Gary R., List:
Indeed, importance and usefulness are in the eye of the beholder, and
predictive success is only one measure. As you rightly point out, the
burden of justification is on anyone who would attempt to disparage,
discourage, or even foreclose further investigation of any given matter,
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John, list
1] I don’t know what you mean by ‘His Commentary’…in your sentence
> But in his important analyses of those subjects, I have not seen him show how
> his theory of interpretants aided him in the discovery and formulation of his
> commentary.
2] And I don’t know what you mean by ’that
Gary,
I believe that the word 'interpretant' is a good label for the way humans and
other living things interpret a sign.
I also believe that his theories of semeiotic and his classification of signs
and sign types are extremely valuable.
But I would ask you, please identify any notable Peirce
Edwina,
I strongly agree with you that Peirce's analyses of those subjects are
extremely valuable. I also believe that his analyses are at the forefront of
21st C cognitive science in those areas. That is a conclusion of my recent
article, of which I recently sent the completed Section 7 to t
John, Jon, Edwina, Helmut, List,
JFS (1/31): "I don't want to discourage anybody from discussing
interpretants."
JFS (2/2): "Let his writings on interpretants rest in peace (RIP)."
and "Conclusion: Neither Peirce nor anybody else ever developed the theory
to make useful predictions about anything.
John, list
I wouldn’t say that the Interpretants are a muddled uselessness.I think they
play a vital role. I think, however, that attempting to find exact and
singular meanings of terms is not very functional.
I use Peirce primarily for analysis of both biological and societal systems -
I
Edwina, Jon AS, Jon A, Helmut, List,
Peirce made immense contributions to 21st century research in all the branches
of cognitive science. But he never found any informative or useful
applications of his writings on interpretants. He was struggling with the
ideas up to the end.
Peirce schola
Supplement: My looking for a simple generator of the theory is not intended, because I would like it. In fact i think, that simple explanations are dangerous. Autocrats and conspiracy theorists frequently use them. The technical term is complexity reduction. If a complex matter is said to have a
Helmut, List:
I am not aware of anything in Peirce's writings that would warrant such an
interpretation. Phaneroscopic analysis of the genuine triadic relation of
representing or (more generally) mediating establishes that any one sign is
determined by its two objects (genuine = dynamical, degener
Jon, List,
we have three classes of context, in which we "either-or-or" divide the interpretant into
-immediate, dynamical, final
-emotional, energetic, logical
-intentional, effectual, communicational.
Maybe these threee classes of context are categorially 1ns, 2ns, 3ns?
A
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