Charles:
On the theory, I am giving you a theoretical , not post hoc imagery
history of the causal relationship between slavery/colonialism and
the origin of capitalism: Capitalism, theoretically is, wage-labor +
accumulation + competition. This was true right at the rosy dawn of
capitalism.
maoist news from my father in law:
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Dear Norman,
Now the situation of Nepal is little better after using the
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CB: First, I think that slavery and colonialism involved class
struggles as much as the inclosure movement in England. So, the
claim that slavery and colonialism were also originating causes of
capitalism is just as much an emphasis on the primacy of
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2000
__Wages paid by private industry employers rose 4.1 percent over the year
ended in September, but benefits costs jumped 6.0 percent, according to the
Bureau of Labor Statistics. Driven mainly by higher health insurance costs,
the rise in benefit costs
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What do you think of John Ashworth's work?
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CB: I am not familiar with his work, but here's some theory for these facts so we
don't fall into empiricism.
Lacking or waning of profit maximization may exactly be why the slaveocratic
capitalists
Wait a minute. I have not been on e-mail all weekend so it will take time to
catch up. But if we are going to have a productive dialogue--which we have been
for the most part and can continue to have--on what we all consider a very
important set of issues, then we will have to do a few things.
Yoshie, have you been "saved" by the Brenner analysis or something?
(If the answer to the last question is "no" then Yoshie will know I am doing
some friendly teasing, because either she knew I was not making the
argument as
she portrayed it, or she missed it in her zealousness to win a
A friend forwarded a message to me that argued that "a vote for Nader is a
vote for Bush, so that if Bush wins, it will be Nader's fault." Here's my
reply, amplified a bit:
If Gore loses, it's his own fault (or his campaign's). He's really
nothing but Michael Dukakis plus focus groups that
Did I ever say that "slavery was necessary for capitalism"? I may have said it
was *historically necessary*, which is not the same thing (and is also not
"empiricism"). What I have been arguing from the beginning is that the
Enslavement Industry and Trade was part of capitalism, and not some
On Lynching And The Ku Klux Klan
By Ho Chi Minh (1924)
It is well known that the Black race is the most oppressed and the
most
exploited of the human family. It is well known that the spread of
capitalism and the discovery of the New World had as an immediate
result the
rebirth of slavery,
The question of capitalism and slavery may be addressed in a number of ways.
1) One may develop the notion of a racial formation, that is not reducible to
capitalism, but yet is interwoven with it, so that the Enslavement was just one
historical incarnation in the development of capitalism and
I has a run-in with the Kenyon polisci dept in what, 1993 or 94. I was
invited to speak at a conference they had there on Marxism. I was on a panel
with a very smary guy from the Dept, pretty young, very conservative, a
Straussian. thered were also some old Straussians who were attacking
Justin Schwartz said on 10/30/00 12:35 P
For them as don't know, Straussians are followers of the U of Chicago
political theorist Leo Strauss, who has a sort of cult about how to read
classical texts of political philosophy for hidden esoteric messages
advocating reactionary and aristocratic
All points that Marx makes himself in Capital, vol. 3, chap. with title
something like: "Some Historical Facts Concerning Merchant Capital."
Colin writes:
A similar point could be made about this business of moving from
merchant to industrial capitalism. While this simplified historical
model
A friend forwarded a message to me that argued that "a vote for
Nader is a vote for Bush, so that if Bush wins, it will be Nader's
fault." Here's my reply, amplified a bit:
If Gore loses, it's his own fault (or his campaign's).
Take responsibility for the actions of your faction. It's the
Michael Perelman said on 10/29/00 7:28 P
Martin, exactly. They line up for the few good jobs. The majority will not
succeed and will become unemployed.
I'm sorry if I interrupted a point you were trying to turn into a thread.
I read that they would join the queues of the unemployed and not
It pains me to think their either Bush or Gore will win. The best we can hope
for is gridlock.
I do have one question. Why do you think that the media has been so much
harder on Gore?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
So the English feudal ruling class was unique in that its extra-
economic powers were "increasingly concentrated in the central
state" beginning with the Norman conquest in the eleventh century.
Long before their continental counterparts, English lords were
"demilitarized" and deprived of
It pains me to think their either Bush or Gore will win. The best we can hope
for is gridlock.
I do have one question. Why do you think that the media has been so much
harder on Gore?
Who pays their bills?
Brad DeLong
Mat wrote:
Did I ever say that "slavery was necessary for capitalism"? I may have
said it was *historically necessary*, which is not the same thing (and is
also not "empiricism").
What is meant by "historically necessary"? I know what "necessary" means
(as in oxygen being necessary to fire).
I wrote:
A friend forwarded a message to me that argued that "a vote for Nader is
a vote for Bush, so that if Bush wins, it will be Nader's fault." Here's
my reply, amplified a bit:
If Gore loses, it's his own fault (or his campaign's).
