thread Jens
I own one (P50) too. Very nice. It's a little like an early Super A. I love the cut away corner, which reminds me of a Leica M-something. I own a M 50mm 1.7 too. It's quite a good lens - recommended for the A bellows. Regards Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yours

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-09 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:41 -0400, "Steve Sharpe" wrote: > At 8:05 AM +1100 1/10/11, Brian Walters wrote: > >On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:53 -0800, "Larry Colen" wrote: > >> Saw this ad on craigslist: > >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html > >> $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 8:05 AM +1100 1/10/11, Brian Walters wrote: On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:53 -0800, "Larry Colen" wrote: Saw this ad on craigslist: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash I expect that the zoom isn't really worth an

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK, this post amused me greatly. Kind of a "mark" of short paragraphs. Picked up a P5 in Ebay a couple of months ago for $31. Body only, but virtually new, it came with an ME winder which the seller described as a "battery grip". It's a fun camera if you don't take it too seriously :-) On S

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-09 Thread Bong Manayon
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > Saw this ad on craigslist: > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html > $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash > > I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, and the 50/1.7 is > probably worth the

Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

2011-01-09 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:53 -0800, "Larry Colen" wrote: > Saw this ad on craigslist: > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html > $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash > > I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, and the 50/1.7 is > probably worth

Re: Is there a future for photojournalism?

2010-12-13 Thread David Parsons
As the article said, photojournalism isn't dead, just the current model. The new generation will remake it in their own image. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Bob W wrote: > ism_today.html> > > B > > > -- > PDML Pent

RE: Is there anyone on the list in, or near Butte Montana?

2010-12-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen I've got a friend that I've known since he was a few days old. His brother was my best friend when he was born. His wife just bought a K100d and a couple of lenses from someone she was helping sell gear on ebay. They live in Butte Montana, and while I can give some help over e

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > I've been investigating the possibilities at Flickr. So far, so good. > I can create tags, sets etc. That's good. I can decide that I (or > another person logging in as me) is the only one who can see the > picture. > > Just one problem: > Other t

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Aah. Good thinking Dave. You are either less tired than me or smarter ;-) Or a little bit of both. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/16 David Parsons : > Have them create a free account and add pictures to their photostream. >  They set the pictures as private, and add the

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread David Parsons
Have them create a free account and add pictures to their photostream. They set the pictures as private, and add them to the group. Only group members will be able to see the pictures. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > I've been investigating the possibilities at Flickr. So f

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
I've been investigating the possibilities at Flickr. So far, so good. I can create tags, sets etc. That's good. I can decide that I (or another person logging in as me) is the only one who can see the picture. Just one problem: Other team members (I'm just one out of four photographers) needs to u

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I agree with David. Safe enough for normal privacy concerns: password authentication and access control to invited participants is all that's needed. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM, David Parsons wrote: > Just make it "secure enough".  You don't need NSA level encryption or > 27 character mixed

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread David Parsons
Just make it "secure enough". You don't need NSA level encryption or 27 character mixed case passwords. Allow only the people that you want access to the group, and change the password as needed if people don't behave or someone leaves the group. A private group on Flickr is easy enough to setup

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
The reason for thinking in the line of a blog, is that I want to make sure everybody communicates at the same level,and to make sure every comment is accessible to everybody it concerns. But it may be a bad idea :-) -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/15 Boris Liberman : > O

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
I can assure you Godfrey, and the rest of you, there is really nothing naughty in the pictures. It's just about letting the models decide what to make public and what to keep private. Mainly because of natural vanity, I think. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/15 Godfrey D

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread William Robb
-- From: "CheekyGeek" Subject: Re: Is a private blog "safe"? Yes, emailing is totally safe. Unless of course someone uses the email FORWARD button, or leaves their email client open when they are not around, or ... Havi

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Unless you are using encrypted email, emails are sent as clear text over the network and can be intercepted easily. Also, since many emails need to be routed through several servers on its way from point a to point b, anyone with access to those servers' store and forward systems can easily audit e

