on 09.08.02 7:56, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you think thats simple,
Try using a spotmatic:
set aperture
set shutter speed
focus manually on what you want
shoot
Well, actually you can do that exactly the same way with MZ-S (with the
exception of focus, you don't
on 09.08.02 4:14, Alan Chan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think their goal was to combine the design of Z-1p and MZ-3/5 together.
That does not necessaily actually mean better or simpler interface. Coming
from manual focus era, I have found nothing work faster for me than
tradition shutter
You could do exactly the same with the MZ-S. If you simply
1) turn it on,
2) turn the aperture ring,
3) turn the main dial to get shutter speed (which can be viewed on top
or through the viewfinder) and
4) focus on manual,
you would have exactly the same number of movements as a Spotmatic.
Designed for advanced photographers, the Z-1p's digital system offered
such sophisticated features as a centralized display system and the Hyper
exposure modes, but its state-of-the-art control system was a little too
complicated for some users to get accustomed to in a short period. On the
The MZ-S is pretty simple to my mind:
Change the aperture - twist the aperture ring
Change the shutter speed - spin the control wheel
Set the camera back to Program - press the green button on the front
Lock everything - press the Hold button
Check the focus - press the AF button
Check DOF - pull
The MZ-S is pretty simple to my mind:
Change the aperture - twist the aperture ring
Change the shutter speed - spin the control wheel
Set the camera back to Program - press the green button on the front
Lock everything - press the Hold button
Check the focus - press the AF button
Check DOF
Look, you're going to have to make up your mind as to what is fair and what isn't. The
Z1P is even older than the ZX-5, but it's fair to compare it [Z1P] with the N80, while
it isn't fair to compare with the ZX-5 because the ZX-5 is too old. Huh??? Maybe
sticking to price class would make more
Sylwester wrote:
I am not trying to say, that focus point
selection in MZ-S is good - it is not.
It certainly is! It's perhaps the best in business. In my experience it's right 80% of
the time.
But I still cannot see too many
situations, when ergonomical focus poiot selection would be
Sylwester wrote:
Yes, focus selection in MZ-S is not ergonomic in any way...
Fortunately I
don't use focus point selection, finding standard re-compose action much
more effective.
Maybe if you've been so fortunate that you have used focus point selection you may
have figured out
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Bruce wrote:
Having to do a focus and recompose, because the AF sensor selection
implementation is too clumsy to use quickly is a joke.
Nice then that the MZ-S has an excellent interface making it possible to
choose between six
Len wrote:
Has Canon scrapped their focus system that tracks your eyball and focusses
where you are looking?
They don't use it on the EOS-1V. It doesn't work for all people.
Pål
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I can
see you are real Nikon fan, and I am Pentax one :-)
Hi Sylwek,
I wouldn't be so sure about that:
I hope I didn't insult
you in any point!
:))
Lukasz
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Bruce wrote:
If you think the 1/2 stop difference in optics between the lenses makes a difference
in AF speed, then you're right, there is no point in continuing this discussion.
You cannot really compare focus speed in this way anyway. What you are comparing is
often the gearing of the
on 30.07.02 22:05, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you think the 1/2 stop difference in optics between the lenses makes a
difference in AF speed, then you're right, there is no point in continuing
this discussion.
If you think the difference between F4.5 and 5.6 is
on 30.07.02 22:47, ukasz Kacperczyk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can
see you are real Nikon fan, and I am Pentax one :-)
Hi Sylwek,
I wouldn't be so sure about that:
I hope I didn't insult
you in any point!
:))
Well, I don't know man :-) But, I REALLY don't want to insult him
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From: Sylwester Pietrzyk
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
Well, I don't know man :-) But, I REALLY don't want to insult
him in any
way. Even if he likes Pentax and Nikon together ;-)
Don't worry about insulting Bruce.
Some of the best
There is no simple test, configuration or figure of merit to quantify the
performance of a camera's AF system. There are to many variables to arrive
at a simple set of numbers, let alone a single one. There are reasons why
most test reports are of static tests, with a normal lens and only the
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:49 AM
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On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:
I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S
is that
stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need
Rob-
I think you'll find manual focus to be much better for action shots
of auto racing- focus on a point and shoot when the car comes into
frame.
Not having used AF SLRs much at all, one thing that would work if you
can focus lock on a particular spot but be able to easily override in
case a
Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm still
sleepingbut what is a key fob?
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From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
On Mon
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
think to include one in my camera gear. They should have a 'photographer's'
knife!
the Victronix or whatever it is (insight, if I pull it from my pocket,
I'll know: Victorinox)
Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm still
sleepingbut what is a key fob?
Look at your spare keys. The ones you have in a drawer. Are they on a ring?
Does the ring have something else attached to it? ...A bit of metal or
colored plastic so you can
Those Tamrac straps are nice- I have two myself.
