[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8416] Re: Natural Propositions,

At 07:13 PM 4/23/2015, John Collier wrote: Abduction comes first because it gives the conditions for belonging to a class (one that is to be hoped to be scientifically useful). Of course John is right. An associative network only works if you know what an association means. Howard ---

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8412] Re: Natural Propositions,

At 11:55 AM 4/23/2015, Bob Logan wrote: Could not a process of induction not lead to abduction. That's very likely what happens. A current rough picture of the brain is the associative small-world network model. See also http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn5012#.VTl9-SFViko Howard -

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8412] Re: Natural Propositions,

Bob, The problem I see with that is it assumes that the classes on which the induction works are given already. This is also a problem with Bayesian methods. One of the problems in science is that the classes are often not obvious, and scientific work often involves reclassifications. In the ca

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8410] Re: Natural Propositions, Ch.

Kalevi, Howard, Frederik, How about "trichotomizing" logic a la Peirce: Firstness logic = logic as IS (natural laws) Secondness logic = logic as Experienced or Realized (evolutionary logic, unconscious logic ?) Thirdness logic = logic as Understood/Known (human logic, conscious logic) All th

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[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's 1880 “Algebra Of Logic” Chapter 3 • Comment 7.3

Post : Peirce's 1880 “Algebra Of Logic” Chapter 3 • Comment 7.3 http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2015/04/23/peirces-1880-algebra-of-logic-chapter-3-%e2%80%a2-comment-7-3/ Date : April 23, 2015 at 1:30 pm Peircers, Dyadic relations have graph-theoretic representations as ‘labeled directed graphs wit

Re: [biosemiotics:8399] RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Ch. 10. Corollarial and Theorematic Experiments with Diagrams

Jeff, Jon, lists, Jeff, I think your response to Jon's concerns about Ketner's comments in *A Thief of Peirce* makes good sense, while I'm uncertain exactly what you meant by your concluding comment. Regarding Jon's 1st concern that "icons are not the most general types of signs and so the leap t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8389] Re: Natural Propositions, Ch.

At 08:00 AM 4/23/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote: [snip] In general, it is the universal, formal aspects of reasoning processes which Peirce refers to as "logical" - while the way they are implemented in the human mind is taken to be a different (not less important) issue. Agreed. But there i

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8402] Re: Natural Propositions,

At 12:57 AM 4/23/2015, Joseph Brenner wrote: Peirce's 'lumping' of the alleged opposites of induction and abduction is, rather the recognition that the opposition between them is not so absolute, and indeed they have 'a common feature'. Further, if the criterion for judgement is only the effectiv

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8387] Re: Natural Propositions, Ch. 10:

Frederik, lists, As other listers noted, it is important to consider in what sense the a priori is meant by Peirce, which I am not sure has been quite clarified, and whether this is really the same thing as you indicate your support for in your text. "Your notion of empiricism as you define it, i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8389] Re: Natural Propositions, Ch.

Dear Howard, lists I think the riddle you pose has its answer in Peirce's wide use of the term logic. He used it to cover both semiotics, logic proper, and epistemology/ heuristics/ phil. of science - in short all that which should be studied in order to understand the development of scientific

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Stjernfelt: Chapter 9

Cathy, Jeff, lists, Jeff has taken an interesting approach to trying to meet the issue, but I will try my own take here. Cathy, I note that you specify quantifying the information in a proposition, although this is not the point of the OLEC--that paper has to do with the information of a symbol,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Stjernfelt: Chapter 9

Jeff, lists, I certainly agree that speculative grammar is important for understanding information in his mature semiotic theory, and that of course the analysis of triadic relations must play a big role in that. I am merely lamenting that, despite the rich analyses of triadic relations that Peirc