space (i.e., where we actual stand)

1994-03-02 Thread DORR
I am not about to jump into Gil and Ajit's debates on GE and Sraffa. Not my cup of tea. But something Jim Devine said, along with the fact that I am teaching Urban this quarter, brought up on of my ongoing peeves. On march 2, Jim Devine said: > (Of course, time is another problem for >Walrasian

Re: Nike

1994-03-02 Thread DORR
Since Tom W's last msg, Paul Phillips and David Laibman have responded with two good explanations concerning the lack of price reductions in the face of huge drops in costs. Together, they explain a lot. The oligopoly maintains its product differentiation thru very expensive advertising ( which

Re: Nike

1994-03-02 Thread DORR
Since Tom W's last msg, Paul Phillips and David Laibman have responded with two good explanations concerning the lack of price reductions in the face of huge drops in costs. Together, they explain a lot. The oligopoly maintains its product differentiation thru very expensive advertising ( which

running shoes

1994-03-02 Thread David Laibman
Dear pen, I noticed Tom W.'s question about non-falling prices, and his wistful note to the effect that the responses did not answer the question: all known price models, including monopoly, suggest that price will fall with demand. Except one: the entry-preventing oligopoly model forma

running shoes

1994-03-02 Thread David Laibman
Dear pen, I noticed Tom W.'s question about non-falling prices, and his wistful note to the effect that the responses did not answer the question: all known price models, including monopoly, suggest that price will fall with demand. Except one: the entry-preventing oligopoly model forma

Re: Nike, again

1994-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Damn, folks are so sensitive. By transient I meant high labor turnover. Sorry. I didn't mean they were irresponsible or sluttish or anything like that. Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Anthony D'Costa wrot

Re: Nike, again

1994-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Damn, folks are so sensitive. By transient I meant high labor turnover. Sorry. I didn't mean they were irresponsible or sluttish or anything like that. Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Anthony D'Costa wrot

Re: Running Further with Internal Funds

1994-03-02 Thread Heather.L.Grob.1
In response to Tom's question, I have no explanation for why shoe industries may need to generate internal funds. Maybe some pen-ller has?Perhaps, if so, its for r and d, to meet Nike's advertising strategy, to build plants in other countries, to meet demand for running shoes in other parts

Re: Running Further with Internal Funds

1994-03-02 Thread Heather.L.Grob.1
In response to Tom's question, I have no explanation for why shoe industries may need to generate internal funds. Maybe some pen-ller has?Perhaps, if so, its for r and d, to meet Nike's advertising strategy, to build plants in other countries, to meet demand for running shoes in other parts

Nike, again

1994-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Sometimes the automated prelies don't work too good. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:17:46 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail: User unknown - Transcript of session follows - While ta

Nike, again

1994-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Sometimes the automated prelies don't work too good. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:17:46 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail: User unknown - Transcript of session follows - While ta

Instead of shoes, how about tuition increases?

1994-03-02 Thread sherman
Dear pen-lers I know that you are discussing a lot about price of shoes relative to the pay of the workers who actually make the shoes. I was wondering if you could discuss why tuition costs are out-stripping inflation several times over since many of you are progressive economists? For example,

Instead of shoes, how about tuition increases?

1994-03-02 Thread sherman
Dear pen-lers I know that you are discussing a lot about price of shoes relative to the pay of the workers who actually make the shoes. I was wondering if you could discuss why tuition costs are out-stripping inflation several times over since many of you are progressive economists? For example,

Re: Running Further with Internal Funds

1994-03-02 Thread Anthony D'Costa
But then is there a norm as to what the advertising budget should be? Should there be a norm? Is this not the classical unproductive activity? Just asking. Anthony D'Costa U of Washington On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Nathan Newman wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Heather.L.Grob.1 wrote: > > > In

