Re: Is 3 mm worth the extra $1000.00

2006-02-13 Thread dagt
I wouldn't pay $1000 extra for 3mm, but I could do it for an extra aperture stop. Especially if it also gave me better mechanicas and sharpness. DagT > fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hi Troops > > I'm now starting to toy with the idea of getting more primes and faster AF

Re: Is 3 mm worth the extra $1000.00

2006-02-13 Thread Jack Davis
Dave, Let's say after you waded through a batch of opinions from the "troops", you had access to both lenses to enable you to run your own tests. After eye blurring, mostly inconclusive comparisons, (slides or digital?) you finally decided that the 31 were slightly "better". How much is the "better

Re: Is 3 mm worth the extra $1000.00

2006-02-13 Thread jens . bladt
The 31mm limited is more than excellent - it's georgeous. If you wnat a lens like that, you just pay. I have tried it once. It is razor sharp fully opened. But I admit it is very expensive. Regards Jens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Troops > > I'm now starting to toy wit

Re: Is 3 mm worth the extra $1000.00

2006-02-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Is 3 mm worth the extra $1000.00 Hi Troops I'm now starting to toy with the idea of getting more primes and faster AF glass for the Pentax collection. I really like the 28 focal length on the istD and have started to look a

Re: Is 3 mm worth the extra $1000.00

2006-02-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Dave, I bought 43 Ltd and 77 Ltd from fellow PDMLer last year... They are quite *amazing*. Suffices to say, I've put my FA 50/1.7 to the shelf and haven't really touched it since I first looked at the picture from 43 Ltd. The 77 Ltd is well worth every penny I spent on it. Have a look here: http:

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is here)

2006-01-10 Thread Igor Roshchin
Mea Culpa! Being tired at work, I made a mistake and sent a message that was incorrect, and the later, corrected version was lost in the process of editing. So, let me correct myself. (I saw some people responded in disagreement. Yes, the original message was wrong. I actually sent a message warn

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is...

2006-01-09 Thread DagT
Den 5. jan. 2006 kl. 22.15 skrev Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail): Gonz a écrit : I don't know this -- does a foreign company need to take out patents in the US for their proprietary stuff? Yes, if they want protection in the US for their proprietary products. Our company routinely files patent

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is...

2006-01-09 Thread Gonz
Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: Gonz a écrit : I don't know this -- does a foreign company need to take out patents in the US for their proprietary stuff? Yes, if they want protection in the US for their proprietary products. Our company routinely files patents in the European Union, Ja

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is...

2006-01-05 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
Gonz a écrit : I don't know this -- does a foreign company need to take out patents in the US for their proprietary stuff? Yes, if they want protection in the US for their proprietary products. Our company routinely files patents in the European Union, Japan, as well as the US of course. Ye

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is...

2006-01-05 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2006 10:35:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, upon a quick search in the database of US patents and and patent applications, I was not able to find one from Pentax, but I didn't have time for a thorough search.

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is...

2006-01-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2006 10:35:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, upon a quick search in the database of US patents and and patent applications, I was not able to find one from Pentax, but I didn't have time for a thorough se

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is...

2006-01-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/4/2006 10:35:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, upon a quick search in the database of US patents and and patent applications, I was not able to find one from Pentax, but I didn't have time for a thorough search. Besides, Pentax might be li

Re: IS without knowledge of lens (Was: RE: A10: Pentax Image Stabilization is here)

2006-01-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 Jan 2006 at 1:35, Igor Roshchin wrote: > To summarize, > 1a (and 1c) could be compatible with an SLR. 1a is used on the Pentax A10, the sensor assembly is shunted vertically and horizontally via a pair of solenoids. The KM 7D uses the same principle in its AS technology but moves the senso

Re: Is this real???

2005-09-10 Thread Steve Jolly
Feroze wrote: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26041 I don't know this newspaper, for the UK members is it a real paper or one of those "I saw Elvis rags"??? It's not a newspaper, it's an online technology news website. They have a reasonable reputation for getting things right. S

Re: Is this real???

2005-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 10/9/05, Feroze, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26041 > >I don't know this newspaper, for the UK members is it a real paper or >one of those "I saw Elvis rags"??? >My phone has a 1.3MP camera so I better get cracking at it...:) Never heard of it. Chee

Re: Is this real???

