From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/09/28 Thu PM 10:20:44 GMT
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Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
On 28/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
That certainly comes across us 1) as rude, 2) as simplistic, and 3) do you
really honestly expect
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should try the SMCK series K28/2.5, K24/3.5, K20/4, and K35/3.5.
They're just rather difficult to come by. I have the 4/20 mm in the M
version and I'm very fond of it.
If you have gone digital you
How about the K 18/3.5 with digital?
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I'm just starting to use mine more frequently with the DS. It seems OK
thus far, but I've not used it enough to get a real good feel for it, and
its quality, in all situations.
FWIW, I found the K24/2.8 to be an under appreciated jewel with the DS (for
a while it was my most used lens with the
Cotty wrote:
I have a complaint.
Sorry, this is getting hit on the head lessons here.
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David Savage wrote:
At 06:47 AM 29/09/2006, Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
This is horsepucky. The DA12-24, DA14, FA20-35, FA20, DA21, FA28, and
FA35 are
Mark Roberts wrote:
David Savage wrote:
At 06:47 AM 29/09/2006, Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
This is horsepucky. The DA12-24, DA14, FA20-35, FA20, DA21, FA28,
On 28/09/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried the SMCT, SMCK or SMCA 15mm F3.5
Lenses on any of the Pentax DSLRs? I am curious how
It does and compares with the 14mm Digital dedicated
Lens (DA?). Thanks, jco
Yes, well from the DA 14mm tests I've seen. I'll find a full
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Thanks, jco
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On 28/09/06, J. C
On Sep 28, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 28/09/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried the SMCT, SMCK or SMCA 15mm F3.5
Lenses on any of the Pentax DSLRs? I am curious how
It does and compares with the 14mm Digital dedicated
Lens (DA?). Thanks, jco
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried the SMCT, SMCK or SMCA 15mm F3.5
Lenses on any of the Pentax DSLRs? I am curious how
It does and compares with the 14mm Digital dedicated
Lens (DA?).
No idea how it compares to the 14 mm, but I have the SMC-A 15 mm on my
DS. Bought
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
Has anyone tried the SMCT, SMCK or SMCA 15mm F3.5
Lenses on any of the Pentax DSLRs? I am curious how
It does and compares with the 14mm Digital dedicated
Lens (DA?). Thanks, jco
I bought the 15 when there
: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried the SMCT, SMCK or SMCA 15mm F3.5
Lenses on any of the Pentax DSLRs? I am curious how
It does and compares with the 14mm Digital dedicated
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
since you are only using 2/3 of the lenses angle of
view maybe you should fashion a custom hood for APS
usage to help eliminate flare caused by out of frame
light sources?
Still wouldn't be enough to make the lens usable for my purposes. Pity
really.
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
since you are only using 2/3 of the lenses angle of
view maybe you should fashion a custom hood for APS
usage to help eliminate flare caused by out of frame
light sources?
Still wouldn't be enough to make the lens usable
So, if wide angles lenses are so important to you, and Pentax doesn't seem
to make an acceptable w/a, why are you using Pentax gear?
Shel
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From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
(re A15/3.5)
Still wouldn't be enough to make the lens usable for my purposes. Pity
really.
Somehow,
On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
since you are only using 2/3 of the lenses angle of
view maybe you should fashion a custom hood for APS
usage to help eliminate flare caused by out of frame
light sources?
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
What about the 2/28, 2/35 and 2.8/14 DA? All are excellent lenses, and
two of them are currently available.
And the FA20/2.8 ... one of the best I've tried ... or DA21/3.2?
Or the FA 28/2.8 AL - great lens at a
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J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
since you are only using 2/3 of the lenses angle of
view maybe you should fashion a custom hood for APS
usage to help eliminate flare caused by out
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the 2/28, 2/35 and 2.8/14 DA? All are excellent lenses, and
two of them are currently available.
If I had that much money to spend I'd buy a Fuji S5 and the lenses that
go with it.
*duck*
Ralf
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Correction I meant the K28/3.5 not 2.5
jco
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Subject: RE: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
You should try the SMCK series K28/2.5
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ? Thanks
At 02:58 PM 9/28/06, you wrote:
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone tried the SMCT, SMCK or SMCA 15mm F3.5
Lenses on any of the Pentax DSLRs? I am
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From: j
Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
Thanks
I'm not, but I also realize that really wide angle lenses just tend to
be not as optically good
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, if wide angles lenses are so important to you, and Pentax doesn't seem
to make an acceptable w/a, why are you using Pentax gear?
I bought into the system at a time when extreme wide-angle lenses
weren't necessary. The 2.8/28 mm was the shortest
j [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..
Not at all. I haven't tried the newer Pentax lenses. Maybe there's
something better among these. I was merely talking about the lenses I
own which is only a fraction of
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should try the SMCK series K28/2.5, K24/3.5, K20/4, and K35/3.5.
They're just rather difficult to come by. I have the 4/20 mm in the M
version and I'm very fond of it.
Ralf
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Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or the FA 28/2.8 AL - great lens at a great price.
Is this a different optical design compared to the old M 2.8/28 mm?
Ralf
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Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or the FA 28/2.8 AL - great lens at a great price.
Is this a different optical design compared to the old M 2.8/28 mm?
Ralf
Totally different design. The FA is a 5 element in 5 group design using
an aspherical element,
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Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:51:53 -0700
So, if wide angles lenses are so important to you, and Pentax doesn't seem
to make an acceptable w/a, why are you using Pentax gear?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
(re A15/3.5)
Still
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the 2/28, 2/35 and 2.8/14 DA? All are excellent lenses, and
two of them are currently available.
