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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
Hi,
Short answer: someone who isn't
Of course GRIN!
Ciao,
Graywolf
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From: Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
Well, the usual definition of a pro is someone who
derives all, or a major portion, of their income from
selling
Not serious... Ah, I see g
There is always so much wailing and gnashing of teeth every time the p word
comes up, but I don't recall amateur being discussed here lately (I'm sure it
has been, I probably just missed it, or forgot about it).
Being as I know so little about cameras/photography, I
[ I choose a random post to reply to, nothing particular about
this one. Oh, by the way, this IS NOT a rag on you guys and gals
who are professional photographers. It is a statement about how
the times they have/are a changing, more or less. ]
Graywolf wrote:
Yes, I think that amateur
: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 05:48 AM, Norman Baugher wrote:
Can someone define what a pro is? G, D R
It would be time to trot out Professional: The Musical again, wouldn't
it?
-Aaron
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Hi,
Short answer: someone who isn't a pro - which of course, only begs the
question...
That being said, I think of the French word amateur, which means a fan, as
in a sports fan. If I'm not mistaken, the root of the word, is aime (or the
Latin equivalent), so an amateur is someone who does
Well, the usual definition of a pro is someone who
derives all, or a major portion, of their income from
selling/licensing photographic images that they've made.
Everyone else is an amateur. Using any other metric than
percentage of income gets things into semantic quicksand
quickly.
Hey, I
T Rittenhouse wrote:
Hey, I am still waiting for that definition of what an amateur photographer
is.
That one is easy. Canon has already published the answer -- someone who
uses a third-party lens.
Bob
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You are right Tom,Its a lot cheaper than horse ownership:)
Dave(looking at a second horse today,and a lens??)Brooks
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From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
Why, photography
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy
all the goodies
and yet still be in good terms with
the significant other?
Aha! Simple.
I AM the significant other ;-)
LOL! So am I! And my fiance can't say a word, because he's the one who
got me into it. ;)
--Amita
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I'm doing it as both job and hobby. My day job has evolved into something
highly technical (although with occasional amazing gigs in places most of us
could never get to on our own) so I've resolved not to worry about my stock
photography sideline. On my own time I'm a wannabe amateur and hard
Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its never really been an issue with my partner, its my money to waste on
what ever i want :)
Paul,
You don't have kids, I take it?
Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, at 09:30 AM, Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
I for one wish to do it for a living. I'm willing to divide my income
with 50% in order to achieve it. Having a regular or real job is
grossly overrated - I'm certainly only in it for the money.
Well, that's pretty much
I shoot for myself mostly these days, so I'd say my shooting is a paid
hobby.
I print for a living, so I'm a pro at that end of it.
-Aaron
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Definitely a hobby, although lot's of people make a living out of it, only
not me. It's also a way of travelling for me, a way of relating to the world
around, and a door opener (sometimes a door closer too).
/Erik
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Can someone define what a pro is? G, D R
Norm
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by pro I meant someone who makes a living by doing photography
regards,
Rogier
From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:48:29 +0200
Can someone define what a pro is? G, D R
Norm
I'm not going there.
Bob
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From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
Can someone define what a pro is? G, D R
Norm
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I guess semi-pro (whatever that may mean)...
My main income is as Market researcher/Marketeer,
however most of my photography, which started as a
passionate hobby, is being paid for and I use it to
buy equipment and materials...therefore non-profit.
Michele
Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing
: Re: pro or hobby
Can someone define what a pro is? G, D R
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I find it to be a great hobby/creative outlet. This way I can shoot
what I want and not worry about having to shoot what other people want.
That's what I keep telling myself, 'cause I know that I'd starve at my
current skill level.
It would be nice to be able to dedicate more time to it tho.
I'm asking the rest of the list permission to shoot to kill
From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:38:09 +0200
And also, if you are not a pro and do it as a hobby, does that make you
Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I spend on my photo stuff
is pro quantity.
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the goodies
and yet still be in good terms with
the significant other? For the single folks, how are you able to do it and
still have
And also, if you are not a pro and do it as a hobby, does that make you
an amateur? G
Norm
T Rittenhouse wrote:
Yes, Norm, you are a pro agitator. G
From: Norman Baugher
Can someone define what a pro is? G, D R
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 06:47:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the
goodies
and yet still be in good terms with
the significant other?
I couldn't.
For the single folks, how are you able to do
it and
still have enough dough?
I
The problem I have is that my wife is a Pentaxian as well so she 'notices'
the extra lens and then I usually loose it!
Alan
There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay
cash, have the
package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it
home and mix it in
with the
In a message dated 4/11/2002 8:48:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the goodies
and yet still be in good terms with
the significant other?
Three things help. First, I occasionally do get paid for
There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay cash,
have the package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it home and mix it
in with the other stuff, so it's not readily noticed (doesn't work on all items)...
I have the good delivered to a coworker's house or, if
Single helps, you get to save since your not spending
money you would on another .
