Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-04 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I suspect the fundamental reality of Peirce's thought was there at the start and that his later work was consistent with what he had always thought. After the PM was in place, everything was clarification. The revolution lay in the work he anticipated would get done in future times as a result of h

RE: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-04 Thread gnox
John, thanks for clarifying, I guess our perspectives are not so different as I thought. But I still think that Peirce's did not have to wait until 1911 to "integrate every aspect of his philosophy" with EGs; I think they co-evolved with those other aspects, philosophical problems being reflected i

Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-03 Thread kirstima
John, Jon, list Some comments in response In Peirce's view logic needs mathematical grounds, but I have not found anything to support the view that there should be such sharp distinction as you propose. – There were many, many classifications of sciences he developed over the years. Of which

Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-03 Thread John F Sowa
On 11/3/2017 10:38 AM, g...@gnusystems.ca wrote: For you, formal logic is a branch of mathematics; for us, though... It's always a bad idea to make claims about anyone else's thoughts, contemporary or historical. It's best to quote their exact words. As for me, I completely agree with Peirce:

RE: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-03 Thread gnox
point of view far from easy to a person as imbued with logical notions as I am." Gary f. -Original Message- From: John F Sowa [mailto:s...@bestweb.net] Sent: 3-Nov-17 00:21 To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6 Gary F, There are

Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-02 Thread John F Sowa
Gary F, There are two separate issues here: (1) the isomorphism between Peirce's 1911 system and his earlier presentations; and (2) the relationship between Peirce's endoporeutic and GTS. About #1, the issues are clear for first-order logic (Alpha + Beta): every graph drawn according to the 1903

Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-02 Thread Jerry Rhee
sulting confusion on Peirce. > > > > Gary f. > > > > -Original Message- > From: John F Sowa [mailto:s...@bestweb.net] > Sent: 2-Nov-17 16:08 > To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu > Cc: Dau, Frithjof > Subject: Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6 > >

RE: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-02 Thread gnox
sion is "isomorphic" to Peirce's 1903 version, and then blame the resulting confusion on Peirce. Gary f. -Original Message- From: John F Sowa [mailto:s...@bestweb.net] Sent: 2-Nov-17 16:08 To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Cc: Dau, Frithjof Subject: Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Low

Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-11-02 Thread John F Sowa
Gary F, Jeff BD, Kirsti, Jon A, I didn't respond to your previous notes because I was tied up with other work. Among other things, I presented some slides for a telecon sponsored by Ontolog Forum. Slide 23 (cspsci.gif attached) includes my diagram of Peirce's classification of the sciences and

Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hi Gary F, List, Gary F: "The implication is that the form of the “scroll” is in some way appropriate to its object, instead of being arbitrarily assigned to that object." The guiding idea for developing each sort of figure in the EG, such as the scroll, is to construct a diagram in which t

Fw: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 2.6

2017-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Gary F, John S, List, The EGs are being developed as a mathematical system of logic. Peirce conceives of the framework within which the system is being developed as a topological system. As such, I'm working on the assumption that it will be helpful to think of the EG as a system of mathematic