If I had that much money to spend I'd buy a Fuji S5 and the lenses that
go with it.
*duck*
Ralf
Two of them
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, if wide angles lenses are so important to you, and Pentax doesn't seem
to make an acceptable w/a, why are you using Pentax gear?
I bought into the system at a time when extreme wide-angle lenses
weren't necessary. The
On 28/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
That certainly comes across us 1) as rude, 2) as simplistic, and 3) do you
really honestly expect that a person cannot both like a product line and
have a few complaints about it at the same time?
I have a complaint.
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Third door on the right. :-)
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:20:44 +0100
On 28/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
That certainly comes
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Given the choice, I'd probably go for the new Fuji
S5 - if only for the dynamic range which would be a
definite plus for my night stuff - provided it came
with a better viewfinder than its predecessors.
It has the same viewfinder as the D200 - which
From: j
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
This is horsepucky. The DA12-24, DA14, FA20-35, FA20, DA21, FA28, and
FA35 are all excellent. The DA16-45 is quite good too.
Godfrey
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or the FA 28/2.8 AL - great lens at a great price.
Is this a different optical design compared to the old M 2.8/28 mm?
Yes.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
From: j
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
This is horsepucky. The DA12-24, DA14, FA20-35, FA20, DA21, FA28, and
FA35 are all excellent. The DA16-45 is quite good too.
Douglas Newman wrote:
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Given the choice, I'd probably go for the new Fuji
S5 - if only for the dynamic range which would be a
definite plus for my night stuff - provided it came
with a better viewfinder than its predecessors.
It has the same
On 29/09/06, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 2.8/24 mm has a real nasty barrel distorsion, the 2.8/28 mm is a
notorious under-achiever, and the 2.8/35 mm is prone to sticky aperture
blades (so much that I haven't seen a working example on ebay.de for
ages - those who were
It could be. There are, BTW, two M28/2.8 designs.
Shel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Or the FA 28/2.8 AL - great lens at a great price.
Is this a different optical design compared to the old M 2.8/28 mm?
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I only asked a question, Tom. There was no suggestion that anyone stop
using Pentax or leave the list. The question was simple, Ralf replied with
a straightforward answer. Question asked, question answered. You read too
much into my question. Others may have suggested that Ralf quite Pentax
Both are 7 in 7 designs, although the optical design did change somewhat
between the two. The latter SMC-M version is essentially the SMC-A
version with a non-A mount and aperture ring. It looks like they may
have run out of parts for the earlier version and decided to put the A
into
Do you have some inside information about its quality?
Shel
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From: Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
From: j
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
This is horsepucky.
--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 18-200, while a good lens, is not one I'd pair
with the D200.
The only reason I'd buy it is for the VR.
There's no other VR Nikkor wider than 24mm.
I'd not invest in the D200 unless I was willing to
pair it with serious glass
I'd not invest in
else, or I use Pentax gear because my grandmother gave
it to me as a gift. :-)
Tom C.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:29:58 -0700
I
On 9/28/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both are 7 in 7 designs, although the optical design did change somewhat
between the two. The latter SMC-M version is essentially the SMC-A
version with a non-A mount and aperture ring. It looks like they may
have run out of parts for the earlier
If the answer were obvious, there'd be no need to ask the question ;-))
Shel
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From: Tom C
I also generally thought the answer would be obvious.
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From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
On 28/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
That certainly comes across us 1) as rude, 2) as simplistic, and 3) do
you
really honestly expect that a person cannot both like a product line
and
have a few
I thought you went out for a drink?
Cotty wrote:
On 28/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
That certainly comes across us 1) as rude, 2) as simplistic, and 3) do you
really honestly expect that a person cannot both like a product line and
have a few complaints about it at the same
the D200 would be my first
choice for a digital. If the Pentax K10D is anywhere near as good of a
camera to use it should sell great. By the way both of my co-workers thought
the D200 too small for them.
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:49:47 -0400
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax
the MB-D200 on it. With the grip, it's bigger than the D2X or D2H.
-Adam
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:49:47 -0400
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
I also generally thought the answer would be obvious. I use Pentax
gear
because it's what I have, or I use Pentax gear because I can't afford
to
switch to something else, or I use Pentax gear because my
Douglas Newman wrote:
--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 18-200, while a good lens, is not one I'd pair
with the D200.
The only reason I'd buy it is for the VR.
There's no other VR Nikkor wider than 24mm.
VR is a great feature, but I'd give it up for those precious stops of
At 06:20 AM 29/09/2006, Cotty wrote:
On 28/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
That certainly comes across us 1) as rude, 2) as simplistic, and 3) do you
really honestly expect that a person cannot both like a product line and
have a few complaints about it at the same time?
I have a
At 06:47 AM 29/09/2006, Mark Roberts wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
So are you guys saying that no wide Pentax wide
is going to work that good with the new K10D..How about long lens ?
This is horsepucky. The DA12-24, DA14, FA20-35, FA20, DA21, FA28, and
FA35 are all excellent. The
William Robb wrote:
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
I also generally thought the answer would be obvious. I use Pentax
gear
because it's what I have, or I use Pentax gear because I can't afford
to
switch to something else, or I use
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From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Pentax 15mm on DSLR?
I use Pentax because of the Nikon F3HP.
Eh?
That's one of the two bodies that keeps me using my Nikon kit (the
other
is the FA, my EM, which I love, is essentially identical to half the
M-series bodies
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Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the 2/28, 2/35 and 2.8/14 DA? All are excellent
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