2005-09-09 Thread Feroze
does not bode well for a paid career as a PJ.pity Bob W wrote: It's not a UK newspaper as far as I know. However, the Scoopt agency is real, and a lot of cameraphone pictures and videos were used after the bombings on 7th July, by the BBC website, all TV news and most of the newspapers.

RE: Is this real???

2005-09-09 Thread Bob W
It's not a UK newspaper as far as I know. However, the Scoopt agency is real, and a lot of cameraphone pictures and videos were used after the bombings on 7th July, by the BBC website, all TV news and most of the newspapers. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4746633.stm http://www.scoopt.com/

Re: Is it a grip or a strap? (and a Q for Cotty)

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, Unca Mikey, discombobulated, unleashed: > I absolutely prohibit >myself from buying any more lenses or bodies, The last bloke to say that round these parts went into rehab only last week. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.c

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-18 Thread Larry Levy
Powell Hargrave stated: I like grip straps but there is the problem of what to do if you need to use both hands. I hate to set my camera down in an uncertain area so now I just wrap the normal Pentax strap around my wrist 3 times when I want the camera off my neck/shoulder. Not as nice as a g

Re: Is it a grip or a strap? (and a Q for Cotty)

2005-08-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Unca Mikey wrote: Thanks for the tip about the Marmot strap. I absolutely prohibit myself from buying any more lenses or bodies, so my gear lust must be satisfied with straps, grips, geegaws, gimracks, and do-dads. Lighting equipment for me... although I just

Re: Is it a grip or a strap? (and a Q for Cotty)

2005-08-18 Thread Unca Mikey
On 18/8/05, Cotty, combobulated, leashed: Isn't that like buying a car and then not driving it? Ha! Well, no, I just prefer to read the PDML posts via the mail-archive website. So far as I can see, the only downside is that my responses (like this one) won't get placed in the thread proper

Re: Is it a grip or a strap? (and a Q for Cotty)

2005-08-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My pleasure. I'm glad my suggestion on the mailing list config worked out for you. :-) Godfrey On Aug 18, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Unca Mikey wrote: I appreciate the comments and suggestions. Thanks to Godfrey and Cotty for responding with pictures: Godfrey's grip looks like the thing, and I r

Re: Is it a grip or a strap? (and a Q for Cotty)

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, Unca Mikey, discombobulated, unleashed: >I appreciate the comments and suggestions. Thanks to Godfrey and >Cotty for responding with pictures: Godfrey's grip looks like the >thing, and I really like Cotty's setup -- what kind of padded strap >is that? It looks very comfortable -

Re: Is it a grip or a strap? (and a Q for Cotty)

2005-08-18 Thread Unca Mikey
I appreciate the comments and suggestions. Thanks to Godfrey and Cotty for responding with pictures: Godfrey's grip looks like the thing, and I really like Cotty's setup -- what kind of padded strap is that? It looks very comfortable -- might be something to replace the one that came with m

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Very easy solution: a large, light alloy carabiner on my bag's strap >is an easy thing to snap the wrist strap through, and very easy to >release it from too. Takes up no space, is stronger than the strap. >Camera just dangles on the side of the b

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 06:30 PM 17/08/2005 , Fred Widall wrote: > >My 10 cent solution is to loop the wide 'ist' strap through a one inch >keyring. My hand goes through the loop and I snug it up to my wrist. >The strap is wide enough that it doesn't slip easily through the ring, >so it holds tight. Tried it. Works a

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Fred Widall
My 10 cent solution is to loop the wide 'ist' strap through a one inch keyring. My hand goes through the loop and I snug it up to my wrist. The strap is wide enough that it doesn't slip easily through the ring, so it holds tight. I find this less cumbersome and awkward than wrapping the strap arou

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Very easy solution: a large, light alloy carabiner on my bag's strap is an easy thing to snap the wrist strap through, and very easy to release it from too. Takes up no space, is stronger than the strap. Camera just dangles on the side of the bag while my hands are busy. (This assumes that

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Powell Hargrave
I like grip straps but there is the problem of what to do if you need to use both hands. I hate to set my camera down in an uncertain area so now I just wrap the normal Pentax strap around my wrist 3 times when I want the camera off my neck/shoulder. Not as nice as a grip strap but more versatile

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/8/05, Unca Mikey, discombobulated, unleashed: >Maybe I didn't use the right term? LOL. I am not sure if it's >called a grip or a strap, but I am thinking of some sort of thingy >that attaches to the right side of the camera body, between the strap >eyelet on top and probably the tripod

Re: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As I said before: Hakuba Grip-LH, see at B&H Photo using the URL: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=194968&is=REG&addedTroughType=search or http://tinyurl.com/bevzx Hakuba LH Camera Grip Mfr# KGP02 • B&H# HAGLH Our Price: $ 18.50 The photo of t

RE: Is it a grip or a strap?