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread CheekyGeek
>> Tim, if you want to share pictures between a group of 10 people (which is >> the impression I am getting from your initial post) then nothing really >> prevents you from inputting all their e-mail addresses to your e-mail client >> and establishing an ad-hoc mail list so that you can send these

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread William Robb
-- From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: Is a private blog "safe"? Tim, if you want to share pictures between a group of 10 people (which is the impression I am getting from your initial post) then nothing really prevent

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On 10/15/2010 6:26 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Hm... What do you recommend? Stay away from the whole idea, or another blogprovidor? -- MaritimTim Tim, if you want to share pictures between a group of 10 people (which is the impression I am getting from your initial post) then nothing really preven

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Flickr could be the way to go. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/15 Godfrey DiGiorgi : > Don't know what you mean by "safe". Friend of mine has been > specializing in nudes and figure studies for the past year. He posts > them to private flickr.com galleries and to his acco

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Hm... What do you recommend? Stay away from the whole idea, or another blogprovidor? -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/15 Boris Liberman : > No, and Google Blogger based blogs are doubly so. > > On 10/14/2010 9:16 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: >> >> I've mentioned this before. Me a

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread CheekyGeek
If you put a file on a web server it is never "safe". Period. Exclamation point. Add to that: Even if you make it password protected, etc. you have to share that password somehow with humans. Human beings, being human, can compromise your best intentions in many ways. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Don't know what you mean by "safe". Friend of mine has been specializing in nudes and figure studies for the past year. He posts them to private flickr.com galleries and to his account on modelmayhem.com. Only people with passwords see them. Similarly, I have bunches of photos on various sites tha

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread William Robb
-- From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: Is a private blog "safe"? I've mentioned this before. Me and some photo blokes are gone photograph some nakid women for a calendar. It's a parallel to Calendar Girls. I had my first shoot this morning, in a wetland.

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread Boris Liberman
No, and Google Blogger based blogs are doubly so. On 10/14/2010 9:16 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I've mentioned this before. Me and some photo blokes are gone photograph some nakid women for a calendar. It's a parallel to Calendar Girls. I had my first shoot this morning, in a wetland. The shots came

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
LOL. Thats not my blog!! I took the name out of nowhere. Seemed like a funny idea to see if somebody actually opened the "link", but I forgot to check if the URL was already used. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/15 P. J. Alling : >  It certainly looks private to me. > > O

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
It certainly looks private to me. On 10/14/2010 6:01 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Right. It's at http://uncensored.blogspot.com/ Comments and critiques welcome ;-) -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/14 Charles Robinson: On Oct 14, 2010, at 15:10, Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks St

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Right. It's at http://uncensored.blogspot.com/ Comments and critiques welcome ;-) -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/10/14 Charles Robinson : > On Oct 14, 2010, at 15:10, Tim Øsleby wrote: > >> Thanks Steve and Ecke >> >> Maybe I should have been more precise in the first post

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 14, 2010, at 15:10, Tim Øsleby wrote: > Thanks Steve and Ecke > > Maybe I should have been more precise in the first post :-) > My (and the rest of the teams) main concern is to keep the pictures > safe from curious people who wants a peek of the girl next door. > I assume he average hacke

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Steve and Ecke Maybe I should have been more precise in the first post :-) My (and the rest of the teams) main concern is to keep the pictures safe from curious people who wants a peek of the girl next door. I assume he average hacker will not be interested in me and the rest of the team as

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread eckinator
Also, Google might cache your images. expertsexchange.com paid answers for example are all visible via Google Cache query... 2010/10/14 steve harley : > On 2010-10-14 13:16 , Tim Øsleby wrote: >> >> Is it relatively safe to post pictures for the other members of >> the team at a private Blogger bl

Re: Is a private blog "safe"?

