RE: K10D vs D80

2006-09-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Coming up is a DA* 50-135, much higher quality than the Nikon, has supersonic motor drive so should be very fast autofoucus, constant aperture v nikons variable aperture, probably more expensive but better quality. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pen

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-29 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
Hi, There are a couple 3rd party options comparable in functionality to Nikon's 18-135, although probably not in par in terms of quality, and definitely not supersonic driven: Sigma 18-125 F3.5-5.6 DC Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC Tamron 18-200 F3.5-6.3 XR Di II I know nothing about the image quali

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I haven't heard of anything from Pentax. I just checked the lens road map and there doesn't seem to be anything in the near future either.+ Juan Buhler wrote: >A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his >main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. > >Of course, I su

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm not a fan of such lenses generally. A friend of mine who also isn't seems to be very happy with the Sigma 17-70 of late. Not that I love Sigma, but I have usually found John's choices to be apt. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his > main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. > > Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs > are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towar

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Amita Guha > If he goes with Nikon, he also has the option of the > 18-200mm, which is supposed to be superb for its cla

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Adam Maas
Superzooms. The Sigma and Tamron 18-200's, and the Nikkor, which is significantly better optically, 1/2 stop faster at the long end and 3-4x the price (Although much of the price difference is in the VR) -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is i

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once and thought it meant something else. Now, what's "VR?" Overall and generally speaking, how do these "superzooms" compare to zooms with a lesser focal range? Do they measure up to even those standards? Shel > [Origina

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread David Savage
On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once > and thought it meant something else. Now, what's "VR?" "VIbration Reduction" Nikon's version of IS > Overall and generally speaking, how do these "superzooms" com

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Mat Maessen
On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs > are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says > that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry > any extra lenses (!). Is it jus

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), > price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? I guess you'd call it a digital superzoom. All prices @ B&H: Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G DX VR AF-S $

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Rick Womer
I wonder if Kenny-boy has bothered to shoot with it before recommending it. If he shot with it, I wonder if he bothered to look at the pix. Cynical me. Rick --- Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the > lenses in his bag, including primes. http

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Carlos Royo
Amita Guha wrote: > PopPhoto says the Nikon is the best superzoom they've seen optically, > and Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, > including primes. It's quite a popular lens from what I've seen on > Nikon message boards. > If Ken Rockwell says that, then all of

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Adam Maas
David Savage wrote: > On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once >> and thought it meant something else. Now, what's "VR?" > > "VIbration Reduction" Nikon's version of IS > >> Overall and generally speaking

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Adam Maas
Mat Maessen wrote: > On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs >> are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says >> that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry >> any ext

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Adam Maas
It's small, light and decent. But not up to the quality of Nikon's 70-200VR and 28-70 AF-S or 17-55 AF-S. Ken's an idiot, but we all know that already. But he has shot with it (And used it in his 50mm comparison, which included test shots). -Adam Rick Womer wrote: > I wonder if Kenny-boy has

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Thibouille
K10D viewfinder IS beter than the one of the D IMO. Check before stating things. I did. 2006/9/30, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mat Maessen wrote: > > On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs > >> are closer to

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Adam Maas
I suspect if you put the K10D's Bright Matte II screen into the D or DS, you'll be pleasantly surprised (provided they're compatible, which I hope for). The new screen (introduced with the DL) is very bright. However, I'd rate the D200 finder as being better than the D's by a mild margin. So

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: > Mat Maessen wrote: > >> Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a >> camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? > > It's not just you :) > Actually, it makes a lot of sense for the average consumer, who will never own more than 1-2

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 02:40:38PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > Mat Maessen wrote: > > >Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a > >camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? > > It's not just you :) Still, it seems a slightly more informed choice than pic

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Mat Maessen wrote: >Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a >camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? It's not just you :) -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net h

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: >Mat Maessen wrote: > >>Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a >>camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? > >It's not just you :) Of course, if you're going to do it, why settle for a measly 17-200? Go with this Tamron and you'll los

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
It really depends on your expectations. I've been using the SMC-P FA 28-200mm on the D and Ds and it makes a fine lightweight, if not particularly compact event lens. I wasn't happy with it on film, it was a bit soft in the corners and edges at the long end and suffered from noticeable barre

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
AII. Ken Rockwell The master of all things photographic, the man who does "hands on" reviews of equipment made out of unobtainium, (at least as far as he would know since he's never actually had his hands on it), (and admits it in his hands on reviews). That KEN ROCKWELL

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-10-04 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote: > Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs > are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says > that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry > any extra lenses (!). He should take a com

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-10-04 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:19:58PM +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: > On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote: > > Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs > > are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says > > that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 le

RE: K10D vs D80

2006-10-04 Thread Bill Owens
This is why I like the Tamron 28-300 on the *istD. My current condition makes it extremely difficult to carry around extra lenses. However, I hope to improve enough by next spring to take my full complement of lenses to GFM. Bill > > Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that it

Re: Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Juan Buhler
On 9/30/06, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, > including primes. [...] I doubt I can compete with that recommendation from one of the greats. I'll just tell my friend to go Nikon. :) -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhl

Re: Re: K10D vs D80

2006-09-30 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/30/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/30/06, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, > > including primes. > [...] > > I doubt I can compete with that recommendation from one of the greats. > > I'll just

Re: K10D vs D80 at clubic.com (french)

2007-01-15 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/15/07 12:57 PM, "Thibouille", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > D80 got: > Ergonomics: 4/5 > Functions: 3.5/5 > Picture Quality: 4/5 > > K10D got: > Ergonomics: 4/5 > Functions: 4.5/5 > Picture Quality: 4/5 Seeing various reviews, I am convinced that Pentax's investment to beef up their imaging