Re: Running Further with Internal Funds

1994-03-02 Thread Anthony D'Costa
But then is there a norm as to what the advertising budget should be? Should there be a norm? Is this not the classical unproductive activity? Just asking. Anthony D'Costa U of Washington On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Nathan Newman wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Heather.L.Grob.1 wrote: > > > In

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Though I don't have the figures at hand, prices of goods are increasing less rapidly than services, and durable goods less than nondurables. So the "benefits" of lower wage costs are being passed along though an intensification of Baumol's disease. Brand-name sneakers may be exempt from the trend,

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Though I don't have the figures at hand, prices of goods are increasing less rapidly than services, and durable goods less than nondurables. So the "benefits" of lower wage costs are being passed along though an intensification of Baumol's disease. Brand-name sneakers may be exempt from the trend,

Re: Nike, again

1994-03-02 Thread Anthony D'Costa
I am not sure what Doug means by "transient" teenage women. Malaysia is largely an Islamic nation, with other ethnic groups like the Indians and Chinese. By transient it implies that family structures are loose and women are significantly mobile. I think both of these implied characterizati

Re: Nike, again

1994-03-02 Thread Anthony D'Costa
I am not sure what Doug means by "transient" teenage women. Malaysia is largely an Islamic nation, with other ethnic groups like the Indians and Chinese. By transient it implies that family structures are loose and women are significantly mobile. I think both of these implied characterizati

re: comments on shoes and class from Jim D.

1994-03-02 Thread Blair Sandler
Jim: responding to David Brennan, you refer to "subsumed class processes" and then say you don't see the point of calling them "non-class" processes. But they're *not* non-class, they're subsumed class. What they're *not* is exploitation. For me, the point here is that if we just talk about class,

re: comments on shoes and class from Jim D.

1994-03-02 Thread Blair Sandler
Jim: responding to David Brennan, you refer to "subsumed class processes" and then say you don't see the point of calling them "non-class" processes. But they're *not* non-class, they're subsumed class. What they're *not* is exploitation. For me, the point here is that if we just talk about class,

Re: Running Further with Internal Funds

1994-03-02 Thread Nathan Newman
On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Heather.L.Grob.1 wrote: > In response to Tom's question, > > I have no explanation for why shoe industries may need to generate internal > funds. Maybe some pen-ller has?Perhaps, if so, its for r and d, to > meet Nike's advertising strategy, to build plants in other co

Re: Running Further with Internal Funds

1994-03-02 Thread Nathan Newman
On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Heather.L.Grob.1 wrote: > In response to Tom's question, > > I have no explanation for why shoe industries may need to generate internal > funds. Maybe some pen-ller has?Perhaps, if so, its for r and d, to > meet Nike's advertising strategy, to build plants in other co

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread CIANCANELLI
If labour costs were such a small proportion of overall costs why relocate production at all? Maybe like a lot of "global goods" there's a world wide marketing price policy so the price is perhaps falling in places like German (to counteract revaluation of Mark or recession) but not in the US. I'

Re: GE/Sraffa: Ajit & Gil

1994-03-02 Thread Jim Devine
On Tue, 01 Mar 1994 20:07:27 -0500 (EST) Gil said: > >Such considerations, by the way, are by no means foreign to a dynamic >GE model, so I'm hard pressed to see how this is a special point for >the Sraffian approach. "Dynamic GE model" seems an oxymoron, at least if one interprets dynamics as i

Re: GE/Sraffa: Ajit & Gil

1994-03-02 Thread Jim Devine
On Tue, 01 Mar 1994 20:07:27 -0500 (EST) Gil said: > >Such considerations, by the way, are by no means foreign to a dynamic >GE model, so I'm hard pressed to see how this is a special point for >the Sraffian approach. "Dynamic GE model" seems an oxymoron, at least if one interprets dynamics as i

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread Jim Devine
On Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:57:01 -0800 (PST) Nathan Newman said: (after quoting me) >> I get my sneakers at Price Club, a warehouse store with wholesale >> prices and zero ambiance. > >Which with its merger with Costco (a non-union store) may be helping to >undermine salaries and the standard of livin