2010-10-14 Thread steve harley
On 2010-10-14 13:16 , Tim Øsleby wrote: Is it relatively safe to post pictures for the other members of the team at a private Blogger blog? Am I fooling myself if I trust the system? Only invited surfers are allowed access. it's probably "relatively safe" but certainly not foolproof; it sounds

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Boris Liberman
On 8/16/2010 9:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. Some really nice photos get posted on this list. Sometimes I'd like to post a link to one group of my friends or others who I think would appreciate a particular photo or gallery. Is it OK to assume that if someone

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Walter Gilbert
One point worth considering -- and I don't know how common it is these days -- is that some folks may be hosting their images on services with monthly bandwidth transfer limits. If that's the case, the person who posts the link here may want to specify it. That said, I'm a newbie to the list

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Larry Colen wrote: I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. Some really nice photos get posted on this list. Sometimes I'd like to post a link to one group of my friends or others who I think would appreciate a particular photo or gallery. Is it OK to assume that if someone posts a link to one

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread eckinator
I usually take down most images every so often. Once I have a website design posts will be permanent. Either way, be my guest. Cheers Ecke 2010/8/16 Larry Colen : > I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. > Some really nice photos get posted on this list.  Sometimes I'd like to post > a link to

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread paul stenquist
Anything posted on the web that's not protected by a log in is available to all. So I think it's okay to post a link to friends or other groups. Paul On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. > Some really nice photos get posted on this list. Som

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Sure why not. The list is archived, both by the PDML server and a couple of > public archiving services. Anything posted here can be widely viewed. That was my thought process, but I wanted to double check. Last week Boris posted one of Gali

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
Agreed - If I don't want it available I'll remove it. -p On 8/16/2010 2:18 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 13:36, Larry Colen wrote: I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. Some really nice photos get posted on this list. Sometimes I'd like to post a link to one group of m

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 16, 2010, at 13:36, Larry Colen wrote: > I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. > Some really nice photos get posted on this list. Sometimes I'd like to post > a link to one group of my friends or others who I think would appreciate a > particular photo or gallery. Is it OK to assume t

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Agreed. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: >  Sure why not.  The list is archived, both by the PDML server and a couple > of public archiving services.  Anything posted here can be widely viewed. > > On 8/16/2010 2:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> I'd like to clarify a point of p

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Sure why not. The list is archived, both by the PDML server and a couple of public archiving services. Anything posted here can be widely viewed. On 8/16/2010 2:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. Some really nice photos get posted on this list. Sometimes I'd

Re: Is there a consensus about forwarding links to pictures?

2010-08-16 Thread David J Brooks
I'm fine with it. Dave On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I'd like to clarify a point of protocol. > Some really nice photos get posted on this list.  Sometimes I'd like to post > a link to one group of my friends or others who I think would appreciate a > particular photo o

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 6, 2010, at 5:37 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: > Larry, > Did you find these threads in your research? > http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/accessory-memory-articles/27478-how-sandisk-rescuepro-raw-format-file-recovery.html > > http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/accessory-memory-articles/24603-ho

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-06 Thread tbeilby
Larry, when I need one or a whole folder of pef's or raw's to be visible, I use a freeware program called Instant Jpeg from raw. http://www.rawworkflow.com/instant-jpeg-from-raw-utility/ I select which files I want to see a jpeg for and it extracts the jpeg out of each and puts them in a sub f

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-06 Thread David J Brooks
Larry, i use this tool: http://www.kit.hi-ho.ne.jp/yj_okawa/pef2jpeg_readme-e.html I have not used it much since Pentax offered the DNG option but it did work for me with my istD Raw files. Dave On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I've tried several recovery programs to recove

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-06 Thread CheekyGeek
Larry, Did you find these threads in your research? http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/accessory-memory-articles/27478-how-sandisk-rescuepro-raw-format-file-recovery.html http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/accessory-memory-articles/24603-how-rescue-photos-corrupted-secure-digital-memory-card-card.

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-05 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 05:12:13PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > I've tried several recovery programs to recover the files from my corrupted > SD card. The .PEF files seem to have a workable jpeg in them, of what the > original photo was, but when I open them in lightroom, the raw file is > corru

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:12 -0700, "Larry Colen" wrote: > I've tried several recovery programs to recover the files from my > corrupted SD card. The .PEF files seem to have a workable jpeg in them, > of what the original photo was, but when I open them in lightroom, the > raw file is corrupted and

Re: Is there a way to extract jpegs from pefs?

