Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread ScottH9999
In a message dated 4/26/01 8:22:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > avi narayan wrote: > > > > Carrol Cox wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone have a better definition of positivism? > > > > > > > http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/l/logpos.htm > > > > is a good start at

Re: Re: Re: question on trade _theory_

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pollak
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Jim Devine wrote: > Anwar Shaikh has a good article. Do you have a cite handy for that article? Michael __ Michael PollakNew York [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread ALI KADRI
Evolution... revolution bla bla bla, this game costs me a fortune every time we go to the store the kids grab a few packs off the shelf and force me under duress to pay for them. It is a conspiracy against working parents... --- Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from SLATE: > >The NY [TIMES]

Parochialism and spam

2001-04-27 Thread Keaney Michael
Rob Many thanks for your detailed news round-up. In asking several questions I didn't expect the lowdown on each and every one, though pleased to have got it. You mentioned: East Timor is an ex-story. This is a little puzzling, and significantly more worrying, given the role being played by G

Great Plains Depopulation

2001-04-27 Thread Keaney Michael
Michael Pollak wrote: I'd also like know more about rain forest ranching. Edward Luttwak wrote an article recently in the London Review of Books about his ranch in Bolivia that was both interesting and odd, and I'd love to be able to place it in a larger context. = Luttwak is both interest

Re: Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?) was Re: philosophy ofscience

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Savage
Carrol, In my experience positivism means whatever its critics say it means. I began a PhD looking at 'post-positivism' in International Relations, where critical theorists, constructivists, feminists and post-structuralists have grouped themselves together through a common hostility to pos

Rules of engagement

2001-04-27 Thread Louis Proyect
The New York Times, April 26, 2001, Thursday, Late Edition - Final Ex-Senator Kerrey Says Raid He Led in '69 Killed Civilians By AMY WALDMAN Bob Kerrey, a former United States senator who won the Medal of Honor for his military service in Vietnam, has acknowledged that a combat mission he l

Re: Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Andrew Hagen
To add to the comments, there is usually recognized a difference between the positivism of science and legal positivism. The positivism of science has been held up as the natural successor to metaphysics, also known as ontology, just as metaphysics was the natural successor to religious belief. Th

Re: Great Plains Depopulation

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.linguafranca.com/print/0101/cover_cons.html Cover story on Luttwak and John Gray. www.wildrockies.org/buffalo See pg. 15 of the Global Warming issue of In These Times for a short write up on this "Buffalo Field Campaign' Org. in Montana. www.inthesetimes.com The April 30th issue, also s

Re: Re: Great Plains Depopulation

2001-04-27 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Pugliese wrote: >http://www.linguafranca.com/print/0101/cover_cons.html >Cover story on Luttwak and John Gray. I had the author of the piece, Corey Robin, and Luttwak on the radio when the issue came out, and Luttwak was emphatic that he was never a "conservative." He sees himself as a

Re: Re: Re: Great Plains Depopulation

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Heh, sometime ago in the Stanford library stacks after spending a day at the Hoover Institute, I found bound volumes of New America, the Social Democrats, USA newspaper. From 1972, there was an event addressed by one of their members, Richard Perle, the aide at the time to Scoop Jackson. Perle nic

Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
Concerning the all-important Pokemon issue, Ali Kadri wrote: >Evolution... revolution bla bla bla, this game costs >me a fortune every time we go to the store the kids >grab a few packs off the shelf and force me under >duress to pay for them. It is a conspiracy against >working parents... have y

Re: Re: Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?) was Re: philosophy ofscience

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
Michael Savage wrote: >In my experience positivism means whatever its critics say it means. I think that's right. So when I criticize "positivism," I make it very clear what I mean by that term (or use someone else's definition). While I try to use definitions that fit with the conventionally-u

Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
Beating on "positivism" is beating a dead horse, if logical empiricsim is meant--at least in philosophy. However there are serious inaccuracies in the following that I will comment on. > > > >Most of the folks attempting to answer Carrol's question about postivism >have >been referring to A

Re: Re: Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
Unlike logical positivism, legal positivism is alive and well. The two views have only very rough structural analogies, LogP is an articulated set of philosophical doctrines about language and knowledge. LegP is a view about the nature of law. As fara s I can tell the only point in common his t

Re: Re: Re: Great Plains Depopulation

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:38 AM 4/27/01 -0400, you wrote: >>William F. Buckley Jr. says, "The trouble with the emphasis in >>conservatism on the market is that it becomes rather boring. You hear it >>once, you master the idea. The notion of devoting your life to it is >>horrifying if only because it's so repetitio

left historical trivia

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
[was: Re: [PEN-L:10895] Re: Re: Re: Great Plains Depopulation] Micahel Pugliese wrote: >Heh, sometime ago in the Stanford library stacks after spending a day at the >Hoover Institute, I found bound volumes of New America, the Social >Democrats, USA newspaper. From 1972, there was an event address

Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
The Eagle Forum has a campaign against Pokeman too. Yup, that's from Phyllis Schlafley. Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:20:17 +1000 From: "Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The Illuminati - Part 15 - TV - The Perfect Mindcontrol Device (Svali)

GDP Byte, by Dean Baker, 04/27/01

2001-04-27 Thread Robert Naiman
GDP Byte, by Dean Baker, 04/27/01 Plunging Imports Keeps GDP Growing __ Measured in net national product, the "new economy" productivity upsurge has been completely invisible in the last three quarters. __ A decline in

Re: Re: Re: Re: Great Plains Depopulation

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Buckley like Pat Buchanan had a Father that supported Franco, if memory serves. See the John Judis bio of WFB, Jr. Pat as a kid (see his autobio) revered the three Mac's. Joe McCarthy, Douglas MacArthur and ? Buckley has said (see also, "The Conservative Intellectual Movement in America, " by

Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
Svengali wrote: >Have you ever watched a young child who is watching cartoons like this? >Their eyes glaze, their jaw goes slack, and they stop EVERYTHING and even >breathe more slowly. Once again, I am not a fan of TV per se for this very >reason, and especially for young children. It's interest

21 Members of Congress ask Treasury to Stop IMF-World Bank Destruction of Mozambique's Cashew Industry

2001-04-27 Thread Robert Naiman
Please forward. For more information contact Jonathan Fremont in Representative Cynthia McKinney's office, 202-225-1605. Congress of the United States Washington, DC, 20515 April 26, 2001 Mr. Paul H. O'Neill Secretary Department of the Treasury 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20220

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
I sent this out by mistake. What appears below is corrected & completed. Svengali wrote:> Have you ever watched a young child who is watching cartoons like this? Their eyes glaze, their jaw goes slack, and they stop EVERYTHING and even breathe more slowly. Once again, I am not a fan of TV per se

Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Howard Selsam! See C. Wright Mills review cited in the collected essays ed. by fink, I.L. Horowitz. "Socialism and Ethics, "Political Science Quarterly, March, 1944. Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: "Justin Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday,

Re: left historical trivia

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.pir.org/gw/sdusa.txt GroupWatch was compiled by the Interhemispheric Resource Center, Box 4506, Albuquerque, NM 87196. http://www.irc-online.org/ GroupWatch files are available at http://www.pir.org/gw/ Group: Social Democrats, USA File Name: sdusa.txt Last Updated: 11/89 Princi

Re: standard of living

2001-04-27 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
If some reviewers or commentators have concentrated on the question of coal and the steam engine in their evaluations of Pomeranz, others insist there is still much to be learned re comparisons of caloric intake, life expectancies, distribution of income, real wages, and so forth. Jeffrey Will

Re: Re: Re: Re: question on trade _theory_

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 04:48 AM 4/27/01 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Jim Devine wrote: > > > Anwar Shaikh has a good article. > >Do you have a cite handy for that article? Anwar Shaikh, "The Laws of International Exchange" in Edward J. Nell, ed. _Growth, Profits, and Property: Essays in the Revival of P

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Eric Nilsson
Jim D wrote, >including (yuk!) Pokemon You got to get into Rugrats. We don't have cable so we only see it via rented videos every few weeks (you also avoid the commercials that way!). One could argue that Rugrats is a bit subversive--as much or more so than the Simpsons. It certainly is very cr

Re: standard of living II

2001-04-27 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
On the other hand, this whiole debate about living standards may be irrelevant, if we are to believe Greg Clark who, in the EH.R Forum, 1997, wondered should we "conclude that since Yangzi Delta living standards equaled those of England, the Yanzi Delta must have been as technologically advanc

Review of Pomeranz book

2001-04-27 Thread Louis Proyect
Kenneth Pomeranz, The Great Divergence: China, Europe, and the Making of the Modern World Economy. The Princeton Economic History of the Western World. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2000. x + 382 pp. Appendices, Bibliography, and Index. $20 Cloth ISBN 0-691-00543-5. Reviewed for H-Wo

Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread ravi narayan
Justin Schwartz wrote: > > Beating on "positivism" is beating a dead horse, if logical empiricsim > is meant--at least in philosophy. > i am not entirely sure you are right, especially since there is no clean line of separation of philosophy from other fields. the motivation underlying many o

California farm economy

2001-04-27 Thread Tim Bousquet
At the risk of being accused of having too parochial a view, I think PEN-Lers might find this interesting: The following facts may lead to the end of rice production in Butte County: Rice farmers in southern Butte County are making about $200/acre on their crop. It takes 3 acre-feet/acre to gro