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread Jim Devine
On Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:57:01 -0800 (PST) Nathan Newman said: (after quoting me) >> I get my sneakers at Price Club, a warehouse store with wholesale >> prices and zero ambiance. > >Which with its merger with Costco (a non-union store) may be helping to >undermine salaries and the standard of livin

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread Nathan Newman
On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, Jim Devine wrote: > I get my sneakers at Price Club, a warehouse store with wholesale > prices and zero ambiance. Which with its merger with Costco (a non-union store) may be helping to undermine salaries and the standard of living of food and commercial workers in the U

Re: Running further with those shoes

1994-03-02 Thread Nathan Newman
On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, Jim Devine wrote: > I get my sneakers at Price Club, a warehouse store with wholesale > prices and zero ambiance. Which with its merger with Costco (a non-union store) may be helping to undermine salaries and the standard of living of food and commercial workers in the U

Re: GE/Sraffa, Gil and Ajit

1994-03-02 Thread Jim Devine
On Tue, 01 Mar 1994 17:50:02 -0500 (EST) Gil said: >When Ajit replies to my claim that the Sraffian model is just >equivalent to a GE system with a lot of stuff left out by saying >that in Sraffa-land (or what Ajit calls the "surplus approach"), >quote, "The real wage is determined by social and h

Re: GE/Sraffa, Gil and Ajit

1994-03-02 Thread Jim Devine
On Tue, 01 Mar 1994 17:50:02 -0500 (EST) Gil said: >When Ajit replies to my claim that the Sraffian model is just >equivalent to a GE system with a lot of stuff left out by saying >that in Sraffa-land (or what Ajit calls the "surplus approach"), >quote, "The real wage is determined by social and h

Running shoes back and forth

1994-03-02 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
Dear PENners: I am circulating the following exchange to enter it into the current running shoe controversy.Cheers, Message: 32005750, 27 lines Posted: 5:08pm EST, Tue Mar 1/94, imported: 4:23pm EST, Tue Mar 1/94 Subject: RE: Running further with those sho

Running shoes back and forth

1994-03-02 Thread Tom . Weisskopf
Dear PENners: I am circulating the following exchange to enter it into the current running shoe controversy.Cheers, Message: 32005750, 27 lines Posted: 5:08pm EST, Tue Mar 1/94, imported: 4:23pm EST, Tue Mar 1/94 Subject: RE: Running further with those sho

Kinky running

1994-03-02 Thread PHILLPS
Tom Weisskopf asked what would explain the fact that, despite the lower cost of producing Nikes etc., the price hasn't fallen and monopoloy profits arebeing made despite potential competition. One wonders if this does not fit very nicely into Sweezy's kinked (oligopoly) demand curve where, despit

Kinky running

1994-03-02 Thread PHILLPS
Tom Weisskopf asked what would explain the fact that, despite the lower cost of producing Nikes etc., the price hasn't fallen and monopoloy profits arebeing made despite potential competition. One wonders if this does not fit very nicely into Sweezy's kinked (oligopoly) demand curve where, despit

Re: GE/Sraffa: My response to Gil

1994-03-02 Thread Michael Lebowitz
In Message Tue, 01 Mar 1994 20:07:27 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Gil's response to Ajit, Part 2. .. .. >This brings all, or at least most, of the pieces together. Ajit's >argument here encounters a fundamental dilemma: > >EITHER >1) CAPITAL cannot be considered the "bigger story" b

Re: GE/Sraffa: My response to Gil

1994-03-02 Thread Michael Lebowitz
In Message Tue, 01 Mar 1994 20:07:27 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Gil's response to Ajit, Part 2. .. .. >This brings all, or at least most, of the pieces together. Ajit's >argument here encounters a fundamental dilemma: > >EITHER >1) CAPITAL cannot be considered the "bigger story" b