2010-08-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:12 -0700, "Larry Colen" wrote: > I've tried several recovery programs to recover the files from my > corrupted SD card. The .PEF files seem to have a workable jpeg in them, > of what the original photo was, but when I open them in lightroom, the > raw file is corrupted and

Re: Is anyone collecting all the augenblick gesos?

2010-05-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Larry, Methinks all the links will be on pdml archive web site. Also, personally, I don't think I've deleted any such links yet. Likely, I won't delete them in the future either. Boris On 5/13/2010 9:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote: If no one else does, I may try to go back and collect all the ge

Re: Is anyone collecting all the augenblick gesos?

2010-05-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-05-13 2:47, Larry Colen wrote: If no one else does, I may try to go back and collect all the geso and peso links of pictures from last weekend. I'd love to see them all in one place, I'm so swamped right now, I don't know when I'll have a chance to do more than grep the list for posts tha

RE: Is photography over?

2010-04-25 Thread Bob W
> > > There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be > > filled with something that rhymes with bullshit. Another example of > > the art world's inability to understand photography: > > > > > > > i thought it w

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-25 Thread steve harley
Quoting Bob W : > There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be filled > with something that rhymes with bullshit. Another example of the art world's > inability to understand photography: > > i thought it worth

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator 2010/4/22 Chris Mitchell : Sadly it looks like there's a lot of interest: "The event is fully booked. A recording will be available later on the website." Q: How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb? A: Six. One to turn the bulb, one for support, and four t

RE: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be filled with something that rhymes with bullshit. Another example of the art world's inability to understand photography: Guess they couldn't get Alan

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread John Mullan
List" Subject: Re: Is photography over? 2010/4/22 Chris Mitchell : Sadly it looks like there's a lot of interest: "The event is fully booked. A recording will be available later on the website." Q: How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb? A: Six. One to

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread drd1135
Academics will say low of things to get published. Oh, and gull spit rhymes with bullshit. --Original Message-- From: Bob W Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Is photography over? Sent: Apr 22, 2010 2:45 PM There must

RE: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread Bob W
> "Primative Photography" by Alan Greene is one of the coolest > books I have seen in a while. > http://www.amazon.com/Primitive-Photography-Making-Cameras-Cal > otypes/dp/0240804619 > Reader reviews: > http://www.amazon.com/Primitive-Photography-Making-Cameras-Cal > otypes/product-reviews/0240804

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread CheekyGeek
While on the topic of photography being over... Allow me a moment to recommend a book to those of you who may enjoy a diversion into photography's "roots". "Primative Photography" by Alan Greene is one of the coolest books I have seen in a while. http://www.amazon.com/Primitive-Photography-Making-

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread David Parsons
I don't think that they really think that photography is over, they aren't sure if it's really art. IMO, the fact that they are taking the time to ask the question means that they are concerned about the status of photography in their world. Photography is many things to many people, and most of

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread eckinator
2010/4/22 Chris Mitchell : > > Sadly it looks like there's a lot of interest: > "The event is fully booked. A recording will be available later on the > website." Q: How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb? A: Six. One to turn the bulb, one for support, and four to relate to the

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-04-22 17:36, Chris Mitchell wrote: Surely someone's having a joke with us? Or they're trying to get every single sentence into Pseuds Corner (for the uninitiated, a column celebrating pompous use of language in satirical magazine Private Eye). That's what happens when you let "esteemed

RE: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread Chris Mitchell
Bob W wrote: > Subject: Is photography over? > > There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be > filled > with something that rhymes with bullshit. Another example of the art > world's > inability to understand photography: > >

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/22/2010 2:45 PM, Bob W wrote: There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be filled with something that rhymes with bullshit. Another example of the art world's inability to understand photography: Yo

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread DagT
Then at least it is not going under. DagT Den 22. apr. 2010 kl. 20.45 skrev Bob W: > There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be filled > with something that rhymes with bullshit. Another example of the art world's > inability to understand photography: > >

Re: Is photography over?

2010-04-22 Thread CheekyGeek
Yes. Photography is SO over. Please ship your cameras, lenses and darkroom equipment and supplies to me. Email me for a shipping address. Darren Addy Kearney, NE On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Bob W wrote: > There must be a lot of empty space in San Francisco waiting to be filled > with someth

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