I wrote:
Also, can't it be said that within the context of
capitalism, any emancipation won due to fast growth and low unemployment is
at best transitory, since eventually the reserve army will be restored, if
not by Greenspan by the slow-down in accumulation that results from
squeezed
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, MAY 19, 2000:
RELEASED TODAY: "Regional and State Employment and Unemployment: April
2000" indicates that regional and state unemployment rates were relatively
stable in April. All four regions registered little change over the
month, and 41 states and the
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, MAY 18, 2000:
College enrollment rates for the 1999 graduating class declined compared
with the class of 1998, according to BLS. The college enrollment of young
women (64.4 percent) continued to outpace that of young men (61.4
percent). Among races and ethnic
Mine,
The monarchy had already been overthrown by
December 1917. The Duma Lenin shut down was
not "under the patronage of the monarchy." The
electoral winners, were socialists and revolutionary
ones. Just a different brand than Lenin's Bolsheviks.
Marx praised the direct election of
Mine,
The monarchy had already been overthrown by
December 1917. The Duma Lenin shut down was
not "under the patronage of the monarchy." The
electoral winners, were socialists and revolutionary
ones. Just a different brand than Lenin's Bolsheviks.
Marx praised the direct election of
No I SAID Duma was a monarchial liberal institution to begin with (1905
February revolution). so why should such an autocratic institution be
maintained under socialism? A new regime requires new institutions and
political restructuring. Duma was a transitory stage on the way to
socialim, once
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use them and shoot them philosophy!
Bracingly clarifying.
I'm very grateful you're nowhere near state power.
Doug
Rob Schaap wrote:
if memory serves, Marx held out hope for revolution by constitutional
means within monarchies during his 1873 speech
Memory serves you poorly. By 1873 Marx had already given up any hope or
expectation of proletarian revolution anywhere. He'd based his life on the
great throw of
actually, you can train me !
Mine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use them and shoot them philosophy!
Bracingly clarifying.
I'm very grateful you're nowhere near state power.
Doug
Mine,
The monarchy had already been overthrown by
December 1917. The Duma Lenin shut down was
not "under the patronage of the monarchy." The
electoral winners, were socialists and revolutionary
ones. Just a different brand than Lenin's Bolsheviks.
Marx praised the direct election
After the debate about China and the WTO, I would like to know
what Max and Marty advocate regarding the legislation that grant
more H1B visas for immigrants with skills that employers say they
cannot find in the U.S. labor force.
The most telling point I've heard is that the U.S. should
And, if memory serves, Marx held out hope for revolution by
constitutional
means within monarchies during his 1873 speech to the Working Men's
Association at The Hague (I think he cited Britain and The Netherlands -
both constitutional monarchies).
Rob, respectfully, you don't get it. Marx saw
Mine,
Frankly I do not understand parts of this remark.
I have not debated with you the nature of socialism
in Russia in 1917 or at any point. Indeed, I think we
both agree that (eventually) the USSR was indeed
socialist. Furthermore, whatever my political views
are is irrelevant to the
The sheer extent of Marx's despair at the end, his absolute repudiation of
events as they'd turned out, his remorseless cynicism about the everyday
world of labour-bureaucracies, with their time-serving placemen and greasy
little deals -- this is something we barely know and can hardly guess at,
Mark,
Is it not also true that Marx had a stroke in the early
1870s that slowed him down greatly after that (and also
did not exactly uplift his spirits)? I stand to be corrected
on this, if not correct, as on so many other matters.
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Mark
Sounds very orange to me
Steve
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Doug Henwood wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use them and shoot them philosophy!
Bracingly clarifying.
I'm very grateful you're nowhere near state power.
Doug
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/19/00 05:47PM
CB: So many here are holier than them Soviets.
sez me:
I've never sent a bunch of troops to suppress the beginnings of democracy
in Czechoslovakia.
in response:
CB: Democracy "began" when there when the Nazis were removed by the Red Army.
I
Jim Devine wrote:
No, I'm arguing that we need to go beyond simply being in favor of full
employment. (Bumper sticker summary: "Full Employment is Not Enough!" or
"We Don't Just Want Bread, We Want Roses, Too!") This is especially true
since there are other
Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/20/00 09:02AM
Brad De Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/00 12:55PM
Sam, look it. You fucked up, and you fucked up royally. Admit it,
and go on from there.
