[PEN-L:9890] Re: what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread Tavis Barr
I guess I'd have a slightly different answer. The autocentric economy seems derivative of the postwar import-substitutionist economy, which nobody is really doing much of anymore. Deregulation is happening almost at gunpoint. Manufacturing is becoming unambiguously more global. On the othe

[PEN-L:9892] Re: "jobless growth"

1997-05-05 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 09:47 AM 5/5/97 -0700, Jim Devine wrote: >Wojtek Sokolowski writes that:>> Rising consumption is but a shorthand for >economic growth, so the real question is how can the growth be maintained >without the accompanying change in its traditional Keynesian corelate -- >employment/real wage increas

[PEN-L:9894] Re: "jobless growth"

1997-05-05 Thread James Devine
I wrote: >In terms of my research, what's happened is a shift from the "labor scarce" economy of especially the 1960s, where exuberant growth pulled up wages relative to productivity, to a "labor abundant" economy where this doesn't happen, as in the 1920s. (I'm sorry about the scarce/abundant dic

[PEN-L:9895] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread Doug Henwood
William S. Lear wrote: >I don't know if this will but muddy the waters, but William Greider >recounts a tale similar to Bill Rosenberg's in his _One World, Ready >or Not_, but the target of the speculation was the Bank of England. >George Soros had some fun with them a while ago. I do believe he

[PEN-L:9899] Re: Birthday or holy day?

1997-05-05 Thread Thad Williamson
Perhaps it's best to all keep our eschatological opinions to ourselves, but I certainly would take some comfort (as would others at my institution!) in knowing brother Karl is among the communion of saints. This actually reminds me of a scene as a college student working in Mexico for a summer,

[PEN-L:9906] Re: more on globalization

1997-05-05 Thread Tavis Barr
On Mon, 5 May 1997, James Devine wrote: > the point is that the US economy has changed and is changing, > seemingly at an accelerated pace (whereas you had something like that the > role of exports was stable). My pocket almanac figures tell a different story (sorry, they don't have GDP

[PEN-L:9905] Re: Further to Tavis

1997-05-05 Thread Tavis Barr
Sid, let me start from a different vantage point rather than respond bit by bit, hopefully for the sake of clarity. I agree that there is massive global consolidation in telecom, perhaps more than in any other sector. I agree that competition may be becoming more intense in the local market

[PEN-L:9904] more on globalization

1997-05-05 Thread James Devine
I wrote: >The simple index [ of openness for the US] rises, steadily but with a steepening curve, from 4 per cent in 1959 to over 12 per cent in 1996.< Tavis replies>>Which is to say, not much, relative to the rest of the world.<< agreed, but the point is that the US economy has changed and is

[PEN-L:9903] UN General Assembly Condemns Illegal Israeli Actions

1997-05-05 Thread SHAWGI TELL
On Friday, April 25, an emergency meeting of the General Assembly of the United Nations passed a resolution condemning the construction by Israel of a new settlement at Jabal Abu Ghneim in East Jerusalem and all other illegal Israeli actions in all the occupied territories. The vote was 134 in fa

[PEN-L:9902] NATO Pushes Its Expansion In Eastern Europe

1997-05-05 Thread SHAWGI TELL
In the same week that Russia and China issued a joint statement calling for a "multi-polar world," German Chancellor Helmut Kohl met with President Boris Yeltsin to hammer out disagreements they have on the NATO alliance in Europe. Following the meeting, on April 18, Karlheinz Hornhues, Chairman

[PEN-L:9901] Further to Tavis

1997-05-05 Thread D Shniad
Tavis, let's go through this slowly: "It is in this sense that I am calling much of telecommunications local (though you're right, I hesitated before putting it in there): Hardware services [?] must be provided locally. Consumers must choose between local providers, regardless of who owns th

[PEN-L:9900] Re: Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread Marshall Feldman
>Marshall Feldman wrote: > >>Perhaps one should go back before 1980. Most arguments re. globalization >>allude to a transition in the SSA/MSR c. 1969. So comparing 1960 and >>1997 might be more to the point. > >What then becomes the non-globalized Other of this model? The crisis years >1929-45?

[PEN-L:9898] re: what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread Tavis Barr
On Mon, 5 May 1997, James Devine wrote: > I don't know. I calculated the degree of "openness" or globalization of the > US economy (which is simply the average of imports and exports divided by > gross domestic product; development economists use this kind of measure of > openness all the time)

[PEN-L:9897] Re: what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread Tavis Barr
On Mon, 5 May 1997, D Shniad wrote: > Unless I misunderstand what it is you're arguing, Tavis, I think you're > dead wrong. Telecommunications is based on local markets? There was a > piece in the LA Times recently about the big North American telecom > companies making an unprecedented move o

[PEN-L:9893] re: what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread James Devine
(I know I should be grading term papers, but they're so bad...) Tavis writes:>>I guess I'd have a slightly different answer. The autocentric economy seems derivative of the postwar import-substitutionist economy, which nobody is really doing much of anymore. Deregulation is happening almost at g