Brad writes:
Take responsibility for the actions of
Ricardo: This is over The subject is exhausted.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
So the English feudal ruling class was unique in that its extra-
economic powers were "increasingly concentrated in the central
state" beginning with the Norman conquest in the eleventh century.
Long before their
Clinton/Dole have been very kind to them. The disgusting telecommunications bill
Recall that Dole was the one who denounced it.
Brad DeLong wrote:
It pains me to think their either Bush or Gore will win. The best we can hope
for is gridlock.
I do have one question. Why do you
Mat:
Did I ever say that "slavery was necessary for capitalism"? I may
have said it
was *historically necessary*, which is not the same thing (and is also not
"empiricism"). What I have been arguing from the beginning is that the
Enslavement Industry and Trade was part of capitalism, and not
Michael wrote,
It pains me to think their either Bush or Gore will win.
It pains me too.
But the bottom line is who do you want--Bush or Gore--appointing
people to, say, the National Labor Relations Board?
Eric
In this era of domination by big banks , multinational corps., corp
conglomorates , etc,
elections are controlled by by these most powerful sections of capital
and their Parties thru their state and the mass corp. media . Over $3
billion will be spent by the Demopublicans in this year alone
full article at
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001030/pl/economy_congress_dc_1.html
Monday October 30 2:46 PM ET
U.S. May Miss WTO Deadline on Tax-Break Plan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican leaders in the U.S. Congress warned on
Monday that a standoff over tax cuts may doom for the year
Marx argues that while slavery facilitated so-called primitive
accumulation, eventually it became an *economically backward*
institution, dependent upon extensive increase of new territories
with a naturally fertile soil, *not* upon capital-intensive
cultivation. It goes without saying that
Hi Colin (who wrote to Jim D.):
2. Apriorism
You don't think that systems of patriarchy and ethnic domination are
conservative, a matter of those in charge fighting to preserve their
powers
In this reductive sense capitalism would qualify too -- wealth-holders
also fight to protect their
full article:
http://www.economist.com/World/na/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=397606CFID=2252
02CFTOKEN=41668739
Shareholders are more likely to vote than non-shareholders; so it is
possible that almost two-thirds of the voters this time will be
shareholders, compared with just over a third in 1996.
A great post.
Gene Coyle
Carrol Cox wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the bottom line is who do you want--Bush or Gore--appointing
people to, say, the National Labor Relations Board?
If enough progressives think like this, by (say) 2012 the bottom line
will be do you want someone
I wrote
But the bottom line is who do you want--Bush or Gore--appointing
people to, say, the National Labor Relations Board?
Carrol responded
If enough progressives think like this, by (say) 2012 the bottom line
will be do you want someone like Buchanan or someone like Gerald R. K.
Smith
Eric, Perot was a major factor in making the deficit such an important issue.
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:42:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the hope is that a growing Green Party--and a 5% Nader vote--will help
things down the road, just remember what happened to the (at the
A Gore administration would provide a much better space for progressive
movements to grow in than a Bush administration. Just remember the very
sad
years we had when Reagan and his folks were in power.
Really? Can you say how the 'space' provided
by Clinton since 1992 has facilitated the
Eric N. wrote:
But the bottom line is who do you want--Bush or Gore--appointing
people to, say, the National Labor Relations Board?
do you think that the Clinton/Gore policy of encouraging the mobility of
capital has strengthened the power and influence of the NLRB? or weakened
its
I wrote: Were does the _sole_ come from? not from me. I'd say "main," not
"sole,"
Colin writes:
I give up trying to pin down your notion of juggernaut capitalism [i.e.,
that capitalism is like a juggernaut].
I hope that means that you have stopped trying to put words into my mouth
-- such
I'm going to add one minor refinement to Carrols argument (for which of
course he is in no way responsible).
The lesser of two evils arguement is one that will be available to the
Democratic party as long as we have a two party system. This is because
the Republicans are guaranteed to always
To Yoshie:
While Marx, etc. spoke of capitalism revolutionizing the means
of production, I haven't heard any feminist argue that
patriarchy revolutionizes the means of reproduction or
anything else for that matter. :)
If you look at '70s-vintage radical feminism you'll find almost
mbs wrote
Really? Can you say how the 'space' provided
by Clinton since 1992 has facilitated the growth
of progressive movements?
I would submit that the space provided by Clinton was greater
than Bush elder/Dole would have provided.
Would progressive movements have been better off today if
Michael wrote
Eric, Perot was a major factor in making the deficit such an important issue.
Possibly true. But the Reform Party itself has crashed and burned (which was my
point). Might not the same fate befall the Green Party?
Eric
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I just got off the phone with one John Murdoch, who is one of the two
Pacifica board of trustees whom the Save Pacifica movement has targeted for
removal. Their website describes him and the other target as follows:
Michael Palmer, treasurer of the Pacifica board, has publicly advocated
selling
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