Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-10 Thread steve harley
On 2011-03-10 19:06 , Rob Studdert wrote: On 10 March 2011 07:42, steve harley wrote: On 2011-03-09 11:19 , Eric Weir wrote: And getting a Unix install up and running vs. getting a Mac up and running -- no comparison. Mac wins hands-down, even over Ubuntu. it's an absolute cinch to get Ubun

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 March 2011 07:42, steve harley wrote: > On 2011-03-09 11:19 , Eric Weir wrote: >> >> And getting a Unix install up and running vs. getting a Mac up and running >> -- no comparison. Mac wins hands-down, even over Ubuntu. > > it's an absolute cinch to get Ubuntu up and running in a virtual mac

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread steve harley
On 2011-03-09 11:19 , Eric Weir wrote: And getting a Unix install up and running vs. getting a Mac up and running -- no comparison. Mac wins hands-down, even over Ubuntu. it's an absolute cinch to get Ubuntu up and running in a virtual machine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know if HAL IBM is actually a coincidence. IIRC, Clark in an interview once made the statement that he and Kubrick made a conscious decision to use HAL for just that reason. On 3/9/2011 1:59 PM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 06:32:52PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/3/9 Jo

RE: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread Bob W
> >> > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix. > >> > >> Ah, but then again so does all current Windows incarnations. :-) > > > > No - Windows NT and later boxes run VMS. > > Thanks, John. What I didn't know, as I checked it out now, was that > VMS and UNIX has no common roots. > you can

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 06:32:52PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote: > 2011/3/9 John Francis : > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 03:54:43PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote: > >> 2011/3/9 Larry Colen : > >> > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix. > >> > >> Ah, but then again so does all current Windows incarnations.

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I spent a whole year trying to transition into Unix before I finally threw >> in the towel and bought a Mac. > > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix. And getting a Unix install up and running vs. getting a Mac up and running -- no c

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix I do realize that. I was referring to my experience with Unix prior to OS X. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew.

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/9 John Francis : > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 03:54:43PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote: >> 2011/3/9 Larry Colen : >> > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix. >> >> Ah, but then again so does all current Windows incarnations. :-) > > No - Windows NT and later boxes run VMS. Thanks, John. What

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 03:54:43PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote: > 2011/3/9 Larry Colen : > > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix. > > Ah, but then again so does all current Windows incarnations. :-) No - Windows NT and later boxes run VMS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/9 Larry Colen : > In case you didn't realize this, Macs run Unix. Ah, but then again so does all current Windows incarnations. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdm

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:43 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> mike wilson wrote: >>> Do you use google mail, by any chance? >>> >>> You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! >> >> I'm still hoping for tot

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-07 Thread eckinator
Yes I severely doubt that. I'm wondering though if there really is that much DOF in the image or if the appearance thereof is a result of magnification and pixel size. Those are some very small insects, mind you. 2011/3/4 AlunFoto : > 2011/3/4 Jos from Holland : >> Does that mean combining the sha

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread mike wilson
On 06/03/2011 17:34, P. J. Alling wrote: Apple still uses you it's just gentler about it. You must have a silencer on your wallet. On 3/6/2011 10:29 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread Eric Weir
Yeah, I thought about that as I was composing the response. The difference, for me anyway, is that even though the Mac is pretty locked-down, too --not really, though -- the Apple people seem to understand human beings better, to know what they're looking for, what will work for them. Everythin

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Apple still uses you it's just gentler about it. On 3/6/2011 10:29 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! That was my complaint about Windows. Don't have that co

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:43 PM, mike wilson wrote: > On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: >> mike wilson wrote: >> >>> Do you use google mail, by any chance? >> >> You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! > > I'm still hoping for total annihilation of MS, Google and Adobe when the > battle fo

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > >> Do you use google mail, by any chance? > > You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! That was my complaint about Windows. Don't have that complaint anymore. ---

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:15 PM, mike wilson wrote: > On 04/03/2011 16:29, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> After reading Jostein's response to Mike I realized I shoulda been writing >> to Mike! My apologies, Mike! Thank *you* for the very clear explanation. > > Er, no. You were right the first time - I jus

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-06 Thread mike wilson
On 06/03/2011 00:46, Steven Desjardins wrote: Resistance is futile. I do it purely for contrary SOB reasons, so it is also intensely satisfying. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, mike wilson wrote: On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Resistance is futile. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, mike wilson wrote: > On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> mike wilson wrote: >> >>> Do you use google mail, by any chance? >> >> You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! > > I'm still hoping for total annihilation of MS, Google and A

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I use Firefox, Google is only the back end, I've set it up to be as unobtrusive as possible, and instituted a number of filters on both Firefox and Google to make it mimic a real e-mail system. Google is still probably using me, but I hardly notice. On 3/5/2011 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: m

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-05 Thread mike wilson
On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! I'm still hoping for total annihilation of MS, Google and Adobe when the battle for omniscience kicks off. With a side order of Apple obliteration.