2005-08-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Godfrey uses something like you describe. Made by Hama? I prefer the simpler strap as noted and posted in an earlier reply. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Unca Mikey > Maybe I didn't use the right term? LOL. I am not sure if it's > called a grip or a strap, but I am thinking of some so

Re: Is Fred Wasti still on the list?

2005-08-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't remember exactly but you have to set them either to 70mm or 210mm, (I can't remember which), press the white locking tabs and turn the collar to the right, with the lens pointed tword the target, IIRC. Mark Roberts wrote: Someone just asked me a question about Version 1 (Kiron) of the

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-20 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P.S. The Lims rule! Is that a typo? You mean the Sims? Pentax Simited lenses? Nah... Jostein

Re: Is PUG Still Down?

2005-07-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:22:23 +0200, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: but thanks to you, I've now submitted for August. Ah, great. Posterity will thank me, no doubt ;-) Looking forward to it... -- Regards, Lucas

Re: Is PUG Still Down?

2005-07-20 Thread frank theriault
On 7/20/05, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Frank, > > I used http://oksne.net/autopug/PUGform.asp. It was linked from the 'backup' > pug requirements page Adelheid mailed a link to a couple of days ago (see: > http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/general/autosubmit.html). It seemed up to d

Re: Is PUG Still Down?

2005-07-19 Thread Lucas Rijnders
> I can't get into it. > > How do we load pix for August? Hi Frank, I used http://oksne.net/autopug/PUGform.asp. It was linked from the 'backup' pug requirements page Adelheid mailed a link to a couple of days ago (see: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/general/autosubmit.html). It seemed up to date a

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/7/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >P.S. The Lims rule! Is that a typo? You mean the Sims? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Mishka, please re-read my statement... I am putting it in for the reference... > > Then the other half would be enabled with dirt cheap *istD's that would > > function perfectly and still produce excellent images... Or, it could be I misunderstood you ;-). P.S. The Lims rule! -- Boris

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-19 Thread Herb Chong
Boris is implying that a used *istD will be selling for $500 or less. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:25 AM Subject: Re: Is there a new Canon FF?? funny how all of a sudden, $2k has become "dir

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-19 Thread Mishka
funny how all of a sudden, $2k has become "dirt cheap". i would say, "Nikon F5-cheap" or "Leica cheap"... best, mishka On 7/19/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > It might not be so simple! > > > > What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to > > the istD with 12m

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! It might not be so simple! What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but in-camera image stabilization? Then half of the PDML would be dead from a heart attack from the shock. :) Then the other half would be enabled with dirt cheap

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Mishka
not like we have a choice here... best, mishka On 7/18/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Then half of the PDML would be dead from a heart attack from the shock. :) > > Would you rather die of old age waiting? > > William Robb

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Butch Black" Subject: Re: Is there a new Canon FF?? Rick wrote: It might not be so simple! What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but in-camera image stabilization? Then half of the

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Is there a new Canon FF?? The camera that comes next may be another top-of-the-line model but it might be another even-less-expensive DSLR. The money is where the big-selling consumer cameras are.

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
no-one would believe them because the sensor would cost almost that much. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Is there a new Canon FF?? It might not be so simple! What if Pentax a

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Feroze
My understanding of entry level is the "rebel" priced items, but a full frame for between $3000 & $4000 would really be hard to resist, and I dont think I'd be the only one... Feroze I'd guess a "competitive price" for a FF camera would be around $3000-$4000 USD. If Canon made a stripped down

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Rick Womer
It might not be so simple! What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but in-camera image stabilization? --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Canon made a stripped down FF camera, eliminating > the weather sealing > and other f

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Rick Womer
According to the interview with the new Pentax prexy a few months ago, they were going to release a low-price camera (the istDL), then the digital 645 successor, and then a follow-on to the D. We'll see. I'm still buying my film by the brick. Rick --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It might not be so simple! > >What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to >the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but >in-camera image stabilization? Well, that *would* make it a tough decision! But what kind of timeframe are we looking at? P