[PEN-L:9891] Re: what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread D Shniad
Tavis says> > > On the other hand, the growing service sector is largely based on > local markets: Health care, retail and wholesale trade, transportation, > telecommunications. Unless I misunderstand what it is you're arguing, Tavis, I think you're dead wrong. Telecommunications is based on

[PEN-L:9889] Re: what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread Louis Proyect
At 10:09 AM 5/5/97 -0700, you wrote: >Doug asks: what is the opposite of globalization? > >To my mind, the opposite of globalization is the autocentric economy, where >(on the level of the economy as a whole, not for individual capitalists) >wages are treated as a source of demand and most investm

[PEN-L:9888] In defense of jobless growth

1997-05-05 Thread Michael Perelman
Just after AT&T announced the lay off of 40,000 workers, James Meadows, a vice presidents for human resources, responsible for the policy, explained: ##In AT&T, we have to promote the whole concept of the work force being contingent, though most of our contingent workers are inside our walls. Jo

[PEN-L:9887] "jobless growth" correction

1997-05-05 Thread James Devine
I said "The longer the boom, the longer the 'real economy' is fragile." I meant to say that "the MORE the real economy is fragile." BTW, I am not predicting an instant replay of the Great Depression (though that scenario seems more likely that when I wrote my 1994 RPE article). The US and world e

[PEN-L:9885] what is the opposite of globalization?

1997-05-05 Thread James Devine
Doug asks: what is the opposite of globalization? To my mind, the opposite of globalization is the autocentric economy, where (on the level of the economy as a whole, not for individual capitalists) wages are treated as a source of demand and most investment goods are purchased domestically. This

[PEN-L:9886] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread William S. Lear
On Mon, May 5, 1997 at 09:01:56 (-0700) Doug Henwood writes: >Rosenberg, Bill wrote: > >>An interesting example from New Zealand: a U.S. Bankers >>Trust dealer, Andrew Krieger, claimed that in late 1987 >>he "played" several hundred million - possibly as much as >>a billion - New Zealand dollars a

[PEN-L:9883] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread Michael Perelman
Doug Henwood wrote: So the question isn't really "globalization" vs. its > still-unspecified opposite, but the terms on which the country engages with > the outside world. Yes, yes, yes. But, please, someone tell me how a country can set the terms. What power does a New Zealand, let along a

[PEN-L:9884] "jobless growth"

1997-05-05 Thread James Devine
Wojtek Sokolowski writes that:>> Rising consumption is but a shorthand for economic growth, so the real question is how can the growth be maintained without the accompanying change in its traditional Keynesian corelate -- employment/real wage increase. The jobless growth seems to be a new reality

[PEN-L:9879] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-05-05 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, MAY 2, 1997 RELEASED TODAY: EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- Unemployment declined in April, and nonfarm payroll employment rose modestly. The nation's jobless rate fell from 5.2 to 4.9 percent. The number of payroll jobs rose by 142,000 in April, and average hourly ear

[PEN-L:9878] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-05-05 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, MAY 1, 1997 Alaska and the District of Columbia registered the highest unemployment rates in the nation during March, with both showing a 7.8 percent rate, BLS reports (Daily Labor Report, page D-21). Economic growth shot up at a much stronger-than-expected 5.6

[PEN-L:9877] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-05-05 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 1997 RELEASED TODAY: Most state unemployment rates showed little change in March, as 45 states recorded shifts of 0.3 percentage point or less. The national jobless rate was about unchanged at 5.2 percent. Nonfarm employment rose in 44 states in March

[PEN-L:9876] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread Rosenberg, Bill
My posts on this are going to be constrained by this being a out-of-worktime activity for me (see my signature) despite the topic being close to my heart. Here's a few comments on the messages that have flown by since my last. Sorry if it's a bit long - it's quicker for me that way! 1. Doug Henwo

[PEN-L:9882] Re: Convergence (formerly: whose consumption)

1997-05-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > The jobless growth seems to be a new reality Where? Not in the U.S., certainly. Certainly not in East Asia. Western Europe has no growth, so it doesn't count. Ditto a lot of the former socialist world. Where is this jobless growth happening? I'm desperate to know. Do

[PEN-L:9881] Re: MAI and Foreign Control in Canada, Globaloney

1997-05-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Rosenberg, Bill wrote: >An interesting example from New Zealand: a U.S. Bankers >Trust dealer, Andrew Krieger, claimed that in late 1987 >he "played" several hundred million - possibly as much as >a billion - New Zealand dollars against New Zealand's >currency, leading to a fall by 10% of the val

[PEN-L:9880] Convergence (formerly: whose consumption)

1997-05-05 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 07:02 PM 5/2/97 -0700, June Zaccone wrote: >I have been wondering why consumption has kept up so well despite >stagnant or falling wages for the overwhelming majority of workers. (Of >course, rising debt ratios have helped.) An interesting insight comes from >the Chase Financial Digest: > >