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I
spend on my photo stuff
is pro quantity.
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able
to buy all the goodies
and yet
You're more jaded than I am Tom G...
NOrm
tom wrote:
There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay cash,
have the
package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it home and
mix it in
with the other stuff, so it's not readily noticed (doesn't work on
all
items)...
tom wrote:
There are many ingenious ways, some of the favorites -- pay cash,
have the
package shipped to the office or a friends house, sneak it home and
mix it in
with the other stuff, so it's not readily noticed (doesn't work on
all
items)...
Find someone more accommodating
My
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:05:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, another question (slightly OT). Given the chance to go on a
trip and
spend $1k or to buy a used medium format camera, which would you
guys
choose?
That one's actually tougher...since I already have most of the gear I
need, I'd
Easy - we're so far from anywhere in Australia that any overseas trip costs
more than a grand anyway! (In this context, I'm counting NZ as not overseas -
sorry, David and the other Kiwis)
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
On Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Have it shipped to your office. Then, wrap it up in the lunch bag or your
brief case, stop by the florist's on the way home, and quick while she's
putting water in the vase spirit your newly acquired booty to your closet.
If you get caught, she's still got the flowers.
Best regards.
Chris
Of course, the flowers for no apparent reason are going to
arouse a lot of suspicion.
Len
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From: Chris Niesmertelny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby - secrets revealed!
Have it shipped
At 10:02 11-4-2002 -0400, you wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I spend on my photo stuff
is pro quantity.
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the goodies
and yet still be in good terms with
the significant other?
Aha!
Its never really been an issue with my partner, its my money to waste on
what ever i want :)
Strictly hobby but by my wife's account the money I spend on my photo
stuff
is pro quantity.
How do you guys manage it? I mean how are you able to buy all the
goodies
and yet still be in good
I'd say I'm TRYING to do it as a hobby :)
practice makes perfect apparently
Cheers,
Dave
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From: Rogier van der Peijl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I for one wish to do it for a living. I'm willing to divide my income with
50% in order to achieve it. Having a regular or real job is grossly
overrated - I'm certainly only
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:19:03 +0200, Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography
for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I'm doing it as a hobby
I do it for a living.
tv
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Hobby, but I'm trying to sell some photos
Christian
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 08:19, Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I'm doing it as a hobby
regards,
Rogier
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This
Expensive hobby.
Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I'm doing it as a hobby
regards,
Rogier
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Meld je aan
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
Uh ... hobby I guess, though I keep hoping to learn how to make
money at it. I have done some for pay (a wedding, pet portraits;
sold copies of a few other prints).
:-D
ah well you've gotta spend it on something...
regards,
Rogier
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From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: pro or hobby
Expensive hobby.
Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
I was wondering
Hobby. My day job is TV news cameraman. I know many pros (stills) and
whenever we get together all they wanna talk about is TV, and all I wanna
talk about is stills.
You can't win!
Cotty
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Hi,
I'm doing it as a penance...
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Wednesday, April 10, 2002, 1:19:03 PM, you wrote:
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I'm doing it as a hobby
regards,
Rogier
Rogier asked politely:
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing
photography for a living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
I'm doing it as a hobby
Masochism here.
Stephen
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I'm doing it as a hobby
So am I, but I sincerely believe that I'll be able to have my own photographic
business someday:))
So far I put much money into it far too much..:)
Ah, after all, who cares...?:))
regards,
Rogier
Greetz
Artur
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Encyklopedia multimedialna
I do it as a hobby. I get my money from working in accounting specially
concerned with information-systems. So photography makes a creative part in my
life.
Regards
Bernd
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
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Doing photography for living... a better life.
No income, absolut hobby.
Jostein
http://oksne.net
If your'e going to get a life, you might as well get a good one.
--The Getaway People
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From: Rogier van der Peijl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There is a lot of money in photography. I know. I put it in there.
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 03:06 pm, Artur Ledóchowski wrote:
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I'm doing it as a hobby
So am I, but I sincerely believe that I'll be able to have my own
photographic business someday:)) So far I put
God, isn't it obvious!! You've all seen my PUG submissions!
Rogier van der Peijl wrote:
I was wondering how many people on this list are doing photography for a
living and how many are doing it as a hobby.
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The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears
But, seriously, it's still a hobby, although I'm seriously thinking of
trying to make money at it at some point, although I don't have any
illusions that it will be anything more than a secondary income.
My sister, her husband and I have been selling prints of our stuff on eBay
over the last few
Hobby. And I intend to keep it this way.
No way am I spending all this money only to end up whishing I would write
some C++ code for a change. Which would be a very likely outcome once I
start shooting for living. For me at least.
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HAR!
Ciao,
Graywolf
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From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rogier van der Peijl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: pro
Let's see? What day is it?
I have done both. Strangely, over the years, I have made more money doing
snapshots than serious photography. Right now I guess the little I do
qualifies as therapy.
Ciao,
Graywolf
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