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/7/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: >What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to >the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but >in-camera image stabilization? Rick, sounds like the party's at your place tonight. Fill me up, buddy. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Butch Black
Rick wrote: It might not be so simple! What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor to the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but in-camera image stabilization? Then half of the PDML would be dead from a heart attack from the shock. :)

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Rick Womer
Mild, bitter, special, or stout? (we don't serve no stinkin' British lager!) --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/7/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >What if Pentax announced a $1500 (or $2K) successor > to > >the istD with 12mp on an APS-sized sensor, but > >in-camera ima

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 18 Jul 2005 at 11:33, Feroze wrote: > >> Rumors from a demo held this weekend by Canon SA was that there's a new >> full fame entry level body and a new pro body to be released shortly. If >> canon sold F/F base line models at a competative price I c

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2005 at 11:33, Feroze wrote: > Rumors from a demo held this weekend by Canon SA was that there's a new > full fame entry level body and a new pro body to be released shortly. If > canon sold F/F base line models at a competative price I could be very > tempted. I'd cry. Rob Studde

Re: Is there a new Canon FF??

2005-07-18 Thread Herb Chong
heard nothing at all other than Canon's firm commitment to 5 DSLR announcements this year. the Rebel XT uses up one. the worldwide release of 20Da might be another, depending who you talk to. Herb - Original Message - From: "Feroze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18,

Re: Is this a Chinese K1000?

2005-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling
I would. Shel Belinkoff wrote: That would make it a KM then ... ;-)) That basic camera has had a vey long life. I suppose one could argue that it started out as a Spotmatic or Spotmatic F. Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless Wow. That looks a lot like a K1000. Except

RE: Is this a Chinese K1000?

2005-06-15 Thread Don Sanderson
Yup, I have one of those. Except mine say "LUXON" on it and came with a lens I'd bet is the same as a Pentax M50/2 with less coating. Don > -Original Message- > From: Collin R Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:09 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Su

Re: Is this a Chinese K1000?

2005-06-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That would make it a KM then ... ;-)) That basic camera has had a vey long life. I suppose one could argue that it started out as a Spotmatic or Spotmatic F. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Scott Loveless > > Wow. That looks a lot like a K1000. Except for the timer/dof preview. > >

Re: Is this a Chinese K1000?

2005-06-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Collin R Brendemuehl" Subject: Is this a Chinese K1000? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15240&item=7522467560&rd=1 Most likely. Latterly, the K1000 was made in China anyway. William Robb

Re: Is this a Chinese K1000?

2005-06-15 Thread Scott Loveless
Wow. That looks a lot like a K1000. Except for the timer/dof preview. On 6/15/05, Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15240&item=7522467560&rd=1 > > > > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have to hold

Re: Is this a Chinese K1000?

2005-06-15 Thread Jon M
Sure looks like it to me. -Jon M, owner of an original Pentax K-1000 assembled in China --- Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15240&item=7522467560&rd=1 > > > > __ Ya

Re: is 750 euro good price for 80-200 f2.8?

2005-05-10 Thread Fred
>> And, assuming that you're perhaps (?) talking about a Pentax FA* >> 200/2.8. (You know, there ~are~ other 80-200/2.8's out there...) > nope, I'm speaking of the FA* 80-200 f2.8 ED IF. Oops - that's what I meant (and "80-200/2.8" is what I said in the second sentence above...). (Sorry.) > Som

Re: is 750 euro good price for 80-200 f2.8?

2005-05-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 10 May 2005, Frank Wajer wrote: > nope, I'm speaking of the FA* 80-200 f2.8 ED IF. Someone bid 850 euro > already, arghh. Aaaa, that's what you mean 750. I think they should have started at 0.01. Kostas

Re: is 750 euro good price for 80-200 f2.8?

2005-05-10 Thread Frank Wajer
I found a used 80-200 f2.8 lens, is 750 euro a good bid? If it's in a good condition, yes. No doubt. And, assuming that you're perhaps (?) talking about a Pentax FA* 200/2.8. (You know, there ~are~ other 80-200/2.8's out there...) Fred nope, I'm speaking of the FA* 80-200 f2.8 ED IF. Someone bid 8

Re: is 750 euro good price for 80-200 f2.8?

2005-05-09 Thread Fred
>> I found a used 80-200 f2.8 lens, is 750 euro a good bid? > If it's in a good condition, yes. No doubt. And, assuming that you're perhaps (?) talking about a Pentax FA* 200/2.8. (You know, there ~are~ other 80-200/2.8's out there...) Fred

Re: is 750 euro good price for 80-200 f2.8?

