[PEN-L:1558] Re: update (plus "vote no on postal contract")

1998-12-14 Thread Joseph Green
> >>Help me with the lingo please: what does it mean to "go postal"? > > >This refers to the postal workers who occasionally snap from the pressure > >and bring guns to work and start shooting their supervisors or fellow > >workers. There was a rash of this in recent years. > There has indee

[PEN-L:1560] Crisis in Agriculture: The Hog Industry

1998-12-14 Thread Ken Hanly
Commentators who talk of the continuing strength of the US and Canadian economy ignore the agricultural sector. Overproduction and weakening demand in many cases have driven prices of agricultural commodities such as wheat well below the cost of production. As a result US farmers blockade bord

[PEN-L:1557] Re: Re: Rich and Poor

1998-12-14 Thread Ken Hanly
Bill Rosenberg wrote: You are right! I mean correct. Cheers, Ken Hanly > > Ken Hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seems to me Jane Kelsey complained loudly about this manner of > > accounting since it ignores the value of projects that might not > > lead to GNP increases

[PEN-L:1561] Re: Nietzsche

1998-12-14 Thread Brad De Long
>Brad De Long wrote: > >> A critique of humanism allows one to look into many places, including >> the abyss. >> >> And then the abyss looks into you... > > gee, can an abyss look? interesting nightmare you have there brad. >freud may have something to offer you on this fear of holes that 'look

[PEN-L:1559] Re: Re: Re: a popular talk

1998-12-14 Thread michael
Jim Devine wrote: > Strictly speaking an anemic boom means that the US crisis will weak. Jim, I have to disagree with you. It may be that you are correct, but the connection is not necessary. I raised to question to suggest the following possibility: suppose that the U.S. had been ready to go

[PEN-L:1551] Documents on Jim Craven vs. Clark College

1998-12-14 Thread Louis Proyect
1) What Clark College Told Jim Craven: CLARK.COLLEGE A PUBLICLY SUPPORTED COMMUNITY COLLEGE MEMORANDUM DATE: December 9, 1998 REF: CR 98: 138 RE: Directives regarding use of College resources FROM: Chuck Ramsey, Interim Vice President of Instruction TO: Prof. Jim Craven As you know, Clark Col

[PEN-L:1554] Incorrect Model of Language in TRACTATUS ( Was RE AD NAUSEAM_

1998-12-14 Thread Ken Hanly
IN response to Ajit, I was referring to the fact that Wittgenstein thought that his model of how language operated in the TRACTATUS was incorrect. The INVESTIGATIONS is an extended critique of that model among other things. Some people seem to think that it provides an alternative model--that

[PEN-L:1548] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Enlightenment

1998-12-14 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 11:52 11/12/98 -0800, Ken Hanly wrote: > My bit of whimsy mislead you. Of course the Sicilian gesture did not cause the >change in Wiittgenstein all by itself. I always like to pull economical legs. Von >Wright's remarks are probably quite accurate but my remarks do indicate precisely t

[PEN-L:1543] Re: Fwd: Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Tom Kruse
Dear friends: Help me with the lingo please: what does it mean to "go postal"? At 12:23 14/12/98 EST, you wrote: >Louis, > >Thanks for this. Since my mail is being read at the College, I guess even at >home I have to point out that the phrase "provocations that would make Mother >Teresa go posta

[PEN-L:1546] Re: Fwd: Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Louis Proyect
At 05:06 PM 12/14/98 -0400, you wrote: >Dear friends: > >Help me with the lingo please: what does it mean to "go postal"? > This refers to the postal workers who occasionally snap from the pressure and bring guns to work and start shooting their supervisors or fellow workers. There was a rash of

[PEN-L:1527] Re: Message from Jim Craven

1998-12-14 Thread Ajit Sinha
Hang in there Jim! It all sounds so familiar! ajit sinha At 11:42 11/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Friends, > >I just received a memo from our illustrious Interim Vice-President of >Instruction who has reviewed the e-mails I was ordered to turn over at risk of >dismissal from employment for refus

