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> From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/04 Fri PM 04:34:05 GMT
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> Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
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Thanks for all the answers. I think checksums or byte comparisons are best,
but I will look into what my software offers. Actually, never done any
verification, so anything will probably be better than nothing.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:00:59 -0500
Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is your intent to actually COMPRESS files (which, if they're JPEG
> files, won't really happen) or to just "park" them inside of some
> larger file structure which has error-checking and such?
>
> -Charles
the
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> In my blissful ignorance, I've always done the verify. I guess that's because
> I've always used
> either the apple sofware or toast. Now I
Charles Robinson wrote:
> It really depends upon what you're using to run your backups to disc.
> But MOST software has an option to immediately do a verify/compare
> between your source files and the burned disc immediately after the
> disc is written.
Having been burned before, I never t
In my blissful ignorance, I've always done the verify. I guess that's because
I've always used either the apple sofware or toast. Now I use Toast 9
exclusively. It's excellent. In addition to doing he verify, it automatically
will pick the best write speed if you allow it that option. On my LaCi
Don't use the built in software in XP use something like Nero which will
automatically verify the burn, if you ask it to.
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> In a message dated 4/4/2008 10:01:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> Usually, for me, if a disc is bad, it is ba
On Apr 4, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
>> Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a verification/
>> validation pass.
>> And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
>>
> It really depends upon what you're using to run your backups to disc.
> But MOST software has an option to
On Apr 4, 2008, at 14:52, Bran Everseeking wrote:
>
> I burn 2 dvds and two sets of CDs as backup each month. One is a
> straight copy of the originals and edits and the other is a compressed
> file copy. I also keep copies on my machine and an hidden directory
> on
> my son's machine ( he has
On Apr 4, 2008, at 13:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a verification/
> validation pass.
> And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
>
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
>
Marnie -
It really depends upon what you're using to run your backups to disc.
But M
On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:22:33 +0100
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a
> > verification/validation pass.
> > And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
> >
> > Marnie aka Doe :-)
well both are PC's really. I add another confusion as i run
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> Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a verification/validation pass.
> And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
>
I know Nero
> Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a
> verification/validation pass.
> And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
>
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
>
A read-after-write check should be built into the hardware (albeit
switchable from the operating system).
Bob
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In a message dated 4/4/2008 10:01:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Usually, for me, if a disc is bad, it is bad from the beginning.
That's why you should *always* run a verification/validation pass
immediately after burning a CD/DVD, and make at least two
indepe
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>> On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>> I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
>>&g
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> he feeling that everything is alright with the world, nothing is too
> much?
E...
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On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have storage paranoia like you do. Probably the best thing to do
> is, back
> up to CDs/DVDs, two copies, keep on hard disk. Then go in in one
> to three
> months or so and see if one can get photos off CDs/DVDs.
In the past week or t
On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I'm sorry to say, I don't get the point of the question here. camera? car?
>large-sized winkicon? having-a-brain-fart-in-Chicago, Christine
Soyou've never actually owned an LX then...? You've never actually
experienced that, ahhh,
:42 AM
Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
> On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
>>wink, wink, winkicon
>
> You have an LX?
>
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> Cheers,
> Cotty
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> It's me. Or, rather, the eight days of two hours sleep. The five second
> micronaps aren't working.
>
> King Zombie
I'll send you the link to my online photo gallery--that'll put you right to
sleep ;-). Seriously, get so
On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
>wink, wink, winkicon
You have an LX?
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In a message dated 4/3/2008 2:11:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Godfrey,
My point of view is that you haven't validated that you can recover
your pictures from the data until you actually do such, or at least do
a sample. To say the bits and bites are all the same im
>
> From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/04 Fri PM 02:41:26 GMT
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> From: &qu
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From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> All the words I mentioned are names.
Mike: I know that--and I followed the link. I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
wink, wink, winkicon.
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If you do a validation of a set of files that you know to be good and
generate a checksum, then run the validation again at another time ...
and the checksums match ... the files are good.
If this weren't true, there would be no point to file validation.
Godfrey
On Apr 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, B
>
> From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 10:53:58 GMT
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> On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 05:30:00PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
> >
>
>
> From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 10:30:00 GMT
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> Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
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Couldn't make the sound work from this PC, but it seems like a
reversed Coca-cola Light Break...