2005-05-09 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Frank Wajer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/05/09 Mon AM 06:47:55 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: is 750 euro good price for 80-200 f2.8? > > Hi guys, > > I found a used 80-200 f2.8 lens, is 750 euro a good bid? > > Frank If you don't want it, let me know ---

RE: is it a bubble?

2005-04-25 Thread Jon Paul Schelter \(R* Toronto\)
>-Original Message- >From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:18 PM >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >Subject: Re: is it a bubble? > >On 4/22/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> My li

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-23 Thread pnstenquist
Pentax lens prices didn't drop at the release of the *istD. They were already on the way up. And I think the *istD and D70 were released at about the same price. Nikon eventually had a fire sale on the D70 because they didn't have a price leader. > Mark Erickson wrote: > > Seems clear that pri

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-23 Thread Herb Chong
age - From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:24 AM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? So the current Pentax approach - grab market share while you can, and worry about upgrades for that customer base later - seems sensible.

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-23 Thread Herb Chong
al Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? How could Pentax have lost DSLR market share? They went from zero to whatever they have now. And a lot of those buyers, probably the majority, were move ups from P&S. They aren&#x

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-23 Thread Herb Chong
riday, April 22, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? Canon is the real problem here. They introduce upgrades too fast, but it makes the others either react or lose market share. So far, most are losing market share, including Pentax. Actually it is potential market share that Pentax

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread John Francis
Herb Chong mused: > > in 18 months, the market will be saturated. So the current Pentax approach - grab market share while you can, and worry about upgrades for that customer base later - seems sensible.

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2005 at 19:32, Herb Chong wrote: > which is why ti think hey should have been working on an upgrade body over the > *istD instead of a 645D. This is far too logical an approach Herb, you know that. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Canon is the real problem here. They introduce upgrades too fast, but it makes the others either react or lose market share. So far, most are losing market share, including Pentax. Actually it is potential market share that Pentax is losing to Canon by not responding faster. -- Best regards, B

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Herb Chong
which is why ti think hey should have been working on an upgrade body over the *istD instead of a 645D. Herb - Original Message - From: "David Oswald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? That's prosum

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
It is, in my opinion, a much smarter approach. The real problem though, is if they do that, then they will have to concede the MF market totally (as they probably should), because they don't have enough resources to do both simultaneously. And if they wait any longer on the MF market, it will be

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Herb Chong
in 18 months, the market will be saturated. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: Re: is it a bubble? The Pentax strategy is completely logical. If I was the Pentax marketing manager I wouldn't have in

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread pnstenquist
The Pentax strategy is completely logical. If I was the Pentax marketing manager I wouldn't have introduced an *istD (S) upgrade this soon. I'd want to wait until a large percentage of the original buyers of both cameras would be ready for an upgrade. It wold be premature now. In 18 months, it

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Mishka
one step UP??? mishka On 4/22/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most camera store clerks are only one step up the ladder of knowledge from > their customers. They form thir opinions about equipment the same way the > customer does.

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Waller) wrote: > My limited, local, experience, is that most camera salespeople that I > run into are pushing Canon & Nikon and could care less about what the > Pentax line offers. This is most likely due to the push those camera > ma

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread pnstenquist
How could Pentax have lost DSLR market share? They went from zero to whatever they have now. And a lot of those buyers, probably the majority, were move ups from P&S. They aren't ready for an upgrade yet. But they will be. Probably right around the time Pentax is ready to introduce one. > Cano

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread pnstenquist
arket will be saturated. > > Herb > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:16 PM > Subject: Re: is it a bubble? > > > > The Pentax strategy is completely logical. If I was the Pentax marketing

RE: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Mark People buy these for either their *ist D/DS or for their 35mm cameras, which are now affordable for anyone. Perhaps the limited availability of dedicated, fast D-lenses is also an issue. Lenses @ f2.8 or better are hard to find and/or very expensive. Jens Seems clear that prices for certain u

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread John Forbes
I'm a case in point. Long-time Pentax user, but rather lost interest until the D came out. I've bought over twenty lenses in the last year and a half, and a second D body. Mad? Yup. But most didn't cost much, and it's a lot of fun trying to get bargains on Ebay. Just occasionally I ta