Re: California farm economy

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't think that this is parochial at all. We had a recent thread regarding water farms, where people buy farms, just for the water rights. I am far from alone in suspecting that water shortages will be moving to center stage soon. Those with acess to water will have enormous power. Yet li

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: > > But Hollywood > > produces dreck (1) because people want > > it, Eric writes: >In other contexts I'm sure Jim could be more >careful not to make such an extreme claim. How >kids, and parents, come to want "low culture" is a >complex process mostly involved, I think, with the >nature

CIA & Nazi's update

2001-04-27 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11896-2001Apr27.html Documents Show Nazis' Role in U.S. Intelligence By George Lardner Jr. Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, April 27, 2001; 3:28 PM U.S. intelligence agencies used a rogue's gallery of Nazi war criminals after World War II, som

Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread ScottH9999
In a message dated 4/27/01 8:39:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Beating on "positivism" is beating a dead horse, if logical empiricsim is > meant--at least in philosophy. However there are serious inaccuracies in the > following that I will comment on. > Just

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Eric Nilsson
Jim wrote, > yeah, tastes are a "dependent > variable," but that doesn't say that people > don't have bad taste a lot of the time > (and I don't exclude myself from this). The key is not whether you have bad tastes, but whether you feel _guilty_ for having bad taste: that is, whether you have "me

Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
Sorry about the intemperate tone of the last post. Scott's comments on positivism, to which I was replying, were very confused, but I was wrong to have used rude language, and I apologize. I should explain that I was trained as a philosopher of science by, among others, Carl Hempel, an origina

hopeful note

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't have access to the article right now, only the abstract. Brian J. L. Berry, Euel Elliott and Edward J. Harpham. 1995. "Long Swings in American Inequality: The Kuznets Conjecture Revisited." Papers in Regional Science, 74: 2 (April): pp. 153-74. In the two hundred year history of American

Re: CIA & Nazi's update

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Perelman
What is surprising is that this is considered to be "news." The role of Gehlen and his crew of Nazis was pretty well known. Ian Murray wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11896-2001Apr27.html > Documents Show Nazis' Role in U.S. Intelligence > > By George Lardner Jr. > Washi

Re: Parochialism and spam

2001-04-27 Thread Rob Schaap
Hi again Michael, > So how does this fit in with Dubya's trans-Pacific sabre-rattling? > Does Howard really want to get involved in that? Yep, and he is involved. He's playing his self-appointed role as unpaid deputy to the embarrassing hilt, enjoying a very public slanging match with Beijing a

Re: Re: CIA & Nazi's update

2001-04-27 Thread Ian Murray
> What is surprising is that this is considered to be "news." The role of Gehlen and his > crew of Nazis was pretty well known. It could be an intergenerational thing; young reporter, telling the story for someone in his age bracket or some such. Plus, you're by no means

Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
Scott, You are right to reproach me for my caustic and rude tone, and your responded better than I deserved, for which thanks, and I apologize directly to you. We disagree on many things, however. I do have tremendous admiration for the logical positivists. I probably am a lot closer to the po

Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?) was Re: philosophy of science

2001-04-27 Thread Ken Hanly
How can you be so sloppy Justin? As you know there are two distinct types of cognitively meaningful statements according to logical positivists/empiricists those you set out here and those which represent propositions analytically true or false. Examples of the latter would be anything of the form

Global AIDS "war chest"

2001-04-27 Thread Chris Burford
This appears to be the start of global budgets for health. Chris Burford >The leaders supported U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan's call at the >opening of the conference for a global AIDS "war chest" of between $5-10 >billion. Clinton has just called on the US to provide 1.5billion $ a y

RE: Re: Re: CIA & Nazi's update

2001-04-27 Thread michael pugliese
Best three sources on all this. Christopher Simpson, Russ Bellant from South End Press, Martin A. Lee, "The Beast Reawakens, " from Little Brown, 2000. Can't remember the title of the Simpson, published in early 90's, out of print here, think European edition is Grove & weidenfield Michael P

Re: Global AIDS "war chest"

2001-04-27 Thread Louis Proyect
Actually, nothing will stop the AIDS epidemic except total eradication of the capitalist system and the kind of aggressive public health system that exists in Cuba today. Even with the breakthough against imperialist drug company patent rights, AIDS medicine is far out of reach of the average Afri

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parents of young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:53 PM 4/27/01 -0700, you wrote: >The key is not whether you have bad tastes, but >whether you feel _guilty_ for having bad taste: of course! guilt makes the world go 'round. >Ah, the good old days. Jim, were you at Berkeley >when the DKs were starting out (circa 1977, I >think)? Yes, but

