Gary F., List:
I acknowledge the ambiguity of words like "logic," "phenomenology," and
"semeiotic" in Peirce's writings taken as a whole, and (especially) in
philosophical discourse generally. However, the current topic of
discussion is really quite narrow--where Semeiotic is situated in
Jon Alen, Gary F, list,
In general I agree with your response to John, just a small remark on your
comment on Gary F.
GF: Peirce never says that Semeiotic is a Normative Science ... there is no
single context in Peirce where he applies all three of the words Normative,
Logic and
Jon,
On the contrary, your reply to JS does not address the points I raised at all —
the chief of which was the ambiguity of the word “logic” in Peirce’s usage,
which he managed to gloss over in CP 1.191, the one place where he did use
“logic” in the broad sense (i.e. as semeiotic) while also
Gary F., List:
My reply to John Sowa addresses most of the points that you raised, but I
will touch on a couple of items anyway.
GF: “Normative laws” are those which determine whether a reasoning
procedure is (1) good or bad, or (2) subserves an end or fails to do so,
where (1) and (2) are
John, List:
JFS: Peirce's 1903 Outline Classification of the Sciences (CP 1.180 - 202)
is his last complete version. I used it as the specification for nearly
every solid and dotted line in the attached cspsci.png.
Apparently not. What does that specific passage tells us quite plainly
about
Slight correction: Peirce does use the broader sense of “Logic” in CP 1.191
(EP2:260), in the later part of his “Classification,” but he does not
distinguish between the two senses, nor does he refer to the broader sense as
“Semeiotic” (as he does elsewhere). This confuses the two senses, and
Gary R, Jon, John, list,
I am pretty much in agreement with what John said in his most recent post, but
I’d like to take a step back a bit and try to explain where this terminological
tangle is coming from, because some of Peirce’s most important ideas are
entangled in it.
The three key
Gary R, Jon AS, and Gary F,
Peirce's 1903 Outline Classification of the Sciences (CP 1.180 - 202)
is his last complete version. I used it as the specification for nearly
every solid and dotted line in the attached cspsci.png. I took into
account some of his earlier writings in order to