[PEN-L:1526] Re: Re: Enlightenment

1998-12-14 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 12:22 11/12/98 -0400, Ricardo D.wrote: > >Ajit, now that you are reading Wittgenstein I can only defer to you. >Let's say my knowledge of him is based on hearsay. Checking one of >my readily available sources on 20th century philosophy, I can say >that, in the passages cited below, W is qu

[PEN-L:1523] Re: wittgenstein and Sraffa's method

1998-12-14 Thread Ajit Sinha
David Andrews, being so modest, send me this note privately. And I'm putting this on the net without his permission. I hope he is not mad at me for this. >Dear Ajit, > >Generally I'm not one to blow my own horn, but I have a piece called >"Nothing is hidden: A Wittgensteinian interpretation of S

[PEN-L:1522] Re: Re: Re: Enlightenment insight

1998-12-14 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 19:47 11/12/98 +1100, Angela wrote: >hello ajit, > >many of the things you say may well be the case, but a couple of comments: it >seemed to me that 'spectres of marx' was most interesting when it tackled many of >the themes that walter benjamin had tackled; that the notion of surplus value is

[PEN-L:1545] The Prison-Industrial Complex

1998-12-14 Thread valis
I mean to read your cover story, "The Prison-Industrial Complex," closely and end-to-end, but right now I'd like to point out a factor that I think has been overlooked (after hearing you on three talk shows). For the sake of skimming a few hundred bucks per shaved head myopic fools are curre

[PEN-L:1540] Re: To help Jim Craven

1998-12-14 Thread sokol
At 01:36 AM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote: >Remember the CIEC, the broad coalition cobbled together ~3 years ago to >fight the CDA? Apparently it still exists; at least its Website does. >I suppose a secretariat is still in existence, if not more. >Some strange bedfellows here, assuredly,

[PEN-L:1550] Re: Re: Fwd: Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Michael Eisenscher
The expression originates in the experience of postal employees who have historically had to contend with one of the least enlightened managements and most oppressive and stress-filled workplaces. As a consequences there has been a spate of incidents in which postal employees after years of mistr

[PEN-L:1549] Re: Re: Fwd: Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Jim Devine
>>Help me with the lingo please: what does it mean to "go postal"? >This refers to the postal workers who occasionally snap from the pressure >and bring guns to work and start shooting their supervisors or fellow >workers. There was a rash of this in recent years. reading the newspapers, I've se

[PEN-L:1547] Re: Re: a popular talk

1998-12-14 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:21 PM 12/10/98 -0800, Michael P. wrote: >Jim, I would raise the following question: Given the boost from making >labor pliant, new technology, and the opening of E. Europe and China, the >expansion has been anemic. Does that mean that the following bust will be >mild or that the crisis will

[PEN-L:1539] A TV TempestFBaker8212@aol.com

1998-12-14 Thread Louis Proyect
If I hadn't written about "The Tempest" recently, I wouldn't have bothered to turn on NBC's made-for-TV movie version last night at 9pm, an hour that I customarily devote to the X-Files. What's noteworthy about this reasonably serious version of "The Tempest" is that it was done at all. The typica

[PEN-L:1544] Re: Re: Fwd: Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Ellen Dannin
-Original Message- From: Tom Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 1:04 PM Subject: [PEN-L:1543] Re: Fwd: Re: Update >Dear friends: >Help me with the lingo please: what does it mean to "go postal"? >Tom Kruse >Casilla 5812 / C

[PEN-L:1533] email and censorship

1998-12-14 Thread Tom Kruse
Lou writes: >[...] Something tells me that >there are signs of government repression gathering momentum around the use >of email. That is why it is important to fight for free speech on the >Internet. In a time of growing class polarization, one of the few >uncensored mediums will be the Internet

[PEN-L:1536] Mumia for man of the year!

