Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Thank you for your encouragement, Boris. It all counts :-) regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

From: Boris Liberman John, Gerrit, Anthony - I am very sorry to hear about your troubles... Here hoping that all of them are behind you and your recovery is fast and complete! Thanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE f

RE: What's wrong with the K-01

[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: December 15, 2012 11:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What's wrong with the K-01 John, Gerrit, Anthony - I am very sorry to hear about your troubles... Here hoping that all of them are behind you and your recovery is fas

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

ts. PSA is now undetectable so I guess I am fortunate that it got dealt with in less than a year. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: December 14, 2012 8:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What's wrong wit

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 16 December 2012 11:37, John Sessoms wrote: > Would it be possible for Ricoh-Pentax to offer an auxiliary electronic > viewfinder that would mount on the hotshoe? I'm sure they could, but it would cannibalise sales from Ricoh's GXR. They need to integrate these similar products, not diversify

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 12/15/2012 7:37 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Mark Roberts Brian Walters wrote: That's pretty much how I feel about the K-01. The looks don't particularly bother me - in fact, it looks better in real life that in photos - and if it had come with a viewfinder, I probably would have owned on

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 16 December 2012 10:49, Brian Walters wrote: > What I find a bit baffling is why it is taking so long for Pentax to produce > another mirrorless APS-C camera. > They've obviously got the 'guts' of a good camera in the K-01. Would it be > that difficult to produce a new version with a viewfinde

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

From: Mark Roberts Brian Walters wrote: That's pretty much how I feel about the K-01. The looks don't particularly bother me - in fact, it looks better in real life that in photos - and if it had come with a viewfinder, I probably would have owned one by now. Same here. I was almost tempted

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

What I find a bit baffling is why it is taking so long for Pentax to produce another mirrorless APS-C camera. They've obviously got the 'guts' of a good camera in the K-01. Would it be that difficult to produce a new version with a viewfinder (with or preferably without Newson)? Maybe th

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

No we're not a bunch of old fogies, holding a camera out at arms leingth to focus and shoot with anything longer than a short telephoto is just bad, in fact horribly bad, ergonomics. Placing a minicam, (now calling it that makes me an old fogie), a tripod while staring at it's back panel as if

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Brian Walters wrote: >That's pretty much how I feel about the K-01. > >The looks don't particularly bother me - in fact, it looks better in >real life that in photos - and if it had come with a viewfinder, I >probably would have owned one by now. Same here. I was almost tempted to buy one wit

RE: What's wrong with the K-01

ss invasive and more treatment options. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: December 14, 2012 9:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What's wrong with the K-01 Thanks, John, Christine, Brian. The annoying

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Quoting Bob Sullivan : The K-01 doesn't appeal to me. I've handled the LX recently and it is a jewel. The extra width and weight of K-01 isn't good. And I have no use for Industrial Designers. Put them on the panet with the Marketing people. That's pretty much how I feel about the K-01. The

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 15 December 2012 15:12, Bob Sullivan wrote: > And I have no use for Industrial Designers. > Put them on the panet with the Marketing people. And the telephone sanitizers? I hope your sons are keeping well, chemotherapy is brutal. Thanks for your moral support, even small amounts are surprisi

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Anthony, Sounds like the worst is nearly over. In the scheme of your whole life, this won't be long. (I've had both sons go thru testicular cancer, in their early 20's. The chemo protocol involves trying to kill them, as near as possible.) Get well soon. The K-01 doesn't appeal to me. I've handle

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 15 December 2012 03:56, John Sessoms wrote: > Hope things get better for you On 15 December 2012 04:13, Christine Aguila wrote: > > Sorry to hear, but wishing you speedy recovery, Anthony! Cheers, Christine On 15 December 2012 08:03, Brian Walters wrote: > Anthony - really sorry to hear

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

It's Art. What can I say? "Lockheed Lounges" have topped $US 2 million, when the greenback was still riding high. The example I've seen was in a glass case, probably so the kiddies wouldn't climb all over it. There's only fifteen of them, so the world isn't being denied any meaningful amount of

