On Apr 17, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> More displacement between the brake & accelerator pedal will increase the
> response time involved in moving your foot from the accelerator to the brake
> - a good reason not to invcrease the distance
In other words you're damned if you do and yo
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
From: "Ken Waller"
From: "Jerry in Arizona"
>Unlike the Toyota, the Audi was an ergonomic issue with the location
From: "Ken Waller"
From: "Jerry in Arizona"
>Unlike the Toyota, the Audi was an ergonomic issue with the location and
>size of the brake pedal. The sudden >acceleration was found to be drivers
>pressing hartd on the accelerator when they thought they were pressing >the
>brake pedal.
Sounds l
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "paul stenquist"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: steve harley
On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
> But because Audi
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- Original Message -
From: "Jerry in Arizona"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
Unlike the Toyota, the Audi was an ergonomic issue with the location and
size of the brake pedal. The sudden >acceleration was found
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "steve harley"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
But because Audi was unable to positively prove driver error it
ultimately resulted in them dis
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "J.C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: sudden stop
Has Toyota revealed (yet?) what actually went wrong
and the actual fix for the problem? I think that should happen.
NHTS
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "Doug Franklin"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
In the 60 minutes segment on the problem they were eventually busted for
modifying the car t
On 2010-04-15 19:22, John Sessoms wrote:
I think that was an NBC program, might have been "Dateline" and it was a
pickup truck from one of the GM brands.
Yeah, that was probably the "saddle tanks" "investigation".
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: steve harley
>> On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> > But because Audi was unable to positively prove driver error it
>>> > ultimately resulted in them discontinuing the model line in question
>>> > (the 100 and 90?)
>> it was abo
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Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
But because Audi was unable to positively prove driver error it
ultimately resulted in them discontinuing the model line in question
(the 100 and 90?)
it was about 20 years earlier, not the 90/100 models, but the Aud
r, with a model
using the European nomenclature)
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 07:21:34PM -0400, John Mullan wrote:
> I believe it was the 5000.
>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:34 PM
> To: &
From: steve harley
On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
> But because Audi was unable to positively prove driver error it
> ultimately resulted in them discontinuing the model line in question
> (the 100 and 90?)
it was about 20 years earlier, not the 90/100 models, but the Audi Fox
in t
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
In the 60 minutes segment on the problem they were eventually busted for
modifying the car to show the problem when they couldn't get it t
From: "J.C. O'Connell"
Has Toyota revealed (yet?) what actually went wrong
and the actual fix for the problem? I think that should happen.
Supposedly it was a problem with an accelerator pedal assembly, but not
everyone accepts their explanation. There are questions whether it's in
the electr
From: Doug Franklin
On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
> In the 60 minutes segment on the problem they were eventually busted for
> modifying the car to show the problem when they couldn't get it to
> happen on its own.
Weren't they the ones that added a model rocket engine to a Pinto (?
I believe it was the 5000.
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Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
But because Audi was unable to pos
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Several others as well.
The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case became
notable. They started off by denying it wa
On 2010-04-15 13:18 , Bruce Walker wrote:
But because Audi was unable to positively prove driver error it
ultimately resulted in them discontinuing the model line in question
(the 100 and 90?)
it was about 20 years earlier, not the 90/100 models, but the Audi Fox
in the 70s; i could be off sin
Has Toyota revealed (yet?) what actually went wrong
and the actual fix for the problem? I think that should happen.
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From: "Doug Franklin"
>> Subject: Re: sudden stop
>>
>>
>>> On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the 60 minutes segment on the problem they were eventually busted for
>>>> modifying the car to show the problem
Sorry wrong link in my mail, right one coming up
2010/4/15 William Robb :
>
> - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin"
> Subject: Re: sudden stop
>
>
>> On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>> In the 60 minutes segment on the problem
2010/4/15 William Robb :
>>
>> Weren't they the ones that added a model rocket engine to a Pinto (? I
>> think ?) to get it to "explode" in a collision.
>
> Also, IIRC, the ones who modified a Chevy Silverado with TNT to show how
> unsafe the sidesaddle gas tanks were.
Nothing quite like the Brits
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Franklin"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
In the 60 minutes segment on the problem they were eventually busted for
modifying the car to show the problem when they couldn't get it to
happen on its own.
On 2010-04-15 15:10, Larry Colen wrote:
In the 60 minutes segment on the problem they were eventually busted for
modifying the car to show the problem when they couldn't get it to
happen on its own.
Weren't they the ones that added a model rocket engine to a Pinto (? I
think ?) to get it to "
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Walker"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
John Sessoms wrote:
Several others as well.
The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case became
notable. They star
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "Larry Colen"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
On 4/15/2010 12:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Several others as well.
The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case beca
John Sessoms wrote:
Several others as well.
The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case became
notable. They started off by denying it was happening at all, then tried
to blame it all on driver error, and were eventually forced into a
recall to fix the problem.
Not to b
On 4/15/2010 12:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Several others as well.
The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case became
notable. They started off by denying it was happening at all, then tried
to blame it all on driver error, and were eventually forced into a
recall to fix the
Several others as well.
The Toyota case became notable for the same reason the Audi case became
notable. They started off by denying it was happening at all, then tried
to blame it all on driver error, and were eventually forced into a
recall to fix the problem.
Never would have become a pro
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: "eckinator"
Subject: Re: sudden stop
sad but true ... weren't there also runaway audis a decade or so ago?
More like 20 years or so ago.
Those were also due to pedal
LoL..
J
--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Ken Waller wrote:
> From: Ken Waller
> Subject: Re: sudden stop
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 8:55 AM
> Are Toyotas allowed on that street ?
> ;-}
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www
sad but true ... weren't there also runaway audis a decade or so ago?
2010/4/15 Ken Waller :
> Are Toyotas allowed on that street ? ;-}
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen"
>
> Subject: peso: sudden stop
>
>
>> S
Are Toyotas allowed on that street ? ;-}
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- Original Message -
From: "Larry Colen"
Subject: peso: sudden stop
Seen on my way to Aikido in Watsonville tonight:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4522187475/
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