Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-09 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 9, 2010, at 7:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> On 7/8/2010 3:25 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Derby Chang wrote: Focusing doesn't seem to be an issue here at all, Larry. Nice set. Only thing

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 7/8/2010 3:25 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >> >> On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Derby Chang wrote: >>> Focusing doesn't seem to be an issue here at all, Larry. Nice set. Only >>> thing I would suggest is crop a little tighter. >>> >>> Love that

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/8/2010 3:25 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Derby Chang wrote: Focusing doesn't seem to be an issue here at all, Larry. Nice set. Only thing I would suggest is crop a little tighter. Love that guy playing two saxes What Derby said. Well done. Nice conversions. Pau

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-08 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: >> Last night I was working on being more careful about my focusing, and the >> results seem promising: >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624445835548/ >> >> Exposure under the red lights is still a challen

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-07-08 8:06, Derby Chang wrote: RSE came around at just the right time for me too. Wonderful workflow. There was one bug they only just squashed before Adobe bought them out - pics with clipped red channel would oddly go green (which happened often in my music pics). But for everything el

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-08 Thread Derby Chang
Larry Colen wrote: Last night I was working on being more careful about my focusing, and the results seem promising: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624445835548/ Exposure under the red lights is still a challenge. The best results at JJ's seem to be quite a bit under what

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-08 Thread Derby Chang
Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-07-05 21:49, P. J. Alling wrote: Raw Shooter Professional. The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials, Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy the Professional product. It was simple didn't lock you into any particular way of archiv

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2010-07-05 21:49, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> Raw Shooter Professional.  The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials, >> Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy >> the Professional product. It was simple didn

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-07 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Reply interspersed... > > On 7/6/2010 11:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> There is some truth to this. If I'm shooting static scenes, in good >> light, I don't tend to take quite so many frames. If I'm shooting a >> static scene in challenging lig

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Reply interspersed... On 7/6/2010 11:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote: There is some truth to this. If I'm shooting static scenes, in good light, I don't tend to take quite so many frames. If I'm shooting a static scene in challenging light, I'll bracket the hell out of it in 3 dimensions (ISO, shutter

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 06/07/2010, Boris Liberman wrote: > Larry, I am thinking two thinks :-). > > Think #1: you may be overly trigger happy if you feel like an automaton that > will rid you of immediate duds will be helpful. Not that there's anything wrong with such an approach ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 6, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 7/5/2010 10:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a >> photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical >> criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a l

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-06 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/5/2010 10:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing. Larry, I am thinking two thin

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Jack Davis
William Robb > Subject: Re: Sorting photos > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 4:17 PM > > -- > From: "Larry Colen" > Subject: Re: Sorting photos > > > > >> >

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-07-05 21:49, P. J. Alling wrote: Raw Shooter Professional. The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials, Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy the Professional product. It was simple didn't lock you into any particular way of archiving and produced extre

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Maas
That was it. I remember seriously considering buying it at the time. Ended up going with Capture One somewhat later for much the same reasons (No organizational lockin, VERY good conversions, very good for bathc processing). -Adam On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Raw Shooter

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
History of Lightroom development encapsulated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_Lightroom -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the lin

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Raw Shooter Professional. The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials, Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy the Professional product. It was simple didn't lock you into any particular way of archiving and produced extremely good conversions, and promoted a

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francis wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: >> >> I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be >> based on the PE organizer code. > > Not much, if my memory serves me well. > > Lightroom was developed by a

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
first I've ever heard of a relationship like that, john. And counter to my direct experience with the development team in 2003-2004. On Monday, July 5, 2010, John Francis wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: >> >> I've often wondered how much of the lightroom cat

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: > > I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be > based on the PE organizer code. Not much, if my memory serves me well. Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only got renamed to "Photos

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Brewer
Doug Brewer wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that a

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread David Savage
On 6 July 2010 07:17, William Robb wrote: > > -- > From: "Larry Colen" > Subject: Re: Sorting photos > > > >>> >>> Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to >>>

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread William Robb
-- From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Sorting photos Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit. A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Brewer
paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> >> On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: >> >>> Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a p

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > >> Larry Colen wrote: >>> I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting >>> them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't >>> perfectly, or eve

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread George Sinos
The odd thing about Adobe is where they decide to put various features. The least expensive photo editing/organizing product, Photoshop Elements 8, has this feature. It does a lot of autotagging of photos in the library. One of the tags is an "out of focus" tag. There are several others, "too b

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: >> I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them >> out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, >> or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket c

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Maas
Capture One Pro 5 has a focus filter that highlights areas of the photo that appear to be in focus. So yes, such a thing does exist. It is however notoriously hard on processing hardware. -Adam On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I did some family portraits yesterday, and am goi

Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Brewer
Larry Colen wrote: I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people