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Quoting Anthony Farr : Finally, pardon my grumpiness. I have prostate cancer, and last week underwent a brachytherapy implant after a year of hormone blockers. I still hurt (a cough or sneeze is unbearable), have no endurance, scant tolerance, and I have to carry a sieve and a lead container e

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

on 2012-12-14 1:51 Anthony Farr wrote On 14 December 2012 18:17, steve harley wrote: regarding the K-01, the appearance is not awful, but i'd feel awkward with it in public because it is too attention-getting; i think much of Newson's aesthetic is like that; i also have non-Newson concerns: man

RE: What's wrong with the K-01

nt: December 14, 2012 8:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What's wrong with the K-01 Thanks Stan. No longer a problem, there is no old film stock at my house. I do carry a letter from my oncologist to explain any oddities about, for instance, airport security scans and how vita

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On Dec 14, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: > Good result, congratulations but it sounds like you had a rough time. > I'm lucky to be a suitable candidate for brachytherapy, so all going > well I should be cancer free after several months. The pellets have a > half life of two months so th

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

From: Anthony Farr Finally, pardon my grumpiness. I have prostate cancer, and last week underwent a brachytherapy implant after a year of hormone blockers. I still hurt (a cough or sneeze is unbearable), have no endurance, scant tolerance, and I have to carry a sieve and a lead container every

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

From: Anthony Farr On 13 December 2012 14:24, John Sessoms wrote: None of his chairs looked like they'd be comfortable to sit in. And if you did sit on one, I'm certain you'd be shown the door and asked not to return. They're for looking at, not using. regards, Anthony It's a chair you're

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Good result, congratulations but it sounds like you had a rough time. I'm lucky to be a suitable candidate for brachytherapy, so all going well I should be cancer free after several months. The pellets have a half life of two months so they'll be down to 1/64th energy in a year and pretty much spe

RE: What's wrong with the K-01

: December 14, 2012 8:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What's wrong with the K-01 Thanks Stan. No longer a problem, there is no old film stock at my house. I do carry a letter from my oncologist to explain any oddities about, for instance, airport security scans and how vital it is

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Thanks Stan. No longer a problem, there is no old film stock at my house. I do carry a letter from my oncologist to explain any oddities about, for instance, airport security scans and how vital it is that my sieve and my small lead flask are not taken away from me. regards, Anthony On 15 Dec

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On Dec 14, 2012, at 12:28 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: > ... we know how you feel about optical frame 'finders > and wire frame 'finders and live-view-on-the LCD 'finders and no > 'finders. Just don't buy them and see if I care. > > Finally, pardon my grumpiness. I have prostate cancer, and last we

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 14 December 2012 18:17, steve harley wrote: > regarding the K-01, the appearance is not awful, but i'd feel awkward with > it in public because it is too attention-getting; i think much of Newson's > aesthetic is like that; i also have non-Newson concerns: manual focus, grip > ergonomics It so

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 14 December 2012 18:17, steve harley wrote: > you yourself pointed out "chairs not meant for sitting", then flipped to > defending square toilets Different messages answering different issues. If I'd meant them to be part of the same sentiment they would have been posted together. The "chairs

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

on 2012-12-13 22:28 Anthony Farr wrote Or was it an opportunity to infer that Marc Newson is a shithouse designer because he designed a toilet? In fact he designed an entire bathroom range, it'd be a serious omission if a toilet suite wasn't a part of it. don't infer that; i picked it out beca

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

All good points, Peter, no disagreement here. Personally it was a letdown to see the camera hit the shelves without an EVF option, but there it is. I'm not going to get all twisted up about it after the event. Pentax (or any brand) will sell what they want to sell, and if it doesn't suit me it r

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Anthony let me start out by saying I'm sorry to hear about your health issue. Now I started this thread, and let me say my problem with Newson being hired as a designer has nothing to do with his external package per se, but with the fact that Pentax thought that it meant that they could simp

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Thanks, Paul. Sympathy is a good soother, yours is appreciated. regards, Anthony On 14 December 2012 17:02, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Sorry to hear about your condition, Anthony. Here's hoping the pellets do > their job... > > -p > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Sorry to hear about your condition, Anthony. Here's hoping the pellets do their job... -p On 12/13/2012 11:28 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: Answering my own message because I'm addressing a raft of issues from various correspondents in this thread and reaching back through the life of the K-01. I