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread frank theriault
On 4/22/05, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly. It's the cameras that have created the demand for the lenses. > If desirable products continue to come, lens prices will remain high. > What we're seeing now is partially due to a big swing from P&S to DSLR. > Pentax probably develope

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Exactly. It's the cameras that have created the demand for the lenses. If desirable products continue to come, lens prices will remain high. What we're seeing now is partially due to a big swing from P&S to DSLR. Pentax probably developed some brand loyalty with their numerous and successful P&

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Jolly
Mark Erickson wrote: Seems clear that prices for certain used Pentax lenses have popped up quite a bit in the last year or so. Do you think that prices are higher to stay, or is it a bubble (like might be happening in the housing markets in the UK, US, and Australia)? Thoughts? My feeling is that

Re: is it a bubble?

2005-04-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Apr 2005 at 22:17, Mark Erickson wrote: > Seems clear that prices for certain used Pentax lenses have popped up quite a > bit in the last year or so. Do you think that prices are higher to stay, or > is > it a bubble (like might be happening in the housing markets in the UK, US, and > Aust

RE: Is this a "hot pixel"?

2005-04-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Apr 2005 at 9:52, Mark Erickson wrote: > Besides, how often to you take pictures of lenscaps (on purpose, anyway)? > :-) Not entirely fair, I've got a few hotties (blue + red) that regularly cause me hassles from 1/10 to 1/6 second which is right where my hot-lights put the exposures on my

RE: Is this a "hot pixel"?

2005-04-03 Thread Mark Erickson
Don, You may not want to hear this, but speaking as someone who engineered products in the semiconductor manufacturing field for a number of years, I can say that there is no such thing as perfection in imaging arrays. All of the ccd sites vary at least a little bit compared to each other, and so

RE: Is this a "hot pixel"?

2005-04-03 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks William, but now my D isn't *perfect* anymore! AH!!! ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:08 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Is this a "hot pixel&qu

Re: Is this a "hot pixel"?

2005-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" Subject: Is this a "hot pixel"? This is a 500% enlarged crop from a shot taken with the D at 2 seconds with a lens cap on. It's quite visible at 100% if against a dark background. This is the first time I've noticed it and I don't see any others

Re: Is a large Kodak sensor any good? (was: 645D Design remarks)

2005-03-25 Thread Butch Black
Rob wrote: I can't explain why the sample you saw looked so bad, what aspect of the image quality most displeased you? Grain/noise. Dario A friend of mine has the Kodak DSC 14c. The images look fine. I remember when the 14n first came out it had some noise issues, they fixed it with an update and

Re: Is a large Kodak sensor any good? (was: 645D Design remarks)

2005-03-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Mar 2005 at 16:21, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Rob wrote: > > > I can't explain why > > the sample you saw looked so bad, what aspect of the image quality most > > displeased you? > > Grain/noise. Wow, that shouldn't be right, from the samples I've seen from 22MP backs (sales promos sent ou

Re: Is a large Kodak sensor any good? (was: 645D Design remarks)

2005-03-25 Thread Dario Bonazza
Rob wrote: I can't explain why the sample you saw looked so bad, what aspect of the image quality most displeased you? Grain/noise. Dario

Re: Is a large Kodak sensor any good? (was: 645D Design remarks)

2005-03-24 Thread Pål Jensen
Dario wrote: > My main concern about the 645D is: have you ever seen a large Kodak sensor > working well? I mean more or less as well as a competitor sensor at all ISO > settings (noise, and so on)? I cannot imagine Pentax (or Kodak for that matter) would release a digital camera not up to wh

Re: Is a large Kodak sensor any good? (was: 645D Design remarks)

2005-03-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Mar 2005 at 18:39, Dario Bonazza wrote: > My main concern about the 645D is: have you ever seen a large Kodak sensor > working well? I mean more or less as well as a competitor sensor at all ISO > settings (noise, and so on)? Kodak sensors I haven't any experience with but they never built

Re: Is this dust?

2005-03-20 Thread Dave Kennedy
Yeah, it's not too bad, I just have to make sure something interesting is at the end of the fungus, every time a press the shutter. I've also found that it's not so bad when the subject is primarily of a similar hue. :-) dk On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:17:09 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O

Re: Is this dust?

2005-03-20 Thread Dave Kennedy
That sounds like a good plan. As they say, an once of prevention On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:06:17 -0500, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or the drug store. A sterile ear syringe works great. Just squeeze the > bulb and you get a blast of perfectly clean, dry air. I blow off my > senso

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