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-05 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: >Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-05 Thread mike wilson
On 04/03/2011 16:29, Eric Weir wrote: After reading Jostein's response to Mike I realized I shoulda been writing to Mike! My apologies, Mike! Thank *you* for the very clear explanation. Er, no. You were right the first time - I just clarified a small technical point. Do you use google mail

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/4 Jos from Holland : > Does that mean combining the sharp picture parts of different photos into > one photo? Amazing! Indeed. A much used technique for photomicroscopy. However I find it hard to believe he could obtain enough usable exposures for a stack when working handheld. Jostein -

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Toine wrote: > Yes manually in photoshop or with special stacking software. > > On 4 March 2011 22:44, Jos from Holland wrote: >> Does that mean combining the sharp picture parts of different photos into >> one photo? Amazing! Two free examples: tufuse (which I u

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Toine
Yes manually in photoshop or with special stacking software. On 4 March 2011 22:44, Jos from Holland wrote: > Does that mean combining the sharp picture parts of different photos into > one photo? Amazing! > Jos > > On 4-3-2011 22:32, Toine wrote: >> >> He actually mentions stacking in the video.

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Jos from Holland
Does that mean combining the sharp picture parts of different photos into one photo? Amazing! Jos On 4-3-2011 22:32, Toine wrote: He actually mentions stacking in the video. By the looks of the DOF it must be a stack. The amazing part is he's getting usable stacks handheld because the dof is as

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Toine
He actually mentions stacking in the video. By the looks of the DOF it must be a stack. The amazing part is he's getting usable stacks handheld because the dof is as thin as a sheet of paper. I feel lucky if I get one sharp picture from a series of 20 or 30 handheld. On 4 March 2011 22:09, Eric Fe

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Eric Featherstone
Toine's suggestion of focus stacking I'd have thought. Eric. On 4 March 2011 20:13, Jos from Holland wrote: > Jostein, agree with you. > But some of the pictures in this clip have a much better than normal D.O.F. > for a K200 sensor, as if a much smaller sensor was used, what could be the > expl

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Jos from Holland
Jostein, agree with you. But some of the pictures in this clip have a much better than normal D.O.F. for a K200 sensor, as if a much smaller sensor was used, what could be the explanation? Regards, Jos On 4-3-2011 8:13, AlunFoto wrote: To achieve at least a nominal depth of field, you need to

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!

2011-03-04 Thread Eric Weir
After reading Jostein's response to Mike I realized I shoulda been writing to Mike! My apologies, Mike! Thank *you* for the very clear explanation. On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:13 AM, AlunFoto wrote: > I find that the only way to achieve accurate focus is to home in on > the subject with fully open ap

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:13 AM, AlunFoto wrote: > I find that the only way to achieve accurate focus is to home in on > the subject with fully open aperture and then stop down for exposure. > The guy in the video seems to work with the lens already stopped down > when approaching his subject. I think

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-04 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/4 mike wilson : >> Starting with the K-series DSLRs, Pentax abandoned its old TTL flash > > Starting with the cheaper versions of the *ist line 8-) Gee, I didn't know that. Thanks. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread mike wilson
On 04/03/2011 08:13, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/3/3 Eric Weir: Let me see if I understand some of what you say [I suspect I don't entirely]: Absence of aperture coupling is equivalent to using an M lens? Worse. :-) You know, with the M series, there is a mechanical coupler that can be engaged via t

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/3 Toine : > Most amazing is he stacked photo's from live insects all without a tripod. You're right! He must have used stacking. That's unbelievable. Maybe he left out the tripod part just to simplify the video? > I'm using a ringflash and normal macro lens. Sometimes I stack a > Raynox 25

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/3 Eric Weir : > Let me see if I understand some of what you say [I suspect I > don't entirely]: Absence of aperture coupling is equivalent to > using an M lens? Worse. :-) You know, with the M series, there is a mechanical coupler that can be engaged via the Green Button. When you reverse

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread Toine
Thanks Jostein ;) You explained the setup from the video perfectly. It's all manual (his flash looks like an old vivitar). The man is a walking tripod and his eyesight must be above average because his lens is stopped down manually to at least f11 and the tubes also reduce the effective aperture.

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:02 PM, AlunFoto wrote: > The main challenge with working a setup like his, is that you're on > full manual. There's no aperture coupling, so you have to stop down > the lens manually. Also, there's no P-TTL. You need to set the flash > for manual, and figure out the right com

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/3 Eric Weir : > Thanks for posting this, Jostein. Impressed with the frugality of his > "kit" as well as the insects. I'd like to know more about the tubes > and a reversed lens setup, but as I'm not going to be attempting > to emulate him soon -- it would be in still photography -- I'll hol

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I loved it... thanks for sharing. ann AlunFoto wrote: I found this very inspirational: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqRn3at0H60 Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:18 AM, AlunFoto wrote: > I found this very inspirational: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqRn3at0H60 Thanks for posting this, Jostein. Impressed with the frugality of his "kit" as well as the insects. I'd like to know more about the tubes and a reversed lens setup, but a

video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user

2011-03-02 Thread AlunFoto
I found this very inspirational: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqRn3at0H60 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the lin