Chinese Robbers Get Death Sentence

2001-04-27 Thread Stephen E Philion
Thursday April 26, 5:27 PM Chinese Robbers Get Death Sentence BEIJING (AP) - Two men who robbed an American diplomat of $50 have been sentenced to death, officials said Thursday. Armed with knives, Li Guang and Mu Jiangqiao also stole a camera and a watch from a U.S. diplomat in the southweste

Re: Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?) was Re: philosophy of science

2001-04-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
Right, got me there, Ken. --jks > >How can you be so sloppy Justin? As you know there are two distinct types >of >cognitively meaningful statements according to logical >positivists/empiricists those you set out here and those which represent >propositions analytically true or false. Examples o

RE: Re: brad de long textbook

2001-04-27 Thread Max Sawicky
Brad, when is this puppy coming out? max >A book rep came to my office today telling me how good brad de long's text >book would be. Will it be polluted with AS/AD?

CIA bibliography

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.pdxnorml.org/CIA-BIB.html BLOWBACK - America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War Christopher Simpson Collier Books, New York Copyright (c) 1988 Weidenfield & Nicolson for you Europeans. Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Reagan Administration: The Role of Domestic

332 economists support Tobin type tax

2001-04-27 Thread Chris Burford
War on Want have mailed me back and pointed out that one of the ATTAC links is to the following site hosted by the CEPR. Listers may wish to browse through the names of those who have signed up to the following statement. While it may be fair comment to note the general tendency or political di

Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Ken Hanly
I agree with most of what Justin has to say. Selsam and Martel are astonishingly ignorant about logical positivism, so much so that I was always so angry when I read them I couldn't appreciate much of anything they might have to say even though I am strongly influenced by Marx. However I will mak

Re: CIA & Nazi's update

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
One more book cite then I will shut up on this but the book was so good! "Dreamer of the Day: Francis Parker Yockey and the Postwar Fascist International." (New York: Autonomedia, 1999). Give Kevin a holler, he is a great researcher and a damn fine writer too. Even on theorists like Carl Sc

Re: Re: CIA & Nazi's update

2001-04-27 Thread William S. Lear
On Friday, April 27, 2001 at 13:50:02 (-0700) michael pugliese writes: > > Best three sources on all this. Christopher Simpson, Russ >Bellant from South End Press, Martin A. Lee, "The Beast Reawakens, >" from Little Brown, 2000. Can't remember the title of the Simpson, >published in early 90's,

Re: CIA bibliography

2001-04-27 Thread William S. Lear
On Friday, April 27, 2001 at 14:28:40 (-0700) Michael Pugliese writes: >... >P.S. Another Chistopher Simpson (?) has good material on psychological >warfare and US Cold War policy. Published by Oxford Univ. Press. You may be thinking of *Science of Coercion: Communication Research and Psychologic

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: important news for parentsof young kids

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/7/gamson-j.html Class Clowns Joshua Gamson The Oblongs, the WB network's new animated series that premiered on April Fools' Day, opens with the sound of a flushing toilet. Chipper voices, who could be singing about the Flintstones or Scooby Doo, sing the show's

Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread ScottH9999
In a message dated 4/27/01 1:27:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Scott, > > You are right to reproach me for my caustic and rude tone, and your > responded better than I deserved, for which thanks, and I apologize directly > to you. We disagree on many things, how

Re: Re: Re: Positivism (What is it?)

2001-04-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
Scott, We do all sorts of carrying on here, including about philosophy. But I agree with you and Michael P that it is best done in a civil manner, although as you see I often fail in that respect. > >This is sort of what I was getting at; we are looking at positivism pretty >much from differe

Richard Gwyn on FTAA rhetoric...

2001-04-27 Thread Ken Hanly
The Toronto Star April 25, 2001 Quebec City: Paving way for battles on trade by Richard Gwyn Famously, the 18th-century British sage Samuel Johnson once described patriotism as "the last refuge of a scoundrel." To bring that aphorism up to date, it can now be observed, following last weeken

March for Justice in Cincinnati June 1-3

2001-04-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: March for Justice in Cincinnati June 1-3 >Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:09:06 EDT > >Dear Friends, > >At a meeting organized by the Black United Front and Citizens for a >Humane Economy held at the Mt. Zion United Method Church in >Cincinnati on April 25 and attend

Re: Re: Global AIDS "war chest"

2001-04-27 Thread Chris Burford
At 27/04/01 17:01 -0400, you wrote: >Actually, nothing will stop the AIDS epidemic except total eradication of >the capitalist system and the kind of aggressive public health system that >exists in Cuba today. This sounds like revolutionary catastrophism. It has got to get worse until there is a