Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488
I wonder if there is a similar correlation between having sustained a
'severe h
While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control
and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)
For some reason helmets give rise to the same intensity of discussions among
cyclists (not just on this list btw).
As for me, don't care what any study says I like wear
On 06/05/2013 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control
and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)
For some reason helmets give rise to the same intensity of discussions among
cyclists (not just on this list btw
There is bit more detail in this article, by the same author
http://theconversation.com/bike-helmets-an-emergency-doctors-perspective-13935
I do not ride my motorcycle or bicycle without a helmet.
Philip Northeast
www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
On 7/05/13 11:40 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
Discuss
On 7 May 2013, at 06:39, Bill wrote:
> On 06/05/2013 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control
>> and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)
>>
>> For some reason helmets give rise to the same intensity of dis
as articulated by Bob W. I am all for
being libertarian when it comes to helmet laws for adults.
Cheers,
frank
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On 06/05/2013 9:31 PM, knarftheria...
ng the expenses themselves.
Gerrit
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There is an argument that one who dies early
On 07/05/2013 9:02 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
But if it is covered by insurance, it is still 'public' money. Insurance
companies get their money from... you guessed it.. people like you and me.
My premiums go to pay for someone else's incident.
Its not like the person who had the incident is taking
quot; tend to still be fault-based.
The bottom line is that large amounts "public funds" rarely get into the hands
of one who is at fault in any motor vehicle accident.
Cheers,
frank
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I started using a helmet after a friend og mine reminded me that my head was no
longer just mine. I have three kids depending to s scary degree on the work I
do with my brain, so I should do something to protect it.
DagT
7. mai 2013 kl. 07:51 skrev Philip Northeast :
> There is bit more deta
On 7 May 2013, at 17:39, Bill wrote:
> On 07/05/2013 9:02 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
>> But if it is covered by insurance, it is still 'public' money. Insurance
>> companies get their money from... you guessed it.. people like you and me.
>> My premiums go to pay for someone else's incident.
>> Its
On 7 May 2013, at 20:32, Bob W wrote:
> On 7 May 2013, at 17:39, Bill wrote:
>
>> On 07/05/2013 9:02 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
>>> But if it is covered by insurance, it is still 'public' money. Insurance
>>> companies get their money from... you guessed it.. people like you and me.
>>> My premiu
On Tue, May 07, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The fact that your insurance premiums go into a pool and pay for the
> collisions of others does not make it public money. You may choose
> your insurance company, you may choose different levels of coverage
> or you may choose not to pay in
cts'?.
Gerrit
Who is now going to post a PESO so that he is not considered a non-photo
contributing troll :-)
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Bob W wrote:
>In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for aggravating
>injuries under some circumstances where no injury would otherwise have
>occurred.
I believe this to be an urban legend. I have never seen any
peer-reviewed documentation of such effects (and I have loo
On May 7, 2013, at 15:45 , Bob W wrote:
>
> In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for
> aggravating injuries under some circumstances where no injury would otherwise
> have occurred.
>
I've seen this statement trotted out many times but have never heard of a true
stu
on 2013-05-07 15:51 Charles Robinson wrote
I mean, seriously, I can't even visualize/imagine the situation that would
demonstrate this to be true.
i can imagine it, but i doubt it's a significant counterweight to the benefits
of helmets; given the helmets secure fastenings and basic integrity
on 2013-05-07 1:05 Bob W wrote
Second, people take part in all sorts of activities which damage their health
one way or another, from driving cars, to eating meat, drinking alcohol,
climbing mountains, and taking drugs. These things are all costing the public
purse, in many cases far more than
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I own a car, therefor I pay insurance. Being able to choose which company
makes no difference as to who gets to use the money that I pay, I get no say
whatsover as to whose accidents get paid out or not. So really I have no
ch
sts aren't).
gerrit
Getting another PESO ready
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Relax!
You make it sou
On 07/05/2013 2:29 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
Who is now going to post a PESO so that he is not considered a non-photo
contributing troll :-)
All that will change is that you will be like me, an occasional photo
contributing troll.
bill
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On 07/05/2013 3:51 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
On May 7, 2013, at 15:45 , Bob W wrote:
In addition, the helmets that do exist can also be responsible for aggravating
injuries under some circumstances where no injury would otherwise have occurred.
I've seen this statement trotted out many tim
of the
hard hat was about 2 inches above the top of my head! However, that is no
reason not to wear hard hats.
Alan C
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On May 8, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Bob W wrote:
> Adults in full possession of the facts and their faculties [...]
And where do you suggest we find such an adult?
:D
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On May 8, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Bob W wrote:
> Adults in full possession of the facts and th
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:40:46AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
> Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
> surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
> this article may be of interest:
>
> http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488
It is inde
On 08/05/2013 17:24, Larry Colen wrote:
An interesting case in point, research has shown that stricter
drunk driving laws result in a temporary decrease in drunk driving,
after a while, however, people go back to their old habits.
Not here. Substantial decrease in road deaths upon introducti
From: David Mann
On May 8, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Bob W wrote:
Adults in full possession of the facts and their faculties [...]
And where do you suggest we find such an adult?
:D
Cheers,
Dave (I'm staying out of this debate)
Back when I was in the National Guard they kept telling us that the
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