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Answering my own message because I'm addressing a raft of issues from various correspondents in this thread and reaching back through the life of the K-01. I don't want to single out anyone, it's a collective thang. A Google image search for "toilet suite" will find a lot of square and rectangul

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 13 December 2012 14:24, John Sessoms wrote: > None of his chairs looked like they'd be comfortable to sit in. And if you did sit on one, I'm certain you'd be shown the door and asked not to return. They're for looking at, not using. regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pd

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On 13/12/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: > Half-arsed Pez dispenser! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

Designed for "square shooters". Do you suppose the design carries through to the opening in the inner seat? Would sure shorten one's time in the "reading room". -p On 12/13/2012 12:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a crappy toilet. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danielj

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 12/13/2012 12:56 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-12-12 20:24 John Sessoms wrote He's done some "transportation" stuff that LOOKED Ok - rockets & jet planes, although the little car is kind of ugly. I think the little car might be drivable, but the rockets ain't never going to fly. his $130

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

That is a crappy toilet. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:56 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2012-12-12 20:24 John Sessoms wrote >> >> He's done some "transportation" stuff that LOOKED Ok - rockets & jet >> planes, >> although the little car is

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

on 2012-12-12 20:24 John Sessoms wrote He's done some "transportation" stuff that LOOKED Ok - rockets & jet planes, although the little car is kind of ugly. I think the little car might be drivable, but the rockets ain't never going to fly. his $1300 toilet looks pretty cool, but i have my doub

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

From: William Robb On 10/12/2012 3:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: But he was mostly designing the outsides. I'm sure he had very little to do with the internals. Lots of people design cars who couldn't even tune an engine. I think it's more critical that he was allowed to design a camera but he pro

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

On 10/12/2012 3:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: But he was mostly designing the outsides. I'm sure he had very little to do with the internals. Lots of people design cars who couldn't even tune an engine. I think it's more critical that he was allowed to design a camera but he probably hasn't used on

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

From: Bruce Walker He may be a name within design circles, but he's not a household name is all I'm sayin'. I'm sure the Queen knights lots of individuals that most folks haven't heard of. I thought she just knighted whoever was on the list the government gave her. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

I seriously doubt that he was allowed any say whatsoever into the function of the camera, mechanical, electrical or software. Pentax would have gone to him with a working prototype (in terms of parts and features) and then asked him to repackage it in an interesting way. Let's face it, the K-01i

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

But he was mostly designing the outsides. I'm sure he had very little to do with the internals. Lots of people design cars who couldn't even tune an engine. I think it's more critical that he was allowed to design a camera but he probably hasn't used one professionally, else he'd have understood t

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

He may be a name within design circles, but he's not a household name is all I'm sayin'. I'm sure the Queen knights lots of individuals that most folks haven't heard of. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM, David Parsons wrote: > You don't get knighted by the Queen for being a nobody. > > Like him o

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

But he did finagle his way into designing a camera, and AFAIK had never designed one before. On 12/10/2012 3:52 PM, David Parsons wrote: You don't get knighted by the Queen for being a nobody. Like him or not, but he isn't some kid right out of college who finagled his way into designing a cam

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

You don't get knighted by the Queen for being a nobody. Like him or not, but he isn't some kid right out of college who finagled his way into designing a camera. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > They paid *way* too much to put the name of that "famous designer" who > nob

Re: What's wrong with the K-01

If they'd fixed #2 with an EVF, then the marketing guys (#1) would have had a more compelling story, and #3 (design) would be a non-issue. I'd have considered it with an EVF -- it would have actually useful then, and I could ignore the looks. They aren't all that bad. They paid *way* too much to p

What's wrong with the K-01

Since we how have active threads about the doom of Pentax and the K-01, lets as someone recently said, beat the dead horse from a greasy spot to a smoking crater. What I see as being wrong with the K-01 were three things. 1. Marketing. With the K-01 Pentax once again proved that it has no ab