Taka
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Heh...ok, thanks...now I feel really dumb :)
Brad Dobo
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:31 AM
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Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm
I've used an N90S but I still think MF is the way to go for
motorsports due to the difficulty in getting the focus point
just right for action shots. Just MHO.
Taka
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Desjardins
Sent: Monday, July 29,
One thing surprises me here, I have been told by camera store employees,
Nikon and Canon user, that the Pentax AF system beats everything hand down.
However, so many of you focus manually (and so do I, when I have to in macro
or telephoto) I have a very easy time with AF, and with the MZ-S, it's
In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:48:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
think to include one in my camera gear. They should have a
'photographer's'
knife!
Maybe they do:
A
With what lens? 50/1.4 or something with lots of heavy glass elements? With the amount
of current available from a pair of CR2 batteries there is no way for the AF motor to
drive lots of large glass elements quickly. With Canon and Nikon you can also buy
lenses with the motor in the lens for
markings on them and give 'em away. I've got a few Zippo knives that have
corporate logos on them.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:48
I had the N90s.
Len
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From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
Well, according to Foto Magazin tests AF in MZ-S is only slower than F5 and
EOS1V
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I
Maybe they do:
A
HREF=http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/knife.jpg;http://members.aol.com/gr
eenfalc1/knife.jpg/A
(front back sides of the same knife -- that's what it really looks like)
ERNR
My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http
One thing surprises me here, I have been told by camera store
employees, Nikon and Canon user, that the Pentax AF system beats
everything hand down.
I'm surprised you heard that -- where IS this camera store with
the enlightened employees?
It's the Pentax USA outlet at Englewood - g.
Fred
With the amount of current available from a pair of CR2 batteries
there is no way for the AF motor to drive lots of large glass
elements quickly.
Hmmm... Does that mean that an autofocus body with a AA grip might
sometimes focus a bit more rapidly than the same body with CR2's ???
Fred
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Now, if we could only get one that says Pentax instead of Kodak. Does
anyone here have any connections wih the company that makes the knives?
Len
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Ooooh! Rosewood handles! Who made the knife?
Len
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From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
It just so happens that I have in my grubby little paws
At 02:58 PM 7/29/02 -0400, you wrote:
It just so happens that I have in my grubby little paws, a Swiss Army Style
knife with rosewood handles that has Pentax engraved on one side.
Bill KG4LOV
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Me too! (Well, actually it's in my desk at home) courtesy of Tom
Rittenhouse, as
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:26 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:
I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the
MZ-S is that
stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned
That was my impression when using the FG grip. There was a greater torque
reaction when the lens was being focused. particularly with lithium AA's in
the grip. This did, however, stop after a few months: the AF motor died.
Lesson learned: If you want long lived, fast AF get a body with a big AF
on the MZ-S I was glad I didn't wait for it to come out.
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
If you use Nikon with non AF-S
lens, it will be probably even slightly slower than Pentax (I didn't tested
it with better N's - only had opportunity
Ummmever think it was a defect? What are real batteries? I use
batteries, they see to be real. :) Never had a AF motor stop, or, to my
eyes, slow down.
the grip. This did, however, stop after a few months: the AF motor died.
Lesson learned: If you want long lived, fast AF get a body with
Nice shots with the Oly and I fully agree on the lack of a DSLR. I'm amazed
at how much of my shooting has moved over to my Nikon digital.
As for the rewind button - I'm always out in the woods and a twig is never
far off. But how about taking a safety pin, cutting off or dulling the
sharp
Bruce,
I'm curious, did Pentax make it right i.e. fix or replace the body for
free? (MZ-S)
Robert
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From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
That was my
On 29 Jul 2002 at 21:47, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
That was my impression when using the FG grip. There was a greater torque
reaction when the lens was being focused. particularly with lithium AA's in the
grip. This did, however, stop after a few months: the AF motor died. Lesson
learned: If
In a message dated 7/29/2002 7:47:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for the rewind button - I'm always out in the woods and a twig is never
far off. But how about taking a safety pin, cutting off or dulling the
sharp end, and then just pinning it to the strap?
If
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:22 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
Hi Team,
I had an irritating experience with my MZ-S on the weekend, I found that I had
left the PF film rewind function to manual however I didn't have the Pentax
strap on the camera. The fact that there is no way to change modes before
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is
that stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax
strap, although a wider more comfortable one would be nice.
Use a twig or a pen point. I'll use my
John Mullan wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:22 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
Each time I get out with my Oly I'm becoming more and more irritated by the
fact that there is no Pentax DSLR (especially when I have a clutch of great
Pentax glass on me).
The stem of some grass blades (yes, even short ones) should be strong
and thin enough also. Not that grass is EVERYWHERE, but it is in alot
of places.
IL Bill
gfen wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is
that
Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
think to include one in my camera gear. They should have a 'photographer's'
knife!
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From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe
On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:
I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is that
stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax strap,
although a wider more comfortable one would be nice.
Hi Brad,
I have Tamrac straps with
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