Jostein
2008/4/4 Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy.
> >
> > Mike: Is this an adjective for that famou
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From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Wimpey, at a guess.
yes, I think that was the name! Cheers, Christine
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>
> I'm not at all surprised that the construction workers are in broad
> agreement with such a policy - they are terribly enlightened over
> here, as this documentary proves:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 05:30:00PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
>
> Apparently, a construction company by the
> name of Wimbley (sp?) has banned the famous Wolf whistle.
Wimpey, at a guess.
(Often jokingly regarded as an acronym for "We Import More Paddies
Every Year" - many of the construct
> From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy.
>
> Mike: Is this an adjective for that famous British Wolf
> whistle or Wolf
> call British construction workers are famous for?--Heard a
> funny BBC radio
> story on the way to work today.
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> Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy.
Mike: Is this an adjective for that famous British Wolf whistle or Wolf
call British construction workers are famous for?--Heard a funny BBC radio
story on the way to wo
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> "Temporarily..." An awful word to pronounce for us Germans. Usually
> sounded as if someone had just fed them a glowing hot potatoe. :-))
"vorübergehend" ... hmmm, I see what you mean. :-)
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AlunFoto wrote:
> Recently sorted out "ascertain", but I'm still struggling with "superfluous".
Superfluous is properly pronounced "extra". :-)
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Bob Sullivan wrote:
> My point of view is that you haven't validated that you can recover
> your pictures from the data until you actually do such, or at least do
> a sample. To say the bits and bites are all the same implies no other
> glitches in the process.
No doubt. The number one most neg
Godfrey,
My point of view is that you haven't validated that you can recover
your pictures from the data until you actually do such, or at least do
a sample. To say the bits and bites are all the same implies no other
glitches in the process.
Regards, Bob S.
On 4/3/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL P
I prefer redundant information.
AlunFoto wrote:
> 2008/4/3, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha -
>> it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find
>> their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tir
Well my point was that I burned some perfectly good CDs on an HP 2100
burner under Win98. I moved that burner to a machine running Win2K,
those CDs were unreadable. They weren't that important so I put them
aside to try some data recovery at a later time. I acquired a DVD
burner, that was pu
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month
or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on
the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading
200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate
doing that for the
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month
or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on
the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading
200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate
doing that for the
The backup heaven is Restore. :-)
Jostein
2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some.
> My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future.
> With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-
2008/4/3, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha -
> it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find
> their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of that
> joke.
>
> If you really want to impress the lo
I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some.
My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future.
With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up
becomes an issue.
Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked
for t
Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and
archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is
improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard
storage medium.
These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to
worry
> >
> > >iterative
> >
> > Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
>
> Ach, that's easier than "aperture". :-)
>
> Recently sorted out "ascertain", but I'm still struggling
> with "superfluous".
>
> The best surprise yet, though, was "Southwark". :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Jostein
I bet they taug
>
> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 02:01:44 GMT
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> 2008/4/3, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 3/4/08, AlunFot
ke wilson wrote:
>> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:19:17 GMT
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
>> Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
>>
>> At the agency where I work, we received roughl
You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think
I'm just paranoid...)
AlunFoto wrote:
> At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation
> last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs.
>
> We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2
> years,
2008/4/3, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >iterative
>
> Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
Ach, that's easier than "aperture". :-)
Recently sorted out "ascertain", but I'm still struggling with "superfluous".
The best surprise yet, tho
lol yeah... It needs practice... :-)
Jostein
2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Just try again...
>
> On 4/3/08, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >iterative
> >
> > Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
> >
> > --
> >
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
Reminds me of the good old days of German coastal radio station
"Norddeich Radio". One of their routine messages was that owing to
severe weather the pilotage in the Elbe and Weser estuary had been
*temporarily* suspe
Just try again...
On 4/3/08, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >iterative
>
> Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
>
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> Cheers,
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> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:47:32 GMT
> To: "pentax list"
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> On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >iterative
>
> Holy
>
> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:19:17 GMT
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> At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentati
At 04:47 PM 3/04/2008, Cotty wrote:
>On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >iterative
>
>Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
I think it's Norwegian for "Boring as bat s#!t"
Cheers,
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On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
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At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation
last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs.
We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2
years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents
than with any photo.
So we regard discs as transport medi
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Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs
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