1998-12-14 Thread Paul Zarembka
The message below tell us how to vote for Mumia. Last I looked he was up to 4th position and voting is very easy. Just be sure to use his exact name Mumia Abu-Jamal . Paul Zarembka > >Subject: Check out TIME.com -- Man of the Year 1998 > > > > > > > > Award-winning journalist and former B

[PEN-L:1542] Why Unions Matter

1998-12-14 Thread Michael Eisenscher
WHY UNIONS MATTER WHAT ARE UNIONS? WHY SHOULD ANYONE JOIN ONE? WHY DO EMPLOYERS OPPOSE THEM? by Michael D. Yates "When people asked me for a good, basic introduction to the labor movement I used to draw a blank. Well, here it is at last. Michael Yates' WHY UNIONS MATTER is a comprehen

[PEN-L:1534] Fwd: Re: Updateboundary="part0_913656237_boundary"

1998-12-14 Thread Nativejmc
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_913656237_boundary Louis, Thanks for this. Since my mail is being read at the College, I guess even at home I have to point out that the phrase "provocations that would make Mother Teresa go postal" is simply a metaphor and a bit of hyperbole

[PEN-L:1538] Re: Threats

1998-12-14 Thread Ken Hanly
My earlier response to Louis is a bit one-sided. There may be occasions when threats are genuine or at least the signs are clear that a person may be approaching the stage of going berserk. I can't recall all the details but there was a prof. in engineering, I believe, at a university in Montr

[PEN-L:1535] Re: Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Ken Hanly
Louis Proyect wrote: While there was government involvemment in this case, it was a friend of the defendant that started the ball rolling by sending his email messages to postal authorities; also, it was a jury not a judge or bureaucrat who found him guilty. Seems to me that the case re

[PEN-L:1531] Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Jim, Could you please repeat for us whatever useful email addresses there might be that we can send messages of protest to. Whatever would be helpful to your case. Barkley Rosser On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:12:38 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Just go back from up north and

[PEN-L:1537] Kissinger Should Join Pinochet in the Dock

1998-12-14 Thread Robert Naiman
"On the Left" Sunday Journal(Suburban DC) Sunday, December 13, 1998 Robert Naiman Kissinger Should Join Pinochet in the Dock As the House considers articles of impeachment against President Clinton, it would be amusing if they asked Henry Kissinger to testify. You may recall that the Judiciary

[PEN-L:1530] Re: Update

1998-12-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Craven: >Subject the targeted employee to systematic, calculated and >repeated provocations that would make Mother Teresa go postal and then when >the person reacts, use the reactions to try to show mental instability, >insubordination or being a threat in the workplace without any reference o

[PEN-L:1529] BLS Daily Report

1998-12-14 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_000_01BE277A.5D60D500 BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 11, 1998 RELEASED TODAY: The Producer Price Index for Finished Goods decreased 0.2

[PEN-L:1532] Re: Re: M-TH: Analyzing Neoli

1998-12-14 Thread Jim Devine
which mall? is it the "Mall of America"? If so, then it's so large that a victory for the owner abolishes free speech in a very large piece of real estate. At 10:35 PM 12/13/98 +1100, you wrote: >Another quick one ... > >I hear a nice little capitalism v. democracy issue is unfolding at a >Minna

[PEN-L:1518] Re: In Defence of Humanism

1998-12-14 Thread
hi all, a conversation with someone several hundred kilometres away, via telephone lines of a few thousand... (i'm innumerate, so it doesn't really figure anyway) Rob Schaap wrote: > One or two 'scientific Marxists' aside, we were nearly all humanists in the > mid-seventies and some importan

[PEN-L:1528] From Canadaboundary="part0_913619168_boundary"

1998-12-14 Thread Nativejmc
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_913619168_boundary Dear Friends, This was sent by a friend in Canada who is a tireless activist on Indigneous Peoples Sovereignty questions. I wanted to share it not to point to my own case, but because the lessons and concepts are wide-reach