Helmut,
Now you are talking! Excellent post.
"Interaction" is one way of taking relational logic seriously.
But it does not follow that "explanation" (if based on scientific
evidence, may not have any objective definition. Or whatever the term
used. I would prefer the expression: "objective
Jerry R.
You wrote:
J.R. " why do you not even bring up the biology when you're so ready to
bring up matters that are of importance for you?"
IS THERE a certain kind of biology, which deserves to be called THE
biology? - If so, what are the criteria you use?
Biology today is going through
John, Kirsti, All,
Now I think that it was naiive of me to put "explanation" in opposition to "magical thinking", which "reverses cause and effect". Because cause and effect are reversed all the time in what we call "interaction". And "explanation" has no objective definition, it merely is subjec
As per how the Wolpert quote ought to lead, please try a google search for:
The size of embryonic fields is, surprisingly, usually less than 50 cells
in any direction.
And if you're concerned of where actually the ambiguity lies, I'd recommend
looking up bicoid or wnt in morphogenesis.
Best,
Jerr
kirsti, list:
thanks for your response. I am well aware of certain things and not so of
others. But when I raise attention to the sizing and scaling problem, I am
concerned with future objections. It is with that intention I said what I
said. For instance, why do you not even bring up the biol
Jerry R., list
The question of "sizing" electromagnetic "fields" is not the kind of
question to be posed first. (See e.g. Kaina Stoicheia). If you pose the
question, the answer is: Not possible to answer it.
The problem of morphic (etc.) resonance must be tackled before any
measuring of any
Dear Jerry R., list
No theoretical paper gives detailed enough description of the
experiments, experimental designs & the process of conducting the
experiments in order to check its soundness.
Which is a time consuming job & which cannot be done without being
properly skilled in designing an
btw, I was also trying to call attention to the difficult problem of sizing
the field, for different, complex physical/mechanical and chemical
interactions operate across large domains. It's hard to imagine a complete
theory of pattern formation involving a field size of a whole, entire
vertebrate
dear kirsti, list:
I was responding to your remark:
""Morphogenetic field" is just a name, a term standing for a theoretical
concept. Naming is not explaining. - For explaining anything, a theory is
needed, with sound experimental evidence backing it up."
I posted a quote from Lewis Wolpert's the
Dear J. Rhee,
You addressed you post especially to me, but I can't see any connection
to my recent post to the list.
Seeing the host of copies you listed up, I guess you take your point to
be a most important one.
Please do enlighten me on your reasons and grounds.
With most kind regards.
Dear kirsti, all,
"The size of embryonic fields is, surprisingly, usually less than 50 cells
in any direction."
Surprisingly, that makes a morphogenetic field about 500um in diameter.
Best,
J
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 1:10 PM, wrote:
> Helmut,
>
> "Morphogenetic field" is just a name, a term sta
Helmut,
"Morphogenetic field" is just a name, a term standing for a theoretical
concept. Naming is not explaining. - For explaining anything, a theory
is needed, with sound experimental evidence backing it up.
Do you think the experimental evidence Sheldrake has been presenting is
not sound?
Supplement: Sorry, Mr. Laplace, please transform into Lamarck in the below text.
Lalala,
Helmut
Dear list members,
I suggest three steps of more or less innovative thinking: 1.: Dogmaticness, 2.: Open-mindedness, 3.: Magical thinking. I think that the middle way is the best: Open minded
Dear list members,
I suggest three steps of more or less innovative thinking: 1.: Dogmaticness, 2.: Open-mindedness, 3.: Magical thinking. I think that the middle way is the best: Open minded thinking. Dogmaticness blocks the inquiry, and magical thinking reverses cause and effect and leads to fa
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