The question you must ask yourself is why did you feel it necessary
to make a big thing out of a tautology
Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/00 02:49PM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use them and shoot them philosophy!
Bracingly clarifying.
I'm very grateful you're nowhere near state power.
__
CB: This sounds like you think like it would be better if you were somewhere near
state power.
Max Sawicky wrote:
We've done that number. It's 126.4
I've never done 126.4. Do you have to raise your hand first?
Tom Walker
Charles Brown wrote:
CB: This sounds like you think like it would be better if you were
somewhere near state power. Holier than she is , are you ?
Nope, I'm an infidel, suspected of bourgeois tendencies even.
Doug
First, let's start with the word socialism and what it means. To me the minimum
would be some socialisation of the means of production (I distinquish this from
nationalisation). This entails the establishment of democratic institutions
capable of managing that control. I take this to be what Marx
Nice post, Rod! And I tend to side with Barkley on the SR Constituent
Assembly, too - which seems to me to have been a more promising midwife for
the sort of transformations you discuss (especially in light of the
resolutions they were passing in their last days) than the dictatorship of
a
But, you see, Lenin had the blessing of History on his side. What
matter majorities and elections when you are doing the will of
History?
Brad DeLong
"History does nothing, it 'possesses no immense wealth', it 'wages no
battles'. It is man, real, living man who does all that, who
Charles Brown wrote:
CB: This sounds like you think like it would be better if you were
somewhere near state power. Holier than she is , are you ?
Nope, I'm an infidel, suspected of bourgeois tendencies even.
Doug ...who goes to parties with the Treasury Secretary.
I heard that as far as
Brad De Long wrote:
I heard that as far as Wolfensohn was concerned, the last straw was
Stiglitz calling *his* *own* former staff at the World Bank "third
rate"...
Yup, I've heard that too, and from a very reliable source.
Doug
Rod Hay wrote:
First, let's start with the word socialism and what it means. To me the
minimum would be some socialisation of the means of production (I
distinquish this from nationalisation).
One of the factors why people construct their language in such a
dichotomic fashion is because they
Can anyone suggest accessible and readable articles or books on the
differences between Canadian and US labor laws? Thanks.
Michael Yates
forwarded..
A view from Washington-based analysts?
May I have permission to post a long (about 40Kb) piece by Walden
Bello and Anuradha Mittal (under the Institute for Food and
Development Policy by-line as well as Focus on the Global South, a
Bangkok-based NGO think-tank) taking quite an
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:46:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Against China PNTR
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
Should China be fully immersed into the corporatized global economy?
The debate over
At 08:02 PM 05/22/2000 +0100, you wrote:
Rob Schaap wrote:
if memory serves, Marx held out hope for revolution by constitutional
means within monarchies during his 1873 speech
Memory serves you poorly. By 1873 Marx had already given up any hope or
expectation of proletarian revolution
Mark Jones wrote:
Newton (who also went mad, for the same kinds of reasons)
Ahem. Newton suffered from mercury poisoning.
Carrol
On the other hand, Jim, here's this delightful quote from the _New
Republic_, September 1945 ("The Road to Freedom: Full Employment"):
Oh yes, back when TNR was a good magazine.
"Our experience with periods of labor shortage indicates that its first
effect is greatly to increase the
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
The election of December saw a victory
by the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Lenin had no good
excuse on Marxist grounds for denying them power.
I don't quite see how "Marxist grounds" bear one way or the
other on this question. There is not that direct
At 06:54 AM 05/23/2000 +1000, you wrote:
Nice post, Rod! And I tend to side with Barkley on the SR Constituent
Assembly, too - which seems to me to have been a more promising midwife for
the sort of transformations you discuss (especially in light of the
resolutions they were passing in their
by the way, do you have any evidence to your claims from German Ideology?
Mine
Jim Devine wrote:
yes, it's true that the actual revolution in Russia turned into the kind
of sh*t that he and Engels predicted would occur if a revolution
occurred in a poor country (in the GERMAN IDEOLOGY).
elections? I am not quite sure about the meaning. Which elections can you
show that can really allow me to participate in the selection of people
who run the society".I do not elect bankers!.I do not elect
corporations!.I do not elect multinationals!.They are there illegitimately
(even judged
How about electing your own union reps? Officials? Is that something we
can get rid